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Roulette It's insane ! It's all a fallacy !

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mumbo Jumbo and Witchcraft !

    So I grabbed my Minimum Interval system and the strangest thing happened !

    It was almost as if Random had LIMITS ???
    It was almost as if Random was predictable ??
    It was almost like Gambler's Fallacy suddenly stopped existing ??
    Oh wait, it was Parx Online, RNG - that's what it had to be.
    It could never work in a casino because random there isn't like random anywhere
    else, it's special "Casino Random" which can't be beaten, can't be predictable...
    Random isotope's can be predicted, RNG can be predicted - but not Casino Random,
    it's a whole different animal isn't it ?
    Oh wait - it works in casino too !!!!!!! Oh no !
    Let's post memes and animated gifs - or say "Go make millions" !
    Let's post the "experts" all throughout history (and throw in Einstein too, hell, why not)
    who clearly tell us that nothing works, it's "not enough spins"..
    "It's not realistic conditions", "It's all rigged".

    What do these people have against people winning ? I wonder sometimes.
    They are first to make comments trying to lead people away from what works -
    as if there's some agenda or benefit to them in doing so.
    You would think - in a rational world - that they would be eager to find information
    and ways to win that would benefit everyone, but instead they downplay and excuse
    and winning way as "nonsense" because a "expert" told them so.

    [​IMG]

    Playing Lines, then squares, then streets, then splits, then straights - only ended
    because I got bored from winning so much so easily.
    "Win so much you're going to get tired of winning"
    Now where did I hear that before ?
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Good grief that graph looks like shit! And you're in pretend mode?
     
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  3. RouletteGhost

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    Why are you assuming where the graph was derived from. Could be a spin log he kept, a real session, random dot org? Could be anything

    The goal of the “sellers”’ is slander
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Why are you calling Turbo a "seller?"
     
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    To sell what, a graph?!
    Get serious!
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I couldn't agree more !!!

    There's never a day where anyone playing roulette would be happy
    with 318 units profit in only 169 spins.
    If I won 31k in 3 hours, I'd be so depressed and feel such loss that
    I'd probably never gamble again.

    You're a strange one Sir Anyone, a strange one indeed.
     
  7. Sharptracker

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    Honestly, not to piss you off but that graph is very scary... I almost can imagine myself shit in my pant from 19k to -4k...

    It is a serious problem...
     
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    It feels good to win. Is this some kind of band-aid or compensation for inadequacy? If you want recognition for your accomplishment then just wreck it. Wreck the hole dang thing. I took $40 and turned it into $1,400 in a three day win streak. And that is only part of what can happen to anyone that knows what the current conditions are and what works when it is supposed to work. It's even part of knowing what to do when things don't work so that you don't give it all back. Things work in their time or they don't. That is what randomness does. You advocate that randomness always works in the long run. And you get this wonderful world you see because of some playing rules and selections. Maybe. I just don't get the part where you need recognition but with limitations. It's like a whore that won't give out. You are like a teaser at 16. Why are you doing this?
     
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    I heard a fun saying years ago......

    The number one most intense rush a person can have is > a winning day at the casino.

    The number two most intense rush a person can have is > a losing day at the casino.

    Ken
     
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  10. RouletteGhost

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    I mean you can win for years. It’s just LUCK and doesn’t mean ANYTHING

    The method doesn’t work, even if it works. Duh.
     
  11. Sharptracker

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    That's how a weak mind probably thinks yes... but Excel doesn't lie with flat betting.... flat bet coz if you can't beat it with flat bet, you can't beat it only because of the progression effect, otherwise it would mean that the progression beat the roulette.

    It gives you the results in few seconds while you prefer taking note on the corner of your book and listen to variance songs... but it's never too late! look, i've met a guy playing roulette with plenty BS in his head for more than 60 years...
     
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  12. SERGIO

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    No estoy de acuerdo con que no puedas ganar la ruleta a largo plazo.
    Tuve la suerte de hablar con vaddis por correo electrónico varias veces y ha estado ganando durante años, pero eso no es todo, vaddis es uno de los mejores que hay, pero estuve estudiando seriamente al Sr. Dyksexlic todo este tiempo y descubrí lo que realmente es es con su sistema de rng 100% ganador de ruleta y puedo asegurar que siempre funciona, y no solo en rng, también funciona en real, pero al poder jugar en rng, no vamos a ser tontos para perder tiempo en real .
    Pero mi ilusión no era solo encontrar cómo ganar el juego sino también crear mi propia forma de ganar y, finalmente, pude lograr mi sueño, logré crear mi propia forma de ganar basada en el principio del desván.
    Me importa muy poco lo que pienses de mí sobre lo que acabo de decir, pero vaddis se basa en un juego de estados para equilibrar el juego, dyksexlic se basa en un algoritmo y confío en el principio del loft, lo más interesante es que las tres cosas provienen del mismo lugar, las matemáticas y no, no es necesario usar una progresión.
    Respeto a Turbo y a otras personas que tienen mucho conocimiento sobre el juego para poder ganar con más o menos capital, pero puedo asegurarles que, como muchos dicen, si no pueden ganar jugando sin ganar, la progresión no les ganará. , bueno, sí, es posible, pero se necesita mucho capital y límites en la gran mesa, porque a veces se obtienen las sesiones que necesitan mucho dinero.
    Espero que todas las personas puedan cumplir su sueño, el mío no fue solo para ganar, sino también para crear mi propia forma y ya la he cumplido.
    Animos caballeros, todos pueden obtenerlo, pero dejen las mismas ideas que siempre, porque no hay nada.
    Saludos
     
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    Hello ...
    I looked at the chart as Turbo said ... it's different games ...
    pink points determine the beginning and end of the game ...
     
  14. TurboGenius

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    Not pissed off for sure, it's a matter of looking at the unit size - then your pants will stay clean lol.
    I used $100.00 chips in the chart because that's the min bet at Parx Online.
    So yes in that case the drop is impressive and scary - until you consider that's with 100.00 chips,
    which no one uses (other than Steve and Sir Anyone - those AP high rollers)
    So that's around 220 units down - in $1.00 bets that's $220 and no one is going to shit themselves
    over that (I would hope.... then they shouldn't be in a casino).
    It recovers just fine, no outlandish progression and none needed (up as you win only).
    So there's nothing scary about the chart - just understand that the chips are $100.00 and not $1.00
    Sir Anyone's "looks like shit" comment shows he doesn't bet very large value chips - if he did, he would
    have seen that kind of drawdown many times. (I'm sure he won't agree, he only wins wins wins with the
    wobbly wheels).
    Drawdowns are part of the game - since even with this advantage, we can't predict random perfectly
    and those are going to happen. If you know for a fact that it's going to pull out and profit in the end -
    there's no reason to be concerned over it, it's part of winning.


    This was all one "game". I started with line bets, then moved to corners, then streets, then splits
    and then then straight ups using the exact same rules for each section.
    It could have gone on (and drastically upwards in profit) for a hundred spins or more but I felt that it
    had already demonstrated itself working.
    So you can see - the line bets part did nicely, the corner section dropped and recovered - and the other sections all won of course as well.
     
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    The graph looks like luck, that's all. Had you stopped a few spins early then you would have lost. The graph isn't impressive.

    I can see why you're stuck playing in pretend mode. Playing like that I doubt that you have two nickels left to rub together.
     
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  16. TurboGenius

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    More drivel / nonsense of course.

    Lets look at the chart -
    The lowest the player had was 36 units in the hole.
    36..... that's it.
    It ended +318 units ahead.

    So to be clear - your insane mentality is that a going in the hole a measly 36 units is too extreme
    and winning 318 units is not enough to be impressive lol.
    I'd stick with the wobbly wheels, you clearly can't hang with using any other way.
    The player started at 0, at one point was -36 and climbed easily to win 318 units -
    But you clearly don't understand how that's impressive.
    Oh wait, just yanking my chain again.
    Yes, it's all luck lol.
    Please show "luck" in a calculation. You can't of course, it doesn't exist as a "thing".
    But it conveniently shows up when a nay-sayer wants to make it appear that something
    only won because of "some magic invisible non-existent force". Strange, what a waste of time you are.
     
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    It's only 160 spins! LOL!!! Why not post the results of just one spin?

    [​IMG]
    My one spin out performed yours! :D
     
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    He just can’t accept winning unless it’s done exploiting a wheel.

    I’d just ignore it. It’s easier
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Common sense and logic always seem to elude you new guys.
     
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    True
     

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