Baccarat i ownit: Baccarat Lessons by Myrtlejones

I have read this through several times, I think now I understand the main parts: I understand how to gather columns 1 to 6. I found that quite easy and I think I understand what you mean by structure.

So column 7 I still cannot figure out how to draw.
When you say column 7 is the result of how many times they Match or Unmatch. I don't understand that.
Which column and structure are you referring to?

What do you mean by returning back to the centre pretty fast? Does this mean you only bet until the middle of the shoe, then wait for the next shoe?

Still confused about this you say: looking at column 2 and comparing to column 6, there are no complete matchups...Do you mean with M and U? Which ones?
Not sure what that means if to consider B,P or M, U?

When you say the only structure that beats us is a structure of 7? How? Does that happen every time?

Finally, why do you say not to play at a no commission table?
I am really passionate to learn this, and I hope I am half way there. Thanks again.

 

Myrtlejones, I have just finished recording a game. Much appreciate if you can check it when you have time. Thanks
BTW: Still confused about betting procedure. I understand betting second line of each structure in column 1. But how to use column 2 against column 6 not repeating, still a mystery to me. Is there a trigger to indicate M from U? Going to B or P? Cheers.

 

I re-read this thread and haven't got a single clue what's all about.... I wish someone could explain it in an easy way...

 

Bactz number 6 is wrong last 3 should be all Es now put the numbers in it is not explained the best but it is here look at it close

 

I think he said last week that he was going to do that very thing. Ma

Not going to happen.

 

Judge i will not be around here much more, i have put in a foundation for a successful system that really works but when you get called a retard and some posters shit on you it kind of gives you that feeling of why even bother, i came on here to put something that nobody has ever seen before, explaining it has been difficult and i truly never got to the finish line with what i wanted to state but that is ok, some here think i am some guy from another site and making all this shit up but that is so far from the truth ,I am going to make a UT video, i will call it the 30 day challenge 10 units every day for 30 days, right now i have a family member not doing so good so my time is at a minimum

 

Well myrtle I'm looking forward to your YT video...maybe you could post the link here later..

I believe some will appreciate your work, especially if they have success with your system...

 

I guess I did'nt read the post that busted your balls. I just saw some that mentioned they couldn't understand you method and was waiting for you to understand better.
The way to silence the doubters is to provide proof. Of course, with some on hear it doesn't matter, they will never be silenced.
I'm so thankful JAE didn't let doubters bother him. In fact, I believe he converted a few. I believe by staying the course, JAE gained a great deal of respect, even from the doubters. I believe he has given a gift to the forum but most will never see it or use it. They will be back tomorrow posting shit.
Thin skin folks don't belong in politics or gambling forums. I hope you will follow through on your youtube video and make it where most can understand.

Good luck,

 

Good work! That alone should really clear stuff up. A picture is worth a thousand words.

LOL Just put soxfan "the toddler" on ignore because he won't go away. He can't help himself. Have some empathy. He's just so upset that every one won't worship at the altar of Banker.

 

Judge, just for discussion sake. When someone post a bet selection or progression method, your common sense tells you the only way such findings were obtained is through past records or sample shoes. How extensive are there? Go through your records and look at the FIBONACCI hands which is 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,and 55. There is obviously a repeat with hand 1 therefore we just omit one 1. Bet all P on these 9 hands. HOW MANY SHOES ARE YOU GOING TO FIND P EXACTLY AT HAND 1,3,5,8,13,21,34 and 55? Can you call that an exploitation?
This is to show you why Jae is mostly successful but 2000 units bankroll? Would you do it?
Introducing a method that requires you not to give up till you lose a VERY BIG sum is of course going to work but is it feasible? Would you do it?

 

To Myrtlejones, can you please answer 3 simple questions about your game? All answers in units please.
1. How many units do you average per shoe?
2. How many units is your stop loss?
3. How many units is your highest bet?
And please no “it depends” answers. Every player knows their averages. thx in advance.

 

3 to 5 units per shoe
i am betting lines no stop loss in groups of 8 i have yet to lose 2 lines in a row, 4 bets per line,
groups of 7 is 3 bets per line i have lost 2 lines in a row then quit
10 units would be my largest bet

 

I haven’t read thru all your posts to understand how you determine bet selection (B or P) which is the most important part of any system. But nonetheless, more important to me are the 3 questions I asked you which allowed me to determine the true strength of your and any system. I don’t see how you are settling for only 3-5 units per shoe, you don’t have a stop loss, and yet you are willing to make 10 unit bets when necessary. This to me sounds like a recipe for disaster. Am I the only one on this forum questioning this? How is this sustainable? How do you come back after losing 2 shoes of 10 units each or 3 shoes in a row with a 30 unit loss? How many shoes must you play, just get back to even?

 

Ok, here is my take on it, the betting explanation. Now I am going out on a limb here. Oh, and just before I get into that; I just want to say Myrtlejones I am on your side so I hope you don't leave.

So when using column 2 against column 6 not repeating, using structure 8 in my example above:
We have MUU in column 2 and MUM in column 6 -
Therefore, bet that (from the middle element U) to become a M. Right? So in essence we bet that a Banker becomes a Player as seen in column 1.
Therefore as described, column 2 against column 6 is not repeating here.

I really hope you can give me a definitive answer for this post Myrtlejones, cause I really want to nail it!
One final question: why do you say not to play at a non commission table?
Thanks again.

 

This is my last post on this site so please no more questions,I played this shoe this morning and wanted to show the difference between shoe result and structure result, simple math ,if you go to the shoe result you will see there are 3 starts or singles,( i call them starts) that go past 4, now if you go to start 8 from shoe result you will see 7 players, this will come into play under structures 2 and 3, you will notice both structures do not go over 4, one can write a program for this, go to start 15, 7 bankers, this with come into play under structures 4 and 5, we have one start that goes over 4 but stays at 5, one can write a program for this also, back to shoe result, go to start 19, 5 bankers, this will come into play under structures 5 and 6, both are under 4, still under the same program, now if we do the math the shoe result has 22 starts, 3 starts over 4, this is right around 12%,13 %, my structure results has 25 starts , 1 start over 4 = 4%, now in the world of Baccarat( FACT NOT FICTION) 90% of the time starts will not go past 4, in the structure system it is less , the structure result can never be more then the shoe result, in this shoe i used groups of 8, i flip flop between groups of 7 and 8,groups of 8 have less columns only 5 i will not go into detail they just do, if you notice these structures you will see not one repeats, the structures are all different, when the numbers and letters are put in one can bet 4 times that 8 will not repeat, listen to what i am saying 4BETS INTO 8 SHOE RESULTS THAT IT WILL NOT REPEAT(groups of 7 need only 3 bets but will repeat more often)The columns break down and end up in column 5, this shoe had 10 wins10 loses,50%, i have never ever seen this go below 40% this was an easy 4 unit win,when i put in the base (groups of 7) i never got to the numbers because breaking it all down from start to finish takes a lot of explaining and math, i do not even look at this as gambling, i treat this like investing, the shoe math can not beat me,just betting $5 units using neg pro will make $100 to $200 per day, last week i was waiting for bac table online and nothing was new so i went to roulette table,now i do not play roulette just killing time so i took this structure system and i applied it to high low but was betting 2 dozen just $1 bets( neg pro) up after a loss down after 2 wins because of laying 2 to 1, i played for 3 hours never lost. To all the good people on this site may all your bets be winning ones and to the aholes well guess what I OWN IT, THE REAL DEAL

 

just noticed your post Bactz, no commission tables are brilliant from the casinos end, who ever thought this out is very smart, in order to beat this game bets must be raised at times, never seen a flat better win and been playing over 40 years,hitting your win at the time when commission comes in kills the upward betting i could show the math on this one but have to go just trust me never play no com

 

Yes, I would do it and I am going to do it.

 

If a person has any kind of discipline at all this should be no difference in playing this live or virtual off of the internet site or shoes that you might have gathered.

I've already looked and yes it's going to be very unlucky to lose 2,000 units before winning 2,000 units to break even. But it can happen and will to someone sometime.

But if you're going to do it, Judge, then put together the basic statistics including how many shoes are playable, net win per shoe on average, Max bet and Max drawdown.

 

Myrtlejones,

I wanted to reach out to you before you go. You have made mention of it, even though this is one marriage few divorce from. '
First, I appreciate the compliments, and the answer to your question is "not exactly". Which is bloody worthless.
I wanted to tell you that the intelligence of a person is not measured by the knowledge they possess. I'm sure a wiser man articulated it with more grace and clarity a thousand years ago. I'm sure a thousand people had been aware of it before anyone attempted to use words for its expression.

Neil Tyson Degrasse sad, and he may have been quoting someone else, " Intelligence isn't what you know, it is how much you can figure out with what you know." He then goes on to explain how some Greek guy proved the earth was round, and accurately estimated it's circumference. Measuring the length and angle of a shadow cast by a pole at noon on Summer solstice. And then did it again a year later at a different location many miles away, on the same day, with the same pole, at the same time.
Recorded the differences in his measurements, analyzed that tiny amount of information and proved it! It would be centuries before anyone had the tools to make a more accurate measurement.

Einstein is attributed to saying many things that he in fact did not say. One of them is, " If you cannot explain it so a five year old can understand it, then you don't really understand it yourself" This is something I believe he did/could have said. Widely recognized as the 'go to' representative of being about as smart as humanly possible. I would like to point out he didn't do the math to prove his Theory of Relativity. Another person, who was more mathematician than theoretical scientist, solved the math first (several were working on it) and gave the solution to Einstein without making a fuss over it. Real stand up guy in my opinion.
So I wanted to offer you a small apology for my reactions to your attempt to share your discovery. I often express myself in extremes, sometimes to take the sting out of it, sometimes because that's what it takes to reveal a better perspective. Look, I get it, I'm thinned skinned too, can fly off the handle with knee jerk reactions. People suck. I'm sure you aren't blind to your quick temper and foul tongue.
So I can hope you can find the humor and laugh at yourself and see what we see when I say, when asked. "What do you think of what this Myrtlejones?" my response was " I have no idea, half way through the first page it's clear he doesn't know either. It reads like the ravings of a lunatic. Dude needs to quit crushing up handfuls of random medications in the morning and snorting them on an empty stomach before he decides to explain the most compli-fucking-cated unorthodox approach to the game ever.
Dan Akroyd from Ghostbusters says it perhaps more eloquently, " This guy is either a certified genius, or an authentic wacko"
Now this may be a bit too late, it seems you have some people figuring it out. I'm going to work my way back to it. I tried random vs random:nothing. I tried random vs non random:nothing. I tried random married to non random filtered through random. Nothing. I got as creative as I could and all I got was another way to define the presence of the house edge. So I'm definitely interested.
Continuing my provocative approach, my intent is to be supportive/encouraging, not offensive, which is easier to express in person, so I gotta ask.....
Do you think of yourself as some raging moron? Just fucking it up through the world one disastrous day after another? Barely getting through the day with the mind of a kindergartner? And you figured out that which can't be figured out, and it's as simple as 2+2 and every nasty commenter is being intellectually disingenuous because they really understand everything? The what, why and how of it?

Or do you think you figured it out? Did you corner this thing and tatoo your fucking name on it? Do you look around and see the rest of us fucking it up through the world? Stumbling around like a bunch of drunk children? Pissing away money left and right while you quietly and humbly grind up a double handful of units? Right there close to the door, so you get home to your family as soon as you can. Because the casino is an asshole magnet.
Look, you just need to sit back on your words a bit. Interrupt any wall of text you type every 6 or 8 lines or so and try and contain a single thought inside that space. Make sure it says what you want and move on to the next block of text. Make sure it says what you want it to, re read the first paragraph and make sure you are headed in the same direction. It'll help organize your thoughts, help your readers understand your thoughts, and cut back on mistakes. The backspace key is the key I use the most. Unbelievable, I'm sure.
It will sure cut down on the amount of grief you receive. Regardless of whether or not people should suck or not, we do. Less grief is net positive result.
As for me, Jae wasn't too far off the mark. After 4 years of private school, the public system had nothing to offer. Of the 1500 kids in my school, on any given day I'd say 300 to 400 were 18,19 or 20. Over half of them could barely read or write, at least 10% could only recognize their name. The rest of us just fended for ourselves. Turned 18, pulled a stunt to get my diploma and left that state and everything in it.
Didn't get a whole lot of traction with that diploma as you could imagine, tested out some college credits, wasted time with an advanced speed electronics course. It just had no practical application. By then, there were other ways to make money, and different forms of education to provide proficiency in the pursuit of gainful occupation.
And now I'm like you, no Facebook, no Twitter, living a rather unsophisticated life, spending as much time with the woman as I can. Except I'm not forcing out surplus units on a reliable, consistent schedule like you are.
So remember, we are all just a bunch of five year olds. You gotta be the adult.
Sincerely,
Baccaritic

 

I read the first sentence in the last sentence of this diatribe I can't figure out why anyone would bother.