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Baccarat i ownit: Baccarat Lessons by Myrtlejones

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Myrtlejones, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. Myrtlejones

    Myrtlejones Active Member

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    Rav flat betting is not a way to profits and any one who tells you that is a loser, flat betting for information is another area which can be interesting do what i said then get back
     
  2. Ravinderchawla

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    Thanks, Myrtle Bro, As u suggested, I will surely test 100 shoes, no problem, but to get 1 unit profit 99% within 6 lines, of the shoe, What MM should I incorporate & then I will try to improvise it.to get better results, This is a project I will seriously work on & keep u updated
     
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    WOW any body doing this program, just wanting some feed back, more to come???
     
  4. netto

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    I know how to apply O's and E's mechanically, but I don't really know what they represent.
    They have a big part in the system and in the shoes as you said in lesson #2:

    "The results of every Baccarat shoe is that every start has more odd numbers then even or the final result will be more odd then even
    THIS IS A ABSOLUTE FACT"

    Can you explain more, please?
     
  5. Tiger68

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    Can u play this shoe Myrtle? I busted 3 in a row. Maybe I make a mistake. thanks ABD0831A-1E45-40AD-86B3-CACB987763F6.jpeg
     
  6. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, I have started testing live shoes, will update u in a day or two, BTW, " What do u mean by start of shoe has more odd numbers than even & final results are also more odd than even.
     
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    Tiger here is your shoe, column 7 results are 10 wins 8 loses
     

  8. twibble

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    BPBBPBB bpb ooe
    bpb mmm eoe umm umm
    BBPBBPP bbp eeo
    bbb mmu eoo mum muu uuu
    BBPP bbp eeo
    p m

    this is where i am supposed to bet but on what? if i bet banker i win player i lose but it takes a while to figure it out?
     
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    ?
     
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    Myrtlejones, in the example of Tiger's shoe, I saw these errors:

    LINE 5 COLUNM 6:
    should be
    UMM

    LINE 7 COLUNM 3:
    should be
    EEO
    OEE

    In the end, should be 9 wins 9 loses
     
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    Yes Netto made mistake final result should read 9wins 9 loses, my mistake early morning before coffee ,i will repost shoe in corrected form
     
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    Netto not hard to understand count each line when next change comes count again until next change always more odd numbers but when you use the Os and Es and carry the last result into the next change it evens the odd and even count
     
  13. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Myrtle, I plan to test 5 shoes daily Yesterday I tested 4 shoes on Evolution, gaming,(Control Squeeze) , here are the results
    Shoe#1. No bust
    Shoe#2. 1 bust
    Shoe #3. No bust
    Shoe #4. 2 busts
    #bust is 3 losses in a line/row
    Prog played 1,2,3 & reset
    BTW, Nettos shoe also had 1 bust
    Shoe #4 results are as follows, kindly check, & confirm the results, so I can do further testing, I have arranged in groups of 7,outcomes of P/B
    1) P P P P B P P
    2) P B P B B B P
    3) P P P P B P P. L L L Bust
    4) B P P B B B P. W L W
    5) B B B P P B P. W W L
    6) B B P P B P B L W W
    7) B B P P B P P. L L L. Bust
    Then I stopped.didn't play the 8th line
     
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    Rav, I think line 7 of your test would be LWL.

    I also wanted to test.
    So for my test:
    I used the 600 shoes I already posted earlier.
    The same progression as you: 1,2,3 & then reset (neg progression).
    I decided to only play the first 8 lines (only lines 3 to 8 are bet)

    If lines 3 to 8 are to be played without restriction:

    465 bust, distributed as follows:
    253 shoes with 0 bust
    245 shoes with 1 bust
    88 shoes with 2 bust
    12 shoes with 3 bust
    2 shoes with 4 bust

    Final result = -77 units
    Commission = -126.35 units

    Then I tried to stop at +3 profit units.
    Final result = +47
    Commission = -94.45
    322 bust

    Then stop at +3 OR at the first bust:
    Final result = -9
    Commission = -64.15
    222 bust

    So I haven't yet found the trigger or the winning money management. I keep searching.
     
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    Thanks for posting the results of your detailed simulations.

    So far,
    1) I have not seen any system that beats a negative expectation game with flat bets, and
    2) If you can not beat with flat bets no progression positive or negative can make it winning.
     
  16. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Netto, Yes u are correct Results of , Line 7 should be L W L, Here are few questions, I want to ask for solution of appropriate MM,
    1) 600 Live shoes u tested are recent ones from B&M or online Casinos
    2)OUT OF TOTAL SHOES WITH ( 2,3,&4) BUSTS HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE BUSTS U HAD I.e 2 line busts in a row
     
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    I'm testing a style strictly betting flat and so far show a profit of +3169.3 units nets profits buckin up against 3109 tested shoe. I also test a style strictly betting bankers only with a modify star style and it show a nets profits of about 5.5 units per shoe buckin up against over 3700 tested shoe. And, I'm testing a strict anti-streaks styke betting against player streaks only and so far show a nets profits of a bit better than 3 units per buckin up against over 22, 000 tested shoe. So, yer o for two with yer statement, hey hey.
     
  18. netto

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    Rav,

    1) Live decisions B&M not recent
    2) 48 shoes out of 102

    it looks like the bust count is just a little over the average of 1 in every 8 decisions in this test.
    This makes recovery very difficult.
     
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    Thanks for the excel sheet that you made. May i know where can i look what bet selection will i bet?
     
  20. Ravinderchawla

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    Yes, I also don't see any edge in this system, even after doing so much charting, & deducing results, so much time consuming, it is showing neg results, in all variations, I doubt how Myrtle claimed to have played 2000 shoes, & not damaged his bankroll,
     

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