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TurboGenius I take my hat off to Turbo

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, May 3, 2022.

  1. Matt Apollo 88

    Matt Apollo 88 New Member

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    That’s fantastic!

    what I can see is that the average for a 5th to appear is roughly the 99% max for us to have seen at least 1 appear.

    example

    99% max for x2 = 23
    99% max for x3 = 45
    99% max for x4 = 70
    99% max for x5 = 96
    99% max for x6 = 124
    99% max for x7 = 154

    These are great to know. When we’re at a point within a game and say we’re at spin 60 and no number has hit for 4th time yet. (We could then know with huge confidence that a x4 hitter is about to drop)
    Obviously these opportunities don’t happen every session and obviously picking the correct numbers from the many x3 hitters is not going to guarantee a winner. But definitely really nice stats.

    basically 10 spins below those max points above is definitely a good time to jump in with either extra chips or extra numbers.

    thanks
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The averages still fall short of the required hit rate needed to win in the long term.
     
  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    The only fool in this thread is you doc. Go find your wobbley wheel.
    At RF you posted those star burst spins, 10'330.
    We can look at the averages for non-hit or repeats.
    Those 10'330 spins showed non-hits average to hit 9-7-5-3 at 40 spins, That's what LOTT shows at 37. But the 24 @ 40th is perfect.
    Now look from otherside, repeats would be 1-3-5-7.
    It happens on R-sim, it even shows on R org that you champion.
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    See the time stamp fool. 30/30
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Even thou repeats are slow; look at the #3
    At 30 spins its +0 everything is on track.
    but look at spins 51-60; #3
    Doc as you don't have a clue
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    These belong to PLOLP, I’m sure he won’t mind me using these 61 spins. Took 7 pages to find 60 spins, in this case 61. Look at the repeat average ends like it does more often than not.
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    This is for the fool/joker; not the riddler. Matches 4/13 from 10 positions and 20 positions. Look at the #23 perfect. What is the pink showing? Do you get it. Does this help? The chief said I only had 11 numbers to choose from, not 37. It’s do you drop, or?
     
  6. Matt Apollo 88

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    You think there anything in playing only numbers that are in top 5 on 3 occasions.

    like your example there was only 5 numbers that would qualify by getting 3 points (a point for each time it was in top 5)


    Just currently getting a session full stats. Will post full table complete soon!
     

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  7. Naughty but nice

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    10%
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    In above reply, what are the PINK? do you drop or what?
     

  8. Matt Apollo 88

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    I just put that row there in pink for me to write notes throughout the process. Atm I’ll probably just write numbers that get to 3 points
     
  9. Naughty but nice

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    No Matt, reply 105
     
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    19-17-35

    17-8-16

    2-16

    16

    1x's 19-17-35 3 to play.
    2x's 17-8-16 some might say 5 to choose or play.
    3x's 2-16 some might say 6 to choose or play.
    4x's 16 so was you using 2-16 or the 6 #'s
     
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    Here's the spins.
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  12. Matt Apollo 88

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    Just finished a full complete top 5 stats to the x10 with notes of any number that got 3 points by being in top 5 on 3 occasions.

    obviously this doesn't mean anything if we carnt profit on the majority of sessions. However in my opinion it’s really good to learn and gain knowledge of how things pan out, hoping that in the long run we can narrow those leading horses right down and therefore profit in most sessions.
    Thanks
     

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    Yes Matt, just sticking a stream of numbers in RX, doesn't cut it. Better to use R-sim and get the feel of the stream.
    See how after 20 spins, on occassions where only have 1 or even 2 repeats.
     
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  14. Matt Apollo 88

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    Yes I think the more of those tables of top 5 to x10 I get the more consistent my bet selection will be. Once I have a good feel for things I’ll play some sessions all the way to x10 top 5. Flatbet at first and see how my selections go.
     

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    Think this had 23 1x before a repeat.
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    Only lap 4.
    Ka2; you work it out.
    Target was Dens 100 units.
    For some 9 horses would be to0 many.

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    Karl a2
    See repeats are fast, unlike the other game.
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    But like the other game I started after spin 3 and some would say "I didn't lose any as i didn't bet them.
    So, what; is it not rain drops?
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    When you have done another million tests, let everyone know it loses.
     
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    Comment Turbo.
    To anyone who tests this and wants to post :
    "I bet the top 3 numbers at all times and it lost !!" - please do a little bit of thinking first.

    Playing just the lead number, or playing all 3 of the top 3 numbers all the time WILL not work.
    You're going to figure out how to do it though and then you can either keep it to yourself or not.
    If you need to use a negative progression, or you're betting all 3 every spin - you are doing it wrong.
    I just wanted to throw that in because I already see a post coming with the quote I used above.
    Make predictions and select your numbers properly.

    Is the above comment contradictory. Reason.

    Looking at the 1x you have 27-18-7. Okay these 3 #'s have not matched.
    So, you have 6 #'s, 27-18-7; 20-1-10.
    Now those 1x plus 2x. Look at 3x; 10-1-18. 2 matches from the 2x but the 18 is from the 1x. You could have all 3.
    If you bet the 6 #'s you have 2, in the 4x.
    You'll have 7 #'s now. And the 5x shows you get 2.
    Now this is where; is it contradictory betting all top 3, that stands at 8 #'s.
    6x-7x-8x-9x are the same 3 numbers from the group of 8.

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    The above is betting the top3 as the laps pass; so the actual top 3 on the lap could change. The top 3 has 9#'s to choose from in 56 spins.
    Matches n/a 0-0-1-1-1 from that second 0 we only have the leader and from the chart unless you're THICK it's #13.
    So you tell me is it wrong betting the top3 going from 1x to 20x.
     
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    This is betting similar to the 56 spins. At spin 37 Denzies +100 units made. Should have stopped. But with 10'000 units pressed on.
    So spin 243 nearly back to the high at 196. Now i needed blinkers on, as I got distracted by the 3x only had 4 #'s to find. I added these 4 to the bet. Big mistake. Got back up and then straight back down, spin 347.
    Well hearing to myself to many numbers. Went back to like in the 56 spin game and a new high of 12,121
    So using just top 3 was it wrong.
     
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    Spin 27, #28 is 4x and makes Denzies +100.
    See enough was made, is there a need too carry on?
    Just Playing top 3

    KA2 will have tested this a million times and will say it fails.
     

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