Baccarat Is there any strategy can win the house??

No reply chip?
Here it is then.
You have no idea what you are talking about, you are using apple and we are discussing orange.
Fundamental error number 1 .
You assume that the last result has a bearing on the next result. There is no connection between the two or the 17th result vs the first. The results don’t care if you are non binary specific, the result does not care what the individual interaction is with that result or the next result.
Fundamental error number 2
If you are going to tabulate data, use that tabulated data to refute a claim make sure you know what you are talking about , make sure you are using the same principle to gather the data as the other claimants.

Fundamental error number 3
You are not cut out to succeed at this endeavour. Why ? Because you only offer excuses as to why you cannot succeed at something others succeed at.

The o.g poster has given the rules for the process he employed. You complain about the random nature of the shoe ending at the stadium you play. The o.g said keep a continuous run of results to perform the grind, nowhere does he say stop reset and start again. He treats the new shoe as a continuation of the last, I believe he worked in shifts at one stage, another team member toook over for the next 12 hrs until he returned to carry on if needed ( being the result was not reached or the result was reached) So you crying about shoe stops is redundant, just you looking for an excuse for it (and you) not to succeed. You don’t want to do the 200 hour grind , which is wrong and only shows your database , data tabulation is wrong.
Fundamental error number 4
Zumma testing, are you serious? Are you reverse engineering to the same database that WILL NEVER RECURE. E V V E E E E R R AGAIN?
Are you even sure that the zumma is a legitimate database that is still effective some 30 years after being initially tabulated and sold to morons around the interverse?

Fumdarmental error number 5
You have listed numerous reasons why you can’t do anything with the tools your are given YET you continue to play there 4 or so days a week. In all this time you have not stop to think of how to use the “ limitations “ you are confronted with to make a viable result from. You continue to do the same old approach and you don’t stop to wonder why you get the same result? You can only post to critique using bad skills, non understanding of basic principles with bad data of other people that succeed using every skill that you refuse to even attempt to learn.

Get your facts straight, or not.
If you don’t want any one to succeed just be a blatant JBS style poster ( I actually respect him for his shit posts) if you are angry with others success, sure understandable with your conduct you displayed here. You don’t want to succeed, fine nothing wrong with that BUT surely with the right adjustment to your own blinkered linear incorrect method you to can prove that something can work. You just have to make it work , stop crying , stop running so many sims with bad inputs. Etc etc etc
Cheers

 

No. I ran more than different trials testing OG over various numbers of hands, ranging from trials of 75 hands to trials of tens of thousands of hands. OG failed every set of trials, no matter where the trial began. Whether it began where the bet would have reached twenty units, 100 units, of 500 units, before starting with a single unit bet, it always loses. I found that limiting the size of the bet before starting over still resulted in an inevitable overall loss. I also found that the average number of hands required for a bet size to reach 500 units before beginning a series with a single unit bet, is 24,000 hands, or 200 hours of waiting. And it didn't make any difference in the overall outcome.

No matter how you change the rules, OG always loses more than it wins. You can win sessions, but you will suffer unpredictable catastrophic losses that will more than offset any wins.

If anyone can't understand this, or doesn't want to believe this, try using OG using any of the rules mentioned, or make up your own rules.

Fundamental error number 3

How do you know they are succeeding? What proof have they offered. One poster at least shows photos of chip stacks, cash and receipts. Anyone winning large on a stadium game collects their winnings in receipts. Large wins require the casino to issue a W-G2 to record the transaction. No photos of those either. Simply 'trust me'.

12 hr. shifts. And you believe that? Why?

I did treat the shoes as a continuation of the last. I found it does not matter. Lemonade proved it. I proved it. If also found that to wait for a starting point where the OG bet would have reached 500 units, before beginning a session with a single unit bet, required an average of 200 hours of waiting. And when the sessions began at that point, the strategy still lost overall.

If you can't believe my results, then run your own trials.

I included Zumma since a number of players use the collection to test their own strategies. I used many tens of thousands of other hands over more than fifty trials.

I continue to play there because over the past sixteen months, 'the same result' as you call it, is winning an average of 55.65% of my bets. All flat banker bets. I am not complaining at all about my results.

The fact that they randomly switch shoes prematurely, has not hurt my game.

Again. If you or anyone else don't believe my results, conduct your own trials, or try using OG in a casino.

 

Chip Magnet, one correction, it was not a bet of 500 units that Jae was waiting for but a drawdown of -500 units before beginning the betting (which you would be more likely to see regularly).

I agree that Oscar's fails in the long run. With a massive bankroll, you would have a better chance. Did Jae survive on luck until he reached the massive bankroll category? Possibly. Since the only simulations Jae did were by hand, he was naive about his chances. When you are naive about the odds against you, sometimes you will blunder ahead and get lucky.

Is Jae just making this success story up for purposes of self aggrandizement? Also possible. We will never really know for sure, I suppose. We all want to think that we can win and stories like Jae's give us a little hope. So we want to believe, or at least I do. I give him the benefit of the doubt, even though he may be embellishing a bit (or maybe a lot).

 

So there is no misunderstanding, No one started any session with a 500 unit bet.

Results waiting for a drawdown of -500 units before starting with a $5 bet:

Sessions limited to 2,400 hands.

26 winning sessions for a total 4,490 units won

6 losing sessions for a total -10,910 units lost

Net Units Lost: -6,420

This is worse than expected. As Wilson explained, you never know when a catastrophic event will occur.

 

Do you get off on being corrected? Because you’re still so oblivious. You continue to be confidentially incorrect.

You clearly don’t follow simple instructions and you don’t seem to actually know what I’m doing at all. It’s okay, some people might try to explain it for you, I’d try to get down to your level and so it but I’m all out of crayons.

 

@fathead.

Your candid opinion in post # 43 has been greatly appreciated.



ND

 

Chip Magnet makes some good points.

There was an infamous Baccarat system player and seller that said in a 50-50 game half the people who use it will win, the other half will lose. LOL. Of course he was referring to limited member of outcomes recorded.

Way back during the OG Bacc thread I did a small test picking some live shoes which were recorded by me in order at Mohegan Sun. Played OG as per JAE deciding on a $2,000.00 unit start. The good news was that after 13 shoes it went down but eventually recouped with a net win profit of $33.35. The bad news was that it went down to ($4136.15) with largest bet $389.00. I figured I was pretty lucky finally getting a real good Banker shoe and decided that I wouldn't play it live.

 

Thanks for that, Nathan.

 

Hey Gamblers!

Martingale needs to be your friend.
It can help you a lot if you understand the probability of you to succeed in this game. Money management, grow your bankroll, cut it down when it's time, start all over again. Don't be pussy.
Printing money!!!!!

HEY HEY

 

Do you still using the 5 steps or 6 steps?

 

The mane for me is 5 steps or sometimes I stop at 3 or 4, I can get back that lose in no time. Easy.

 

The system which is the system behind the system is the winning system which is never revealed .

Touch Down for the one who know .

 

Nathan, my man, how are you doing? Flat bets still going strong or bankroll flatting out slowly?

 

I am NOT a professional gambler .My recreational activity is my business and no one elses .


I* am a winner and paying for my international travels ;

 

To make something clear I have NEVER posted any flat or any other methods.


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Why do you not worry about the Oscar Grind bankroll?


A horn sawaggle at best.

 

That's nice to hear.
Then Good Luck in your upcoming session.

And for those flat bets.
It wasn't meant like insult to you, I was just wondering how are you doing because as I remember, you were very negative towards my martingale approach.

And sorry for asking, it's your business definitely.

Have a good day.

 

More nonsense from our resident lucky lottery player.

 

Chip Magnet did his home work . Rather interesting details.

 

Oh so your 55+% is to believed before all others?
Nice to know you are the only “honest” person on the interverse.

If your familiar with brickyard casinoverse as you claim, you should have NO problem understanding that there are many people pulling 8- 12 shifts , hookers, drug dealers, money lenders, beggars (APs lol) must hit jackpot slot player, baccarat player, roulette player, blackjack etc.

I believe frank a poster here ran teams in hobo vagasvill for a friend of his mom’s, some time ago , but YOU would have to call him and the rest of us liars BECAUSE YOU are the ONLY credible source on the interverse .

I’m inclined to say liar liar pants on fire, as you seem to discredit yourself on many occasions here, you display no talent to succeed, I’ve read your posts, you seem to have the jar of sour grace with your fist fully clenched in it.

I think your skills lay in sim junkie testing with minimum comprehension of the art of consistency in profitable baccarat play. IMHO.
But you posted your a winner on the rng change at a drop of a dime the casinoverse complaints department number one poster boy but still wins 56+% .

I really BELIEVE ONLY YOU
No one else here is credible.