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Roulette Is anyone beating this game consistently?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rinad, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    All I here about WoV forums is that they are the origin of the mathNazi's. That's OK, I want them to fail. I have been defending the notion of the "effectiveness states" since 2006 at Gambler's Glen forums. Imagine mathNazi's finally accepting my agreement that trends can't predict the future. That left them with nothing to go on. So they went silent. It's just that the same lame conclusion spawns a new generation about every ten years. I like what one person said here a few years ago. New gamblers try progressions first, then not well thought out money management, then give up and declare that the all encumbrancing math advantage rules all eventual outcomes. They failed so they become obnoxious mathNazi's or even better mathZombies.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have experienced thousands of them and not once has the pit boss missed them either. They come over and stand a stare for a while. It's their job to watch for such things.
     
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  3. karumba

    karumba Active Member

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    the thing i don't get is, why sit on a gambling forum if you believe you're gonna lose? aint that the most boring state? i mean, what's to like about confirming with everyone else that gambling's a mug's game? if i thought that, i wouldn't waste my time on a gambling forum‍
     
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  4. karumba

    karumba Active Member

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    i'm trialling negative progression strategies. hence the Wellbush Paradox. i haven't come away a winner from my local b & m casino after about 4 or 5 tries, but i'm still hopeful. i'll probably keep trying till i don't think there's any more point. i haven't reached that point yet.
     
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  5. karumba

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    i suppose if you're only hanging around for $100, they probably don't give you a second thought. a $100 a day though, is nothing to sneeze at
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes, that's the funny part. My theory is Spandex. The people owe it others to not make the mistakes that they have made and paid for. So they set out to save the world with a cape and a shinning suit of plastic. They get paid in thank you comments. Thank you for saving me from a fate worse than death. See how nice that is. It's actually better than the money I never got in the first place.
     
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  7. Jerry Adams

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    Now I get it with mathZombies... Where does the ability to tell winning streaks come from? So mathematicians show it's not possible, but if you are winning, you clearly know something they don't... There's a Fields medal to be won ;)
     
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  8. Jerry Adams

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    Yeah, I thought there was something else here, but this founding member is clearly deluded... I am a mathNazi, so here it is: MATH + BUGS WORKS, nothing else does ;-).

    You will hear from me, people: I leave you with this piece of awesomeness

    A software revolution is coming.
     
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  9. karumba

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    now you may get a reply from gizmo that my brain is currently going to have trouble staying with. if that's the case, i'll enter the discussion tomorrow. for now, i'm only capable of light discussion
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My Reading Randomness thread here is all bout winning. I spent almost 27 years getting it wrong. In just about every gambling session in that period, typically 4 to 8 hours long per session, I would experience one or two massive win streaks. I used them to dig my way out of deep holes in my bankroll. I needed to find a way to approach the entire gambling session differently. I was almost done when someone here posted a video about trading stocks like a casino. I learned then that going after two or more huge win streaks was a suckers game. At least it was for me regarding basic human nature, greed, self esteem, personal worth, new cars, etc... You might say that at that moment I went to the mountain top and heard from the guru. Yes, it's "life is a bowl of cherries."

    $100 per session is all about knowing what I want from gambling. I don't hunt the huge win streaks anymore. I also don't dig deep holes in my bankroll anymore. I usually just wait till a good enough patch forms up and then proceed to take it down. I also amuse myself by attempting to discover the stages that the other players are at in their gambling acumen. My biggest concern is where to get my next free meal with comp points after this gathering process is over. Like how hot can I stand the next dozen boffola hot wings.
     
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  11. karumba

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    did you ever have a problem gizmo, with casinos backing you off?
     
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  12. gizmotron

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    Nope, that's every four years and only goes to the guy that came up with something that has always been the truth but never explained before using math.

    The argument was started long ago in the 18th century by a mathematician named Bayes. Bayes' theorem or Bayes inference vs absolutism. All Reading Randomness sets out to do is to validate a version of awareness that is "based on prior knowledge of conditions that might be related to the event." That situational awareness can be based on "coincidental change" a reference to "variable change" used in counting cards in Blackjack. Coincidental Change is validated when enough gamblers go batshit crazy and storm the ramparts of casinos all over the world. Dream on. At that point mathZombies can open up their sandwiches and take a big bite.
     
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  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sort of. What started me down this road was that event. They didn't back me off but they interrupted my play to get my personal contact information. I started with $60 worth of red nickels, 12 chips. I noticed a perfect pattern occurring in the same 12 numbers. So I bet with the pattern like a crazy man. I walked away with $3,000 in thirty minutes. I went on to label these things as Elegant Patterns. I have been lambasted and ridiculed for saying that for decades. The mathNazies see "elegant patterns" as some kind of hocus-pocus snake oil salesman con game.

    Yes, it will one day be too late and all the wonderful people that try to save others from me will hopefully get thanked accordingly for those rescues.
     
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  14. gizmotron

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    try this if you need room from these kind of control personalities.

     
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    wow, top song gizmo. reminds of another classic: "don't worry, be happy."
     
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  16. Nathan Detroit

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    Like the lady from Argentina said " I can give you illusions but no solutions ".


    Fair enough ?
     
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  17. Rinad

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    I did not ask anyone for proof that they can win.

    only one person answered , bravo.

    let me ask the question just a little differently this time ; can anyone just said " I beat the game consistently !!! "

    any of you can said these words ???? if some stranger were to ask you ? anyone in this forum besides Sir ????

    thank you
     
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  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have set out to prove that I can continuously achieve a 2 to 1 win to loss ratio in money earned in long run averages. I have successfully trained others to do the same. I have given this away so that others can self teach themselves the skills required to achieve the same high results.

    I beat the game consistently. I also recommend total self control over basic human nature if attempting self instruction.
     
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  19. Rinad

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    fair enough , and good for you . it is not a trick question, just a very simple one, and I hope more then just a hand full can said it . I dont know what it is about this game that so few are willing to said it if they believe it !
    even if at one time I lost my shirt and then I kept on learning through the years, so what ? its our tuition fee right ? and even if money was not involve one could still said " I can beat this game ". a poker pro has no problem saying "I am a winner ", but for some obscure reason roulette players have a hard time with this. and I am not speaking about short term luck but firm belief , either you do or you dont.
    thanks for answering ,
     
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  20. Rinad

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    at this point in my life I have nothing to prove to anyone .

    I can beat this game, will never said it was easy nor it is easy , and it feels pretty darn good to be able to do it, and just last night as I was going to bed, I was thankful to my Lord to helping me making it happen, and so I am saying it with no shame at all that I do beat this game. this thread is just for me and others to know if they are just a few or a lot of us who are able to beat the wheel.

    God bless,
     
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