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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Mr x

    Mr x Member

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    same for me in my country of residence, no tax on winnings :) and well done u, even 1% a day,is 350% a year even if u skip few days and not reinvest profits and with re investing profits, i m not good with math still think would be 1000% + :)
     
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  2. Dutchman

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    I am happy to see you are doing well. Personally I am afraid to bet on more than 18/19 numbers. The chances of winning increase indeed but in case of a few losses in a row doubling the bets is not sufficient anymore. But lets keep sharing results. I am working towards getting a BR of say 6000euro so my safe to achieve 1,5% profit per day is 90 euro. Per month tax free 2700 euro and for me that is sufficient. No motrgage, no debts and retired. Clearly i will keep on doing this to increase BR and daily profit.
     
  3. Mr x

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    thank u for reply. I'll think of it, and will keep u updated too. Meanwhile, do u ever increase double bets? or just sticking to starting point until loss is recovered eventually. I am trying to be cold and reasonable so not planing to bet thousands at the time, my limit is my bank that is 360 that would let me bet 4 times in case of losing bet. I was able to make my planned profit of 10% then logged off. Though if I am honest was tempted to continue but I know best to keep head cold. Slowly but steady! I know some days I might get more some less but as long as loss is recovered and i didnt lose inital bank of 360, I am good. cause winning money lost I never considered as loss, only my initial bank.
     
  4. steeefan2014

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    Wow, really happy to see that are players that are really thinking this game and they are not rushing into betting tons of money...
    As I said on another forum (I'm new on this one) except the edge that casino's have and it's making an important difference, the other main important things that gets casinos reach are impatience, greed, booze and distraction.

    Dutchman, I might have missed this info in case you wrote it in a previous post, but I would like to know if it's possible, how high is your unit size?

    For example: at 1000eur bankroll, how much you bet/number?
    Thanks
     
  5. Dutchman

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    I typically use 0,10 euro as unit. When I bet tiers that is a total bet of only 0,60 euro. When a certain sector is way overdue I sometimes raise the unit to 0,40 euro and I have even used 1euro as unit. The advantage is that is case of a win i win 9 euro but with progressions it quickly adds up too much. So i rather play longer with smaller profits per win but much lower risk. To me risk mitigation and patience are the key to get money from a casino.
     
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  6. steeefan2014

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    Got it, thanks! So basically, at 0.1eur, you're using a 10.000 units bankroll. Seems pretty safe!
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Simple as that : Plan your play and play your plan ...........
     

  8. Dutchman

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    Indeed, in my other life I am aPE involved in reliability and risk assessment of heavy equipment in the petrochemical industry. So risk mitigation is my second nature. Plus I really dislike playing roulette. So first I looked into daytrading but there the risks are much higher and most daytraders suffer years of lossrs before they may make some money. So that to me was the trigger to look at casino and my dislike of playing makes it easy to stop when i reach my daily small target.
     
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  9. steeefan2014

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    The way I play is based on repeaters. Mostly, it works flat bet, rarely I apply any progression and even then it's a +1 on a loss, -1 on a win. But, at the way I play, I never go higher than 3 units/number. And I play with reset at any win, no matter if it's 5-6units or 20... Better make it an income, than a huge expense...
     
  10. Mr x

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    what do you mean by repeaters? if I may ask. "Better make it an income, than a huge expense" good one! The only way to do so, not to be greedy and take it easy, slowly but steady say 20 a day still 7k a year :)
     
  11. steeefan2014

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    I posted this on another forum also:

    It's known that the average that repeaters shows up is as it follows:

    - between spins 1-10 - 1 repeater
    - between spins 11-20 - 3 repeaters
    - between spins 21-30 - 5 repeaters
    - between spins 31-40 - 7 repeaters.
    Of course, this values are not set in stone. THEY ARE AVERAGES!!! It's possible that you will encounter 1-1-7-7 or any other value...

    This is how I play:

    I start by tracking the first 15 numbers

    1. if by spin 15 I have 1 repeat or less, I start betting only the numbers that appeared ONLY ONCE!!!
    2. if by spin 15 I have 2 or more repeats, I wait until spin 20.
    3. if by spin 20 I have 3 or less repeats, start betting. Again, only the numbers that appeared only once!!!
    4. if by spin 20 I have 4 or more repeats, I wait until spin 25.
    5. if by spin 25 I have 5 or less repeats, start betting. Still the numbers that appeared only once!
    6. if by spin 25 I have 6 or more repeats, I wait until spin 30.
    7. if by spin 30 I have 7 or less repeats, start betting. Again, the numbers that showed up only once.

    Let's say at spin 15 you have one number repeating. This means that you will bet all the other 13 numbers (you don't bet the number that repeated, this means that you have 13 numbers left).
    If it hits, you take out the number that hit. If it misses, you add the new number to your numbers to bet list.

    Progression: for the first 3 bets: 1 unit/number. Whenever you reach a new high, I would recommend reset and start over.
    If after the first 3 bets you don't reach a new high, for the next 3 bets add 1 unit/number. So it will be 2-2-2. Again, until you reach a new high when I recommend to reset the session. If still don't get to a new high, add one more unit and go to 3-3-3 for the next 3 bets.

    Also, If during one session you don't get to a new high or you don't feel comfortable with how the numbers shows up, you can start a new one and you can keep the bet size from the previous session:

    Example: in the first session you placed 3 bets at 1unit/number - missed. Then another 3 bets at 2 units/number - missed again. If you want to start over, you can reset and start a new session and the first 3 bets will be (if you want that) at 3 units/number.
    I don't bet less than 13 numbers.

    A few hints from my play:

    If by spin 15 I encounter 3 or more repeats... I reset and start over.
    if by spin 20 I don't see any repeats... I reset and start over. Here are big chances that your BR might be blown away.

    It usually works from the start and I don't have to apply any progression. But, there are times when it has to... not so many, to be honest!
     
  12. Mr x

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    thank u for information! I am currently exploring tracking street bet that came up 2-3 times in a row, then cover all the rest streets plus one bet on 0 and bet, it gives u small profit of 2 units on the initial bet, from my experience same street max came up 4 times in a row never so far more, so i bet small with room to "double" up to 4 times to be safe, sounds like a lot, but I start with small bet so it doesnt turn in to thousands by bet 4 lol so far so good, dripping small profit. its time consuming but I bet more when same street came up 3 times in row, thinking to stick to it, wating for 3 times before betting, takes longer to wait but despite all numbers have same chance to come up, still better chance to win :) if take it easy and not rush and not to be greedy like "Dutchmen" 1% profit a day can turn out to be good income.
     
  13. steeefan2014

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    That's a nice one too! What BR do you use for that?
     
  14. Mr x

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    you mean my Bank for the game? its 1000, but I Start with 330, decided to use that amount but with re investing profits. I've set my mind not to consider won money if lost as loss, only initial bank 330. Should I lose 330 then I would stop for the day, cause rushing and getting to "rush" would cause to lose it all.. hence I dont deposit all the bank to my casino account.. I am sure we all been there when u bet more and more thinking u will return it all, just a little bit more then u lose track of "plan" and it leads to lose money. Slowly and steady is the only way. my daily goal up to 10% of initial bank 1-3-5 depends on how its going, as usually i have time limit set for myself to play, as spending all day in front of computer is not healthy. since most of casino offers few tables to play at and all have preview of last 10-15 bets, its easy to pick "fast" table to work with and yes I call it work, set my mind to it, its work, not entertainment or luck seeking no ifs maybe and buts.. work, sticking to initial plan, had my bad days when i had diversions from plan, learned my lesson as there is no one to blame for it, as i see sticking to plan is the only way no matter what "table shows" as casino does all it can to make u lose focus and "try luck" that the way to lose money. now lately so far I am in control and loging off as soon as i reach my goal sometimes there is bit more then my set goal, then I only use "whats over" for the bets, if I lose it I dont deep in to profits of the day i am done for the day, if it gives me bit extra i keep it. As I've learned also, when u try to "make just a bit more" to round up... u end up losing more than that 1 unit u were missing to round up your bank. say you profited 19 USD EURO or GBP then you would say to yourself, let me bet small just to make 1 more unit to round it up... thats a bad plan! better tomorrow on fresh head so to say make another 19/20 then run after 1 unit and lose 10..
     
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  15. steeefan2014

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    You're so right about that! As I previously said, it's good to hear that there still are people that are using their heads while playing this game! I sure hope you'll keep it that way and keep growing!
     
  16. Mr x

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    thank you! that the only way! cool blood :) and working, not looking for luck lol
     
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    Make you cake & it eat it TOO ;)
     
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    I've seen black for 43 times in a row, and same number 4 times..

    how is it going for u? still making enough? how do u pick your 2 4 6 8 numbers to play?
     
  19. steeefan2014

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    RNG, I suppose, right?
     
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    it was mchine with pneumatic ball shooting not sure how its called correctly. One of those "domed" machines.
     

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