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Roulette Is it possible to Beat Roulette?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. steeefan2014

    steeefan2014 New Member

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    Airball roulette
     
  2. DanyWhite

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    This is very interesting information. Do you mind if I try this? I think if you posted it here, you give permission for this.
     
  3. 6th-sense

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    http://ayk.bplaced.net/notto/ ayks tracker link made for notthammer for repeats..different format than the main ayk v8 tracker..makes it easier for you to look at where repeats are hitting..this is what it was made for
     
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  4. steeefan2014

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    Of course! It's out, feel free to use it! I'm open too to any improvement :)
     
  5. steeefan2014

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    Thanks 6th!
     
  6. Jokersun

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    I will keep this quote in my mind and do my best
     
  7. Rona

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    Whenever I read the word average, I think... "garbage".
    Because in roulette "averages" never really materialize forever and even just one exception is enough to destroy your banroll.
    I'm done with averages.
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So true. Average, a mathematical average, serves one useful purpose to me. It helps me to know what the balance point is and the balance point of the session. I always play the session and pretty much ignore each spin result. Ups and downs, waves of progress. You play to win the session. Once I have my win I'm done. If you have trouble relating to this then just chart the results of 100 spins all bet on Red. I'll example this for you with my practice software for this purpose:

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  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Beating Roulette ? ROFL.
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So I'm just getting ready to watch the comeback NASCAR race starting in a few minutes. They are talking about what happens if a driver breaks down in their mind. The same goes for military fighter pilots. If the pilot "allows themselves to get behind the plane" as they put it they are saying that the information is coming at them so fast that they can't keep up with it. This can happen to you in a Roulette session. You can't beat Roulette, but you can allow yourself to win a session. You must wait until the game lets you win. There is no way to force it to win.
     
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  11. Platton

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    Interesting observation. Can I share my observation, too? In the nearby Vaddi thread, I said that many years was trying to understand his puzzle. The basis of his system is also built on repeats. But he had a cycle of 37 spins. And the use of Law 2/3. This law has known everyone for a long time. I think you know him, too. But what does he give? I never found out. The only thing I recently discovered was a thought I checked. And it 's a bit like what you write. I will share:
    So, if we take Law 2/3, we know that for 37 spins there are 24 numbers and 12 repeats. And recently trying different versions of all this, I will not explain for long how all this was, but I tried to make the system based on 18 numbers, i.e. half the field... But not the point, and then I got the idea to check the repeats again on 18 numbers, but from a different angle. So I found out, from 37 spins in the first 18 rotations, on average, 15 numbers and 3 repeters drop out. And there is a law in roulette that states that for 37 spins fall 24 numbers and 12 repeters, on average. Then it means that let 's say in the first 18 spins we had 15 numbers and 3 of them were repeated. Then in the next remaining 18 spins (I do take 36 spins for clarity) we have to have 9 numbers and 9 repeats by law, so that in total for 37 spins I get 24 numbers and 12 repeats. But let 's get back to the beginning. In the first 18 spins 15 numbers and 3 repeats. In the second 18 spins 9 new numbers and 9 repeats. BUT, in the second rotation cycle 18, there is also an average constant of 15 numbers and 3 repeats, as if it were the first if we went into the game starting with it. What does that give us? And what we say is that in the second half of 18 spins 9 new numbers and 9 repeats. But we also look at the second half of 18 rotations, as well as the first, where the average constant is 15 different numbers and 3 repeats. This means that of the 9 repeats, 3 repeats will only be from the numbers from this second half 18 spins. The remaining 6 repeats from the first half 18 spins. But, we know there were 15 numbers in the first half of 18 spins. 3 of them were repeated. So there are 12 numbers left. And of these 12 numbers, from a logical point of view, and there must be those 6 repeats that are in the second half of the spins 18. Sometimes these 6 replays still concern the 3 replays that have already fallen out. But sometimes. This mainly applies to 12 numbers that have not been repeated. But that 's not all. We can also narrow the circle of 12 numbers. Because we look at the first 18 spins just as if it were already the second 18 spins for the previous 18 spins. Which means that of these 12 numbers, there were already 6 repeats for the previous 18 spins. And this means that only 6 numbers remain, which as yet are not "repeated," and most likely these 6 numbers and will be those our 6 repeats. Unfortunately, the roulette is different, and repeters can be repeated already in those repeats that were. Although in terms of balance, it 's nonsense. But roulette is not an algorithm, but a randomization. But there is a 2/3 constant on which such very good conclusions like this example can be drawn. And he 's really good. And there are still not few ways to use repeats, BUT, all of them lack balance - singles. I.e. Together with repeats you need to be able to put on singles somehow, so that there is a balance. And I haven 't succeeded yet. But give you a digital example for the clarity of what I explained to you.

    First 18 spins

    2
    23
    10
    8
    33
    9
    12
    5
    11
    19
    21
    18
    35
    10
    12
    29
    32
    5

    next 18 spins

    15
    24
    7
    16
    23
    34
    27
    36
    24
    18
    23
    16
    23
    22
    0
    33
    21
    19

    As you can see - by the middle of the numbers that will repeat in this cycle of 18 numbers. We have two of them. The rightmost ones are numbers that have been repeated from the previous 18 spins. And in this cycle there are numbers that have not been repeated. They are likely to be repeated in the next 18 spins. At least the chance of it is very big. And that 's what 's next.

    next 18 spins

    30
    22
    10
    7
    36
    8
    17
    5
    29
    12
    34
    32
    15
    35
    36
    0
    17
    16

    Yes, its numbers from real wheel. And its good example.
    But there are also anomalies that occur on the roulette wheel as the following. And then they don 't really work out. That 's why you need singles. In the following example, just the selected 18 numbers from the roulette wheel, but a sequence of previous ones.

    12
    36
    34
    11
    25
    5
    7
    24
    5
    36
    7
    8
    14
    15
    23
    32
    28
    19

    next 18 spins

    5
    16
    28
    6
    15
    33
    33
    9
    0
    36
    21
    18
    3
    0
    21
    0
    12
    33

    As you can see in this example, there are 5 internal repeats and all of them are from new numbers. So in such cases, it need singles. But still, I think it 's really cool. And it still works in most cases. It just needs to be refined.
     
  12. Platton

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    Sorry guys, but the forum defines my content as spam. Will try again with examples.

    First 18 spins

    2
    23
    10
    8
    33
    9
    12
    5
    11
    19
    21
    18
    35
    10
    12
    29
    32
    5

    next 18 spins

    15
    ---24
    7
    16
    23
    34
    27
    36
    24
    18
    23
    16
    23
    22
    0
    33
    21
    19
     
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  13. Platton

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    Lol can`t change. To edit gves only 5 minute :confused:
    One more time

    First 18 spins

    2
    23
    10
    8
    33
    9
    12
    5
    11
    19
    21
    18
    35
    10
    12
    29
    32
    5

    next 18 spins

    15
    ----24
    7
    ----16
    --------23
    34
    27
    36
    ----24
    -------18
    -------23
    ----16
    -------23
    22
    0
    -------33
    -------21
    -------19

    As you can see - by the middle of the numbers that will repeat in this cycle of 18 numbers. We have two of them. The rightmost ones are numbers that have been repeated from the previous 18 spins. And in this cycle there are numbers that have not been repeated. They are likely to be repeated in the next 18 spins. At least the chance of it is very big. And that 's what 's next.
     
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  14. Platton

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    so next 18 spins

    30
    --------22
    10
    --------7
    --------36
    8
    ----17
    5
    29
    12
    --------34
    32
    --------15
    35
    --------36
    --------0
    ----17
    --------16

    Yes, its numbers from real wheel. And its good example.
    But there are also anomalies that occur on the roulette wheel as the following. And then they don 't really work out. That 's why you need singles. In the following example, just the selected 18 numbers from the roulette wheel, but a sequence of previous ones.

    12
    36
    34
    11
    25
    5
    7
    24
    ----5
    ----36
    ----7
    8
    ------14
    ------15
    ------23
    ------32
    ------28
    ------19

    next 18 spins

    ------5
    16
    ------28
    6
    ------15
    ---33
    ---33
    9
    ---0
    ------36
    ---21
    18
    3
    ---0
    ---21
    ---0
    ------12
    ---33

    As you can see in this example, there are 5 internal repeats and all of them are from new numbers. And the rest of the repeats were already from other repeats except one number. So in such cases, it need singles. But still, I think it 's really cool. And it still works in most cases. It just needs to be refined.
     
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  15. DanyWhite

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    By the way what is your impression of NASCAR? Do they made it on a virtual track?
     
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  16. gizmotron

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    I didn't bother to watch the virtual racing. They did a great job of isolating during the race. I tend to get entertained by anyone that puts it on the line. That goes for extreme, difficult entertainment concepts, extreme sports, exceptional team play where one player outclasses their counter opponent in a play. Fake don't make it homie.
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Mr. J, Christian IKaisan, Dr. Sir Any one Any one , have beaten the game of roulette on occasions .
     
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    Drunk again ? Is it coz your dozens didn't do Well? Your Patrick crab failed? Have another one b4 bedtime
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Those 3 gentlemen I mentioned are tops .
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    Gizmotron is doing rather well with various EC selections and an appropriate MM. A wide range of options to chose from .
     
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