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Roulette Is anyone beating this game consistently?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rinad, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. karumba

    karumba Active Member

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    you don't think, JA, that there are some long term winning gamblers?
     
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  2. Jerry Adams

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    Mathematics tells us there's no such thing, no. It is unfortunate for our minds, but that's what it is. On the bright side there's short streaks of luck (I can feel the adrenaline already) or exploitable bugs (rarely, but I've seen a few).
     
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  3. gizmotron

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    That's OK. I'm glad you confessed to being blind. It's not "fun," it's a war against your own human nature. Something that you appear to have failed at. I hope you understand that you are projecting. I see you as a blind person telling sighted people what is what. I use to be blind. It takes a person much like you describe, a degenerate gambler, to either give up or progress. You can't see the way to progress. Which brings us to this wonderful moment. Do you really think that your experience, vast so that it is, is worth the trouble to tell us off for not knowing as much as you do?
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    mathZombie! gads, someone call general casting for a costume change. Our boy has ripped his Spandex suit and cape.
     
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  5. Jerry Adams

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    Sorry, I put too much passion into it. I can see how my wording would offend some people, but that was far from my intention. But maybe there's a place and a need for posts like that as well. For what it's worth, sorry.
     
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  6. karumba

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    i posted recently on the bj forum: "is the math sown up?" can you tell me what you think of the Wellbush Paradox?
     
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  7. gizmotron

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    You are fully entitled to your opinion and your beliefs. There is no need to apologize. People are very open here and say what they mean.

    This is what I mean. I see you as a person that does not know how to specifically target good streaks in a session. I can only assume that having a strategy for that is for the time being an impossibility for you. Perhaps someday you will find out. My hopes are for some experts to find out once it is too late. I do that out of the kindness of my heart. It's lessons in life like that that will build character.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    no. Does that make me a dumbshit?
     
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  9. Jerry Adams

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    Thank you for your kind words! Time will tell, maybe I will...
     
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  10. karumba

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    yes! no seriously, i doubt it. by the sounds of it, you've probably got some useful grey matter being applied to a roulette strategy. just thought you may have an opinion about that paradox. but no sweat if you don't
     
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  11. karumba

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    most gambling forum posters think as you do. it's interesting to hear though, from a possible few who've done the, arguably, impossible.
     
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    I might have found it. So What is your point?

     
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  13. karumba

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    ah, from WOV. Correct. no point. i'm just asking a few people to get a take on the concept. i think it's interesting. i haven't seen anyone counter Wellbush with anything that scuttles his argument!
     
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    Let me elaborate as I have many times in the past. You can lose all the number of spins that you should in a session based on simple arithmetic, even more so. And you can still walk away a winner more times than arithmetic says you should. This is done by betting big when you are doing good and betting small when you are not. Of course that implies that you can be aware of the difference. Many math experts say that you can't know when a win streak is happening. But I remind them that the pit boss never misses the moment. I guess those pit bosses just don't know enough arithmetic.
     
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    if you have anything to say, gizmo, about the WB Paradox, by all means.

    other than that though, i think you've recently stated you make a small fortune by beating the casinos, correct? if that's correct, how do you stop them from backing you off?
     
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    ah, there's a guy call MDawg on a few forums who says he does what you're suggesting. he presses into streaks and i think that's where he makes his money, using positive progression on those winning streaks. it's interesting you're also saying the same thing. he, apparently, doesn't miss those streaks much. he can usually tell when they're happening!
     
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    Let me tell you another that the mathZombies have run away from and all that is left is crickets. "Math will never tell you when a trend or pattern will start, how long it will last, and when it will end." Now transpose "trend or pattern" for win streak.

    My point is that trends and patterns never always work. But when they are working, a win streak is also working if you use them to target win streaks. I can look at several different locations in my live playing charts and see trends and patterns in a working state. If I bet on them, and if they continue, then these patterns and trends indicate win streaks, as long as the conditions continue. And there is another deeper layer than all that. I've labeled that deeper layer "the effectiveness states." Because all trends also exist in a state of not working, losing streak if your were to use them for bet selections, the effectiveness states become the defining factor in the strategy. Without that layer of information it might as well be blind guessing.

    I never get a response for this from the mathZombies other than I'm claiming a magical agility to predict the future.

    So I can relate to math oriented gambling experts running sacred like chickens.
     
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    nope. I have not been to one but once in the past 2 years. Covid-19 has me waiting. Also I'm advocating to just get what you need. People kill off most if not all of their progress in hopes that more money will change and improve their lives. That's a lie that people unwittingly tell themselves. $50 to $100 per visit is far more than enough.
     
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    Close but not it. I say bet the minimum that the casino allows when it is in a chaotic or downward phase. Bet big only when your charted guesses begin to streak in your favor. Always make a guess each bet. Just don't fund any bad guesses that are streaking bad. It's foolish to try to parlay or use a positive progression in hopes of several wins in a row. Even John Patrick's "Up & Pull requires more than one win at the right time. Just take a few wins, like three net wins, and leave. You can become a millionaire in a few years if you just beat the casino in the aggregate.
     
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  20. karumba

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    that's very interesting gizmo. my brain has just about expired, as i live in oz and it's now 12.05am. nevertheless, you'll probably hear more from me in due course. BTW, i am Wellbush! just got a different ID here
     
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