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Weekend Trip update:
Well, it extended to this morning, so a 3.5 day trip instead.
Starting bankroll: 60 units
Goal: +180 units (3 sessions: +60u each)
1st night: 1st session: +60u in roughly 3 hrs. Seems like a long while ago so I forgot how it was achieved. I have the best mindset coming in, so probably my A game then. Just routinely and patiently waiting for my preferred hands WHEN they were hitting.
2nd day: 2nd session: +60u in roughly 4.5 hrs. A little longer, but since I started the day early (after lunch), I still have the night to spend.
At this point I have: 60u original bankroll + 120u = 180u.

I decided to push further, completing my final +60u goal on the same day. Ended up spending another ~6 hrs on this, up and down pretty much, until the very last hand when I was still up +90u for the trip, decided to do a 30u bet to get back to +120u starting the day. A natural 9 against my face.
Down to +60u for trip.
Went up to the casino hotel and called it a night. Talking about the hotel, for the longest time, whenever I stayed at the comped rooms, I almost ALWAYS lose the trip. (maybe 98% of the time, because I ended up: 1. Playing too long. 2. Playing too early, right after getting up from bed with mind not cleared yet from the long nights before).
So for the last 3-4 months, I chose to pay out of pocket for nearby hotels...until this trip when the host reached out to me offering me room, plus nearby hotel prices came way up during this Spring break time, so I took the offer....
Would it be different this trip? We shall see...

3nd day: Waking up with a very clouded mind (2 long nights in a roll), I have a nice but quick lunch. Then right back at it, try to finish my trip goal, with a return flight looming in the evening. Have 120u at this point.
Used 40u to start the day: up a little bit, but rushed and lost all 40u. Took an hour break, feeling bad phase is coming...
Used 2nd 40u: This is worse, gone in 30'. Took a 30' break, knowing fully well that this is it. I won't make this trip goal with the fatigue setting in.
Used 3nd and final 40u: Gone in 1 hr.
In the process: Rescheduled my flight, extended the room. Huhm huhm.... bad combination there.
SO... NOPE, the comped room served me wrong again. The casino probably knew my trend there, they pretty much offered me everything as my units are BIG now.

I just got back this morning. This mini report is just a reality of a gambler (amateur at best, base on above report? lol)...
haha I can't wait for the criticisms here...

No casino hotel for me next trip. I'll head out in a week or two, will write reports again.
Cheers!

 

I know the feeling well, depressed a bit and packing after an unsuccessful trip. Don't beat yourself up too bad. Judging from your past success, you will get it back.

The comps I always considered part of my return on investment. Free room, food, free chips to bet, often gifts and shows if I wanted them. It was always great to have free everything and walk away with a couple thousand in profit as well.

 

No criticism here regarding your play; I'm quite certain that you know very well what you did right and what you might've done wrong on this trip. The importance becomes in the over-all experience and how you might want to correct anything you feel that you could've done better.

All of us....every single one of us....are constantly trying to improve our game regardless the prior successes and/or failures, so, in that regard, you're in good company, my friend.

Oh, and it simply must be said: I love your honesty. I posted weekly trip reports for years in some of these forums, and, Goodness knows, I've read hundreds of them over the years. That said, yes, I can tell the difference between, shall I say....fact vs fiction.

I'm sure I speak for all my fellow forum members when I thank you for your trip report and its rather refreshing and candid honesty. Be well.

 

hi PlaytoWin, like gr8player said i love your honestly as well and see that you showed lots of courage putting yourself and your play in the open . I wish you the best, truly.
I am a little concern however that from your very first post and how you were approaching your method that very, very slowly you have slid a little too much from your original idea and standards. just a friendly reminder as we are all here to support one another.
I recall how conservative and stricked you were on win goal of just a few units,ect.... and I am all for "improving" and "inovation" ,but I have made that mistake in the past and it came back full circle biting me in the As.....
I see that your unit is much bigger now and you may want to push the pause button and just take a bigger look at your game, and or even more important if you might be sliding back into what took you down as you shared in your very first post about discipline.
I know that what ever demons or bad habits we seem to have conquer in our lives they can slowly creep back into our souls.
and then it is "another lesson" we re-learned again.
that is why when we place new strings on a guitar we have to re-tune it the day after and after, because they slide back in their original positions just like we do. I still struggle with bad habits to this day and have to re-tune myself often, but the good thing is now that I am a little older i am much more aware of my weaknesses.
you came a long way brother and I cheer for your success, Lord knows what a giant we are fighting with, so you stay safe and good luck to you.
Rinad

 

Hi Rinad,
I really appreciate your post. To me this is the most direct, friendly reminder and advice that I rarely see in a forum like this. So again, I appreciate you for it.
Yes I've come a long way, and it's not always the best to be honest. The recent style I choose, or fall back into, is a more rocky path. Almost back to the old days' habits.
Mixing in with business trips, I realized that I've stayed longer on trips, sometimes turning it into a casino trip, which is not a good sign.
I'm still able to be discipline and patient to build a bankroll up, but once up I'm a little over cocky, or may I say, greedy to push it a little too much. Which in turn like you said bite me in the a.. , which seems to happen my very last 2 trips.
The "any win is a win" and walked out discipline when I first started this thread seems to be gone.
Recently I have these "wholly number" goals which I don't think is a good idea. Let just say I have a 180u goal coming in, getting to 150u and get stuck there for awhile.... I could have walked there and still made it a VERY successful trip, but I chose to complete my wholly goal instead and therefore get doomed b/c of it.
Thanks for the reminder, I think I may have to switch it back to a more discipline "any win is a win" and only stay on shorter trips, maybe 1.5 days max. And no nights at the casino hotel.
I plan to be back this coming weekend. Will update you on it.
I'll be honest and let you know how it goes, whether I can accomplish what I've just said above. Stay tuned...

P/S Btw, I play guitar too and still do every one in awhile, so your reference was spot on as well. Cheers, rock on Rinad.

 

Thank you. This is really good advice. You wouldn't have done it if you don't care.

 

This is one of the best threads on the Baccarat forum, I was reading it over Christmas and I think it's worth bringing it up back up again just to highlight it and say if you have not read it, then maybe you should.

Why? Because there are some real savvy players in this thread getting down to to some real Baccarat discussion instead of a lot of the usual BS you find on a lot of threads.

Props to Play2Win for starting it and especially N.D. Punkcity and Jimske for their contributions.

Punkcity said that doing what he does, he knows the shoe mostly chops as a shoe/session.

ND talked about 'Frank Barstow' and diminishing probabilities.

Jimske talked about how he likes to see how the singles are performing.

I forgot Gizmo who then mentioned how it all ties in with his Reading Randomness studies.

You can get everything you need from this very thread guys and that's 100% the truth.

 

Now all we need is a few of the “Dave Hesters” to come in and ruin this thread for us

 

Cảm ơn. Tối nay tôi sẽ dành thời gian để đọc lại toàn bộ chủ đề này. và tôi sẽ đáp lại những gì tôi cảm nhận qua việc đọc chủ đề này. Cảm ơn.

 

Query, does it make any sense-logical in any way, shape or form to anyone that you would set a win goal equivalent to 300%!!!! of yer banks-roll, hey hey????

 

I get what your saying! It's asking a bit much expecting +60, +60 and +60 from three sessions.
When you are up the +120, you surely have to be protecting some of those winnings and go home a winner IMO.

We don't have Casino Resorts here in the UK and you don't get comps. Maybe that's not such a bad thing because Play2Win fell into the trap on that particular visit.

 

Tôi đã đọc xong toàn bộ nội dung của chủ đề này. Chủ đề thì hay nhưng cái kết không hay. Không có đúng hay sai. Theo tôi, với phương pháp cá cược của mình bạn nên tuân theo:
1. mục tiêu hàng giờ, ví dụ: 1 giờ, 2 giờ mỗi lần đặt cược sẽ tốt hơn cho bạn.
2. Mục tiêu cố định, tôi nghĩ cuối chuyến đi/hoặc cuối tháng sẽ có lãi.
3. nếu có thể, hãy thêm nhiều phiên phục hồi nhỏ giữa chuỗi thua lỗ kéo dài của bạn. Chắc chắn bạn sẽ thành công hơn. làm chậm tốc độ của trò chơi. Theo pp, nếu trong 5 lần đặt cược bạn không thắng được 3 lần đặt cược thì không được tăng số tiền đặt cược vì bất kỳ lý do gì.
4. Tôi nghĩ cá cược bậc thang sẽ tốt hơn cho bạn. Nếu không đúng xin bỏ qua.
Đó chỉ là những suy nghĩ của tôi. Mong đóng góp được chút ít cho diễn đàn. May mắn!

 

Ty

Please type in English. 99% of the people here don't know what your posting.

 

From Duongban 1984,

I have finished reading the entire content of this topic. The theme is good but the ending is not good. There is no right or wrong. In my opinion, with your betting method you should follow:
1. Hourly goals, e.g. 1 hour, 2 hours per bet will be better for you.
2. Fixed goals, I think the end of the trip and/or the end of the month will be profitable.
3. If possible, add more small recovery sessions between your extended losing streak. Surely you will be more successful. slows down the speed of the game. According to pp, if for 5 times you don't win 3 bets, you can't increase your bet amount for any reason.
4. I think ladder betting is better for you. If this is not true, please ignore it.
Those are just my thoughts. Looking forward to contributing a little to the forum. Fortunate!

 

Setting win goal and stops=loss point is silly to begin with and setting a win goal what is 300% of yer total roll is coconut city, hey hey!!!!

 

Thank you for your help!

 

Great overall read!!!! It would be wonderful to hear an update from Play2Win (it's about to be January 1st, 2024!!). As a professional trader myself (Index Futures), I too struggled in the beginning with many of the same game theory structural issues you encountered in Baccarat. I have played baccarat successfully for a few years, but not as disciplined as your structured approach with the low-controlled bankroll, stop loss per trip, and very defined bet selection and money management rules. I appreciate your openness on this forum and would love to hear about your most recent journeys if you have had any. Here is some feedback... When you leverage your disciplined approach, you're making good progress, but I think limiting the sessions to 3 or 4 hours and letting the game come to you as normal should help. This should allow you to stay in your optimal performance zone without overdoing it. Also, having just 2-3 sessions per trip, win or lose, would benefit you because you seem to make poorer decisions after many hours of play due to fatigue from what I can gather. Additionally, a goal of 300% is too ambitious for one trip in my opinion. I believe 60-100% of your bankroll is more realistic for long-term results. You have a gift for illustrating your journey and you're very close to perfecting your approach. Please continue to share insights so we can support it, and it would allow us all to "Play to Win" as well.

 

Thank you for this detailed post I’m reading thru this thread and I finally decided to make an account.

 

Lol your blunt responses. a stop loss is not a bad idea. When you think back to your biggest losses from your career. Those losses occur during a short stretch or short time of span. Stop loss is there to prevent disaster ie breaking your entire bk in one session. From my experience it’s a lot easier to make up a smaller loss than blowing your entire load in a few bad moments in a session