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Roulette It's insane ! It's all a fallacy !

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    how do you attach a text file?
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Ok, here you go. Single zero, live wheel.

    1000 spins.
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  3. BlueAngel

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    27 From number 27 the ball moves to 21, the ball moved 31 pockets in CW direction
    21 From number 21 we count 31 pockets in CW direction and find number 26 which have not hit
    The numbers 21 and 27 are being connected with the last spun number 21 by 0 and 6 distances respectively.
    Since distances 0 and 6 have not occur yet, the numbers 21 and 27 are being included in the bet selection.
    18 From number 21 the ball moves to 18, the ball moved 24 pockets in CW direction.
    From number 18 we count 24 and 31 pockets in CW direction and find numbers 8 and 1 respectively, which have not hit.
    The numbers 21,27 and 18 are being connected with the last spun number 18 by 0, 13 and 19 distances respectively.
    Since distances 0, 13 and 19 have not occur yet, the numbers 21,18 and 27 are being included in the bet selection.

    BETS: 21,26,27
    BETS: 1,8,18,21,27
    8 win 28 units and restart process from scratch
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  4. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    Now you can do the rest, it's already late and have to get some rest.
    See you
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Blue,

    That's squirrely and it's random.
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    attach test:
     

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  7. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    Is this single 0 and live wheel?
     
  8. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    Here is your 1,000 spins, I've created a video on YouTube, enjoy!

     
  9. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    I cannot run your file because of its format.
    If you want to check it then remove the marks and the ECs lists first, just leave the numbers/results.
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It includes slot 37 and slot 38. My charting software automatically converts "0" to 37. So I converted Dr Sir's list where 37 was transformed to 38 before loading it into my software. It's 3000 spins that are 0 & 00. I did it to show a gazillion opportunities while bias might or might not exist, according to what Dr Sir might have to say about it. I have not looked at it yet. But I'll bet the global effect is there. I got some clown on another forum claiming he knew all about the global effect long before I suggested it. People get themselves into a spot and they just can't get out of it. I'll look at the file and point out the spin numbers where it occurs. During a global effect the casino is in the most vulnerable position that exists in gambling by a huge margin.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    OK, in my converted file you can see a swarm of repeats occurring from 2298 to spin 2429. That's a nice stretch of about 120 spins. You can see it if you know how to see it. So teach yourself. Or don't. I charge for this stuff. Or at least I did. Now it's even better to have my software. Can you imagine winning 80% of your even chance bets placed at the table maximum? I exposed this concept more than 12 years ago. It has gone nowhere. If you can get a 6% advantage from a bias wheel and become a millionaire then you should be able to destroy the casino with a 30% advantage when this occurs. There were hundreds of short term monster type opportunities along the way too. I just handed you the HG. Now reject it for good old fashioned sake. I'm used to it. I never put it out there this blatantly. It should be fun to watch what happens this time. I wonder if I just wrecked it all. Should be interesting.

    Now it's time for a retard festival. I know this would die at R30.
     
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    It's Dr. Sir's first list. You have it already. I just ran it to show reading randomness with what I expect to be real spins.
     
  13. lemonade

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    A 1300 unit drawdown is pretty rough, so hope you have deeps pockets and high table limits. Spreading your bets across more and more numbers acts a negative progression. Thanks for sharing though. That was interesting to watch.
     
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    If you want to judge then don't do it by your own standards...there is another very obvious fact which you have overlooked, 2,249 units net in 1,000 spins!
    What is 1,300 in front of 2,249?
    About 1,000 units short!
    Do you know many betting methods which exceed the risk AND spins by the profit?
    According to your reasoning something which has just 10 units draw-down and gains 2 units is better! HA, what a joke!

    Get a grip man and give me a fucking break!
     
  15. Mako

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    Agree, nothing is free. Even Turbo's repeater method require a large BR if using the 1/5/25 variant, and Ken has said with his own latest/final method of play that losses can and do happen.

    Very few have ever claimed to have a method of play that can be flatbet, limitlessly, and profit each and every single sitdown.

    Good video BA, thanks for the effort. Would be curious to see more runs.
     
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    The drawdown was at the beginning so you would've never made it to your profit. Are you telling me you would've sat through that? Give ME a break!
     
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    If he "sat" for say 200 spins a day, how many days went by before he got back to even after that drawdown? Any how many before he turned a profit?

    If you know what to expect for how you play, if you're aware of how any given session can go, then you're not worried about short term variance.

    I'm not saying that's the case here with this particular method of play, I have no experience with it. I'm saying that if BlueAngel has done dozens, or hundreds, of tests on his method then he's likely aware of what "could" happen in any given session of play...as well as what it would take in terms of time/sessions to recover/profit.
     
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    So I guess you're using a progression of some kind, right?
     
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    So you're basically saying he would never play this system because he knows its drawdown potential? No one is going to play through a 1300 unit loss. And this was just 1000 spins. That's nothing. I guarantee you that that's not the true maximum drawdown.

    I wasn't even trying to criticize him. I was just pointing out the obvious.
     
  20. Mako

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    I'm saying the opposite. If he knew that big drawdowns were to be expected, and are typically recovered from, then he would absolutely play it.

    If he had the data from 100x runs like the single run he posted, and knew where the typical limits were, then he would likely be confident in what to expect, good or bad.

    Progression bets aren't for everyone. To each their own.
     
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