Baccarat i ownit: Baccarat Lessons by Myrtlejones

I thought fir a moment that was “war and peace” volume 2.....lol

 

It started out with

Myrtlejones,

Wasn't meant for you. In fact I know how difficult it is for you to read anything that doesn't grab your attention with the first sentence.

Believe me, I try to keep it direct and short when I'm talking to you.

Just some nice words for Myrtle

WHAT"S THE PROBLEM?

 

I'm sorry. Your sarcasm hints I've hit a sensitive spot. Being unnecessarily annoyed by superfluous commentary is a shortcoming of mine. I'll try to do better.

 

Shame
Over reacted.
My fault.
One of the few I respect. It stung a little bit. Heart/sleeve.
Succinct is a struggle. I do try.
Superfluous a favorite word (oh the irony)
My apologies,
Baccaritic

 

That’s a pretty bold statement to make. Considering you’re making only 3-5 units per shoe, with a stop loss of -10 units a shoe, there is a lot you can learn from many. There are players averaging 15+ units a shoe, flat betting with a stop loss of -4.

 

Hmm, cats are averaging 15 units nets profits per shoe? That sort of profit would require cats to buck up against the proposition with a strikes rate near 80% on a bets flat basis. So I gather that these cats with the 80% strikes rate are guesser, trender, go with the flows reads the shoe type. An a 4- units stops loss too, neat, hey hey!!!!

 

on some shoes it is 80, but hit rate generally hovers around 65-72, and because there is a direct correlation between hit rate and player advantage (PA), the PA is usually above 38%. Now compare that with BJ players who are on occasion betting upwards of 15 units per hand, just to have a 2% PA. Let alone the risk of being barred. Why bother with BJ, when you have Baccarat.

 

Ok just thought i would take a look and see what was going on , had 10 seconds of spare time,( bold statement)???? PLAYERS ARE AVERAGING 15+ UNITS A SHOE FLAT BETTING LOL LOL LOL you are a moron, wow go to the beach and smoke some of your home grown garbage because DUDE you have no substance in your statement, i do not bet into any shoe until i have seen 2 structures that is 14 shoe results, i wait for the next 2 results then bet 123 per line then next structure, you see you are not on my level or any level of what it takes to win at this game,in groups of 7 there will be 10 lines, that is 70 shoe results, i will bet 123 into each line, now if you run the whole shoe there should be 10 lines but the first 2 we do not bet that brings it down to to 8 lines, 8x3 =24 98% of the betting i am up 1 to5 units in the middle of any shoe, the betting is set up to spread out the shoe so there is 0 chance of ruin, most shoes are 8 to 12 bets, hard to get on that chase to hell, 15 UNITS FLAT BETTING LOL LOL LOL, it is mathematically impossible to flat bet and make 15 units a shoe you are a MORON

 

Query, are you or were you a member of BTC forum, hey hey?

 

I knew you wouldn’t believe me but I expected your exact reply. You have been playing and losing for so long that no matter what anybody says, you are so set in your ways that you think it’s impossible. Usually, when

It's OK MJ,I knew you would react and reply exactly as you did. I expected it. You see, you have been playing so long (40 years) and like most players, you've been losing most of that time and because you are so set in the way you play and, (which is the only way you know HOW to play, I don't blame you for not knowing otherwise, you haven't been taught by an expert) that you refuse to believe that 15+ units flat betting is achievable. (I won't even mention the shoes that we get 20+ units....LOL). It's not a system, because systems have a nemesis which can destroy you. This is an "approach" to the game. It's called following the shoe "FTS". It takes years to learn and you probably will never be able to learn it unless someone showed you what to look for. All the bets we make have a hit rate of 60% +, even 70% on some sequences. We bet about 30% of the shoe. Stop loss is -4, oh and let me mention also that we DO wait about 12-15 hands before the first bet AND we rarely go negative before we go positive.
Accept the fact that there are only 2 ways to win. Either your hit rate in over 60%, which would allow you to win merely by flat betting, or if you hit rate sucks and is below or at 50%, then you must resort to a negative progression to make a profit. These are the only 2 ways to win in baccarat.

 

Of course, but BTC is not what it used to be. The great players all left.

 

Thanks, I'm in complete and utter awe at the baccarats prowess of some of you cats. It's almost supernatural for the read the shoe types to capture 80% strikes rate when incorporating players wagers into their style. Serious baccarats voodoo that being able to make players pop at better than 50%. I did make a very good fulls time income for bit over 12 year, mainly because the progression I used would have allowed me to capture profit had I won just 16.666666% of my placed wager. I too was once a shoe reader, trender, etc. but I recovered my sanity, hey hey.

 

I could easily play a progression, without much risk if I wanted to. But there is no need to. Sometimes I do play a 1,2 loop, never betting the 2 until I win the 1. Although I prefer to flatbet with a higher unit size.

 

I’m in awe as well. Just imagine winning 20+ units flat betting only 30% of a shoe. The shoes I play go about 60-70 hands, so 20 units in 30% if that would most likely be a win every hand you play. That’s incredible!

 

Hey Myrtle when you said you were not going to reveal because someone upset you is when I lost interest in this thread. Since then I see you have added additional info. Question, is all that I need to learn your method on this and Sputniks threads?

 

Hi Bactz,

Have you been using this regularly at the table since? Thanks!

 

Hi Terry,
No. I have since taken a long break from playing baccarat. I would have to travel into the city to play. Only doing research since then, as my local club only has electronic roulette machines. Yeah.

 

Bactz:

How kind of you to reply promptly to my question! Thank you!

May I ask that you do a step by step explanation how to play this strategy? I am sorry for the lack of understanding. I really like how the author created his betting opportunities by assigning the EOO, EEE, Px, MUM, etc. and I really like to play this strategy if I know how.

Best regards,
Terry

 

You know in all honesty I don't fully understand this method completely. At the time when Myrtlejones was explaining and giving directions, I studied up on it, and somehow I managed to figure out parts of it.
(But it did take me a long while)

But even so, I don't quite get the main principle of how it applies to betting/strategy.
For me if my confidence is not assured, (for whatever reasons) then I would choose not to engage in betting. That is how I still feel about it today!

Maybe I could offer the directions better regarding each step. But frankly, I don't see how that would be of benefit to you (as well as other readers.)
Probably the best person to ask would be the one who created the thread. If I remember correctly, he left this thread unresolved.

Ever since, my confidence levels playing any kind of casino game has not been the best.
I do fear losing, and if anything I do play with utmost caution!!! It is a battle.

If I am very comfortable with something eg: a method or strategy and I am 99% confident I can win most of the time I play, then yes I will proceed to play (still being cautious.)
Unfortunately Terry, baccarat is not my great strength right now.
I spend a lot of time studying and testing different roulette methods. And I know many people will say: they will all win at times, and they will also all lose at times. Very true...

If I can possibly assist you with another method I found online, (hit and run) then please let me know. This process of researching and testing can be time consuming as well. Wish you well. Thanks.

 

Bactz:

My sincere thank you again for your reply. And I understand your sentiment. Good luck to you, too!