Baccarat i ownit: Baccarat Lessons by Myrtlejones

You have to be on your toes to keep up with it in play that's for sure. I simplified it, for me anyway, by replacing the M's with 1's and U's with 2's. So I just ask myself do I need a 1 (same) or 2 (opp) to create a win and bet accordingly. I like this and I thank you kind sir.

 

Nice adaptation, this is a worthy thread and shows that you can make money following a structured guideline, thanks Myrtle

 

There is obviously different variations you can play out of this structure. Those of you confused by this photo of his play, as I was, pay no attention to it in relation to trying to understand how he is saying it's played. He was just rolling a continuous 6/7 count playing or showing how the O/E was stacking. Meaning his hand 7 was also the first hand of his next 7 in this sample. That's not how he explains it to be played out. It was/is confusing if you didn't figure it out.

 

Netto sorry that was a very bad example, i was trying to get a point across and now that i went back to reread was and is confusing, let me try again (first structure is the base it will include 5 columns, second structure will be your first betting structure second line,column 2 matches up with column 4 giving you result for column 5 just like the 8 pages i posted, now you match up the above result in column 5 to get column 6 when you do this you are betting the opposite of column 2

 

I'm quite certain I understand your tagging and charting structure but just to be sure that I am, in this latest example the 7th hand of each structure is not charted but we can deduce what it was by the 6th O/E tag of collumn 3? I'm just trying to clarify that you didn't 0/E tag this on a continuing rolling 7.
As for what collumn you're betting FOR in the present structure to be AGAINST what collumn and from which structure is still being made unclear by you.
I understand the bet placement is at 4th O\E tag, collumn 4(hand 5 of the 7) and that bet is to get a desired result FOR which collumn/structure AGAINST which collumn/structure?

 

Hi, Waiting for ur next lesson

 

yes TLF you only chart the first 6 player bankers and the last 6 E Os,. the Es and Os will always get the full chart but the last player banker does not, you chart first 6 of 7, now just to make it clear i am going in to make 3 units most the time (hit and run) sometimes i use row 2 and bet against a repeat in column 6 but the main column to bet against a no repeat is the result of column 6, if some one would post the results as it comes out of the shoe i will run through it and explain it down to the last detail

 

Hmm, I wonder if the myrtle-jones is relations to the garnabby-jones, hey hey????

 

You bet against a repeat of column 6.
Column 6 can have 8 possible results.
So, normally there would be a 1 in 8 chance that it would repeat and lose.
How your system with columns can change that.

I look forward to next example.
Here is a shoe you can use:
BBBBPBBBPPPPPPPBBPBBTBPPBBBBPBPTPPBBBBPPBBPBBPPPTPPBBBPBPTTPPBBBPBBPTPPPBTPBBB

 

Netto this is the shoe you posted,as you can see page 1 takes shoe results and are put into groups of 7 then we start filling the columns,
the first 6 banker players are put into column 1(the seventh result will be left out) the Es and Os are entered but will always be one step behind column 1, match up column 2 with column 4 to get column 5,
Second result in column 2 and 4 goes to column 5 now we match up the result in column 5 to the result above it in column 5 getting a sixth column, we are betting that that result will not repeat in column 6, column 7 is the result of how many times they matched or unmatched,if you played every bet in this shoe you would of had 11 wins and 10 losses. Depending on how you decide to bet this is up to you, i will set a few rules to follow or how i play this, you can do what ever you want with this but i suggest taking as many shoes as you can and run through them so you can see the results,
1) disregard ties
2) never play at a no commission table
3)if you are betting to make a certain amount of units and getting out then you can also use column 2 against column 6 not repeating, i will stay with column 6 until i get some resistance, if you look at column 2 and compare to column 6 there are no complete match ups
4)now if you are going to bet every play in column 6 using neg pro or a slow progression then you must stay at the same table

, this will hit at around 50% after playing many shoes, i find it hard to get pass 5 shoes and not be up at some point, you can have a shoe with some drift but never really that bad and if you stay with it you will return back to the center pretty fast

 

Hi, Myrtle thanks for the explanation
Just a few questions
1) As u mentioned about playing this system for 2 years, so which neg progression u have been using, I mean to say, we can start of with that, & make tweaks if required at a later stage
2) To summarize we are playing against column 6, not repeating in order to deduce results of P/B, from required M_U of column 6, we have to go to column,5 & to get required M_U of column 5 we then deduce results in Column 4 we go to ( 5th, 6th, & 7th) hands in column 3( So we are betting 5th, 6th, &7th hands ( if need be)of each group of 7 P/B outcomes
I want to ask, in order to do all this Will 10 seconds be enough( online casino)?
Have I interpreted ur system correct?
Correct me where wrong, thanks

 

Rav you will only be betting the bottom line of each structure in column #1, column #2 and column #4 go side to side, column# 5 matches up with what is above in that column and also column 6. I think you have it but takes time to write and compare matches in 10 seconds, please go through many shoes until you understand completely, when you do it will flow like water, i mix my game up depending on how much time i want to spend playing, depending on how many ties come out of the shoe you will get between 6 to 8 lines, Rav Evolution Gaming has a control squeeze the one with the glass you can peel the cards up and see the result,($1to $10,000) it gives you around 20 seconds between hands, this should give you enough time to do your match ups and make a wager, when you have time plan on sitting for 5 or 6 shoes that you can play consecutively, bet every hand using a slow progression to get the hang of it, something like 11122345 what ever you want. you will rarely see drifts of 6 or more, yes it does happen but not often, this system was designed to control drift ,disrupt patterns, 7 results 3 bets, reset

 

Hi, thanks, Yes I want to confirm, about what u are using presently, I will start with, that & modify if need be, Secondly, According to me, if we play 1,2,3 & reset & if we bust one line I.e 3 losses in a row, we will be -6 units down, which will be difficult to recoup in one shoe, & I have seen u give examples & the shoe u played sent by Netto it is common to go till 3rd step

 

Hi, Myrtle,hope u must have enjoyed the weekend, , BTW I was waiting for the reply of my last post,so I can start practicing/ playing small units to get a feel of ur system, Secondly the shoe u played which Netto, posted (10 losses &11 wins) Can u kindly play using 11122345 prog, ( I suppose in this case 7;results 3 bets & reset won't apply) & that will clear the matter, & kindly tell which progression are u using right now, thanks

 

Hi, Waiting for ur reply,regarding playing shoe with progression, 11122345, or the one u are incorporating right now,thanks

 

Waiting for reply

 

Here is an Excel program that I made to explore the different results of the system presented in this thread.
I had 600 real shoes to test it (this file is included here)
It does not take into account the money management, but shows the Win and Lose of the three bets that can be made in a structure of 7
(the green area is where these bets are).
Here it is if we bet against the repetition of column 6.

In the blue zone. you can copy and paste all one shoe at once or enter one hand at a time (you must press Enter to validate your entry)

 

Hi, Netto thanks for the testing I will open the files ASAP( My laptop is under repair)BTW just 2 questions 1) What is win/ loss ratio 2) How much is the drift, meaning average Losses in a row

 

Rav i can not tell you how to bet you must do some home work and figure this out yourself, test 100 shoes check results, go to column 7
and take a close look, there is something very interesting that happens, if you look close enough you will notice what it is, i am not saying it is the (Holy Grail) but the closest thing i have seen to it, there is a 1 unit profit that will hit 99 out of 100 shoes with in those 6 lines.

 

Hi, thanks, nice to hear u, u mentioned "there is a 1 unit profit than that will hit 99 out of 100 shoes" Just clarify whether
1) Flat betting all 3 bets per line
OR
2) 1,2,3 & then reset ( neg progression)
The other MM, I will work on, & will inform u, when 1 have done some home work on it