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Roulette It's insane ! It's all a fallacy !

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    The law of the third is a real math phenomenon

    The theory is it cannot help in roulette

    It’s foolish to think that

    Even dr sir Xander agrees it isn’t random hehe
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The law of the third demonstrates the distribution of randomness. Good grief! LOL!!!

    Think of it like this...
    In craps, the seven hits the most because there are more ways for the seven to hit.

    In roulette, over 38 spins, there are more ways for some numbers to have hit two, and three times or not at all than there are for all numbers to have hit exactly once. Understand??

    Unfortunately there's absolutely no way to exploit the normal random distribution in the random game because it's RANDOM, and the payout is set for a 36 pocket wheel, not a 37 or 38 pocket wheel. This is why I'm always shaking my head when the forumtards like Notto plot there distributions. Their distributions are showing that the wheel has toooo many pockets. LOL!!!
     
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  3. mr j

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    Meaning? Do you agree, it might be a THING but its *NOT* some math law being taught. You know this, right?

    Ken
     
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    mr j Well-Known Member

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    I need to bump this. It took forever to type.
     
  5. Mako

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    "Forumtards"?? lol, you sound like Turbo and Gizmo furiously masturbating into their MAGA hats after trolling someone who couldn't care less what they think on a political board. "WHOSE SMART NOW LIBTARD OH YEAAAAH HERE IT COMESSSSSS UGGHGNNNGHHGNNH" :p

    The bottom line is that the name of the outcome doesn't matter. Call it what you wish if the term "LOTT" bothers you. But in every 37 spin cycle roughly 24 numbers arrive, with roughly 12 repeats and roughly 12 unhits.

    So the question you should ask is whether a bet selection and number selection process can be developed to take advantage of that rough outcome over time, to create an advantage for the player.

    Some have claimed, and proven, that they have managed to do just that. It's the basis for what David proposed, what Dyksexlic proposed, and even 6th-Sense has proposed, just to name a few.

    It is impossible to imagine a scenario where that known outcome can't be somehow exploited?
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Your so-called challenge was a waste of my time, much like you are in general.
    I'm almost confident now that I've made more this year in $ at the casino then you have.
    That's sad (for you).
    I'll just put you on ignore as I do with trolls, there's no point talking with you again.
    My last memory of you will of course be that you said "we can expect" things to happen
    and then at the same time argue that nothing can be expected to happen.
    All the while making a true ass of yourself in public by trying to play both sides of the coin
    just to keep feeling relevant I suppose.
    Cheers. Maybe we'll speak again when you create a new name on some other forum I suppose.
    A person who needs so many identities yet everyone knows what they all are is a true
    sign of a mental disorder - how could I ever expect anything of value to come from you.
    I never wanted to block you but that's what's happening. As you can see from the .CC place -
    I keep my word - I won't speak to you again.
     
  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    Maybe after you get a little more experience under your belt and after you study a little basic probability, then we can have real discussion.
     

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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Mako,

    Here's the problem. Yes some numbers will hit three times, and some will twice, some will hit once, some won't hit all, and some may even hit five times or more. The problem is you have no way of knowing which are more likely to hit once you begin to bet. A number that's hit five times is just as likely to hit as a number that hasn't hit at all on future spins. If you were to bet on all of the numbers as they begin to show, and add a chip to each one each time they hit, then you'd still come up short in the long run. Yes, you'll get lucky from time to time in small samples, but over time you'll realize that there's one or two too many pockets on the wheel.

    If you'd like to see simulations of such an event over a relevant number of spins, then feel free to PM me and I can demonstrate it via a screen share on Skype... or I can just post the results here for you to study.

    Best of luck,

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone.
     
  9. John Blerg

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    I'm curious as to why you would say this? I've read the other board in question although I do not post there yet, I've communicated with Al and I'm just wondering have you actually gambled with him? I read a lot of stuff on that board and there's some deep psychology to it. I can't grasp it all but I've attempted to use some of it and to me it kind of makes sense. but I just don't know it all I don't have that much experience. I've done real good with extremely short-term wagering but everytime I try to play more than a few hands I start to lose. That's why I'm asking.
     
  10. RouletteGhost

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    Lol

    I love the completely misguided stabs he takes just to get a rise

    “Little more experience....”

    :D
     
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    Now I don't care who you are, that right there is funny ....
     
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  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's like I said before - If I challenge Tiger Woods to a round of golf - he says no...
    According to Sir Anyone he's a coward and scared.. in reality Woods wouldn't give me
    the time of day and rightfully so because I'm not talented enough for him to waste his
    time with me in some challenge I made up myself lol.
    S.A.'s "challenge" is no different. I've seen him play in person.
    I can't see anything to gain from meeting up again, unless he wants to insult me in person
    and I'd suggest against that.
    When someone like S.A. has such a giant ego and thinks they are somehow superior
    to everyone else, I guess that's just how they react - it's easier to accept things that way.
    I wasted too much time replying to him - it's quiet now thanks to the ignore feature lol.
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Ghost,

    Here's not as green as you are, but he's still inexperienced based on his comments and piss poor grasp of basic probability. Furthermore experienced gambler's don't argue that the gambler's fallacy is a fallacy. LOL!!!
     
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    My advise 'So you qanna be a Gambler ! BACCARAT , 246 pages By John Patrick , a professional fambler and author of 15 books on casino games. .

    Lively reading , no charts , . about $ 20.--


    Nathan Detroit .
     
  16. gizmotron

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    As far as all this crap about probability goes, if you look at a chart of results for 1000 spins of betting flat on Red only you will see just a few things that stand out. You will see being generally ground down at about the expected rate of say 2.7 toward the negative as expected. But you will also see steep declines and steep recoveries as you slowly slide down. It is possible for a smart player to avoid the steep and continuous declines with virtual bets and to bet heavier during the recovering inclines. There are best times to apply the "up & pull" tactics. There are best times to apply bigger flat bets. Now all this requires a skill to see good and bad stretches. SknowShit, Caleb, or known here as Dr Sir would say that you can't know when you are in a good patch or a bad patch. But he will have to admit that you are still losing the expected number of spins at or even worse than the probability that he so cherishes suggests that you must lose at. And this basic concept frightens him because he always runs away and never admits that it's a real existing result of common everyday results. Time to chicken out again Bub. This is how you shut him down. He has never had an answer that makes sense to this basic concept. All he has ever offered in the past 12 years is that you can't know the future. He never deals with the consideration for the current conditions and what is happening now. But you all watch him try to squirm out of this. I believe the standard objection is that "past spins can't predict future outcomes." It's his standard method of not dealing with the facts. That safety zone he stays in makes Snowman the first snowflake. It's so very easy to make him look at what he is afraid to see too. Probability supports the facts.
     
  17. Sharptracker

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    The main thing with randomness is that you cannot know when and how it will manifest... it's not complicated! there's a difference between what reality at the end is and what you think you're able to do because of deja vu (that you can easily remember because you won, or because you decided to focus on it so you'll notice it)

    And again and again, if someone is able to predict randomness, he really should expose it and try to get a nobel price and write history or he should play a game where the pay out is much bigger...
     
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    When are you clowns going to admit to yourself that I'm not claiming an ability to predict anything in the future? You only want to make your subjective thought wrapped around "predictions." I agree completely and stipulate it as fact. No prediction is being used to see current conditions.

    Now just how can a person notice the current conditions and react to them effectively? Give me your best guess on that question. Because that is the real objective question to be dealt with if you are done playing with your straw-man's underwear. Try critical thinking on for size. Or chicken out as others have for the past 12 years.
     
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    This stuff here is nothing. I'm talking politics at R30.....holy s**t !!!!!! (lol)
     
  20. Sharptracker

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    If it's about randomness only, there s no conditions at all. Whatever happened previously, it cannot allow you to react with the right or wrong way (as nobody knows how and when) and whatever you do for example on EC there's always 1/2 + ¨0 taxe.

    Your motivation is based on the dream to make money easily with no effort. Gambler 's beliefs are based on past result they had and they modify the way they re playing according to the results, everytime they've been smoked... while in fact they should just focus on the edge and way to obtain it, explain it.
     
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