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Baccarat I've found a way to consistently win in Baccarat...ENJOY!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Play2Win, Apr 17, 2020.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The "Method" is right there in the opening paragraph

    There are more like this around . More can be found in hard cover books written by experienced gamblers .
     
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  2. Play2Win

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    Post #3
    Good Replies Count: 2 (I liked those).
    As I've promised I'll share my Bet Selection once I have at least 10 "good" replies. It's just personal reference, don't take anything away from it. I still appreciate other encouraging and anticipating posts the same.
    I also plan to post once a day (~10 total maybe) to share my experiences...
    Some clarifications to your comments and "spoilers" revealed:
    1) "System": I'm sorry to disappointment you here. I DON'T have a system to share. No mechanical systems can work 100% of the time. If there are, casinos certainly will find ways to break them. I can ensure you that.
    Spoiler: I instead have a customized "Style Of Play", one that has repeatedly proven to be successful for ME. (It actually accounted for 60-70% of my past winning sessions, even before this recent 46 "redemption" trips. I was just so arrogant and become too cocky to get away from my winning ways).
    2) "Outside the box": I think my "style of play" qualifies, to a decent extent. I've read quite a bit of baccarat forums, and so far haven't seen it mentioned anywhere (Maybe there is I'm just not aware).
    Spoiler: I'm SURE most if not all of us have used that "style of way" at some point already. But not frequently. You know it's effective, but like me maybe not frequently because it's a unique way. It's hard to implement because it takes discipline+patience and a lot of overall awareness.
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    Biggest spoiler: My last 3 trips (trip#44 - trip#46), I actually increased my Trip Bankroll to 10 Units ($1000). My Win Goal is 20 units (yes, that's right. and LUCKY enough to achieve them all 3 times).
    Why? By trip 30 or so, I felt that I already regain my confidence, self-discipline. Also, it seems that my weird "Style of Play" is working (finger cross). Because my Overall loss is so great, I have to recoup it for many reasons.
    How? I created and followed a betting Sequence. (All for the purpose of achieving +20 units)
    -Still using my "style of play", if at any point I'm up some units, I immediately follow:
    If +1, my next 5 bets will be: 1-2-4-8-5. (to achieve +20 units)
    If +2, my next 4 bets will be: 2-4-8-5.
    If +3, my next 3 bets will be: 3-6-9.
    If +4, my next 3 bets will be: 4-8-5.
    If +5, my next 2 bets will be: 5-11.
    Now here is when some "judgement" calls needed to be made, you must have a feel on your current Winning rate and mix&match your sequence selection. (For ex, if you seem to be winning 3 consecutive hands...then pick either 3-6-9 or 4-8-5 sequence.)
    KEY: You only apply the sequence betting when you're UP from your 10 original bankroll units. If you lost your sequence bet, you HAVE TO come back to your flat betting (1 unit) and careful playing before you're on the + again. Then you can re-apply the Sequence betting. See my point? Using House Money to win +20 units on limited bets.
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    That's it for today post. I'm waiting for more "share your experience" replies, or directly discussing about my post.... to the point.
    ENJOY!
     
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  3. Play2Win

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    Post 3 (cont.)

    Fyi. For Trips 44-46, I only counted those as +5 days in my Post 2's trip report. I didn't want to confuse you guys then of this Units Increase and Sequence Betting. That'd be too long a post. (-->Total Result of 46 trips: +123 units)

    Key notes of the Sequence Betting that I just started implementing (before Covid):
    1) I repeatedly lost the 4th or 5th bets when I applied the first two sequences.
    All three times I achieved +20 units by doing the 3-bets:
    -When I was up +3 or +4 units, I won either by 3-6-9 or 4-8-5.
    Note: One time after the 1st attempt, two other times after repeatedly attempts.
    I haven't tried 5-11 yet, but winning 2 bets in a row should be easier than winning 3 in a row.
    2) These bets DON'T have to be consecutive bets. (More on that later on Bet Selection)
     
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  4. soxfan

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    If ya got a real winning style then you just need to be able to deal with shorts term adversity. Most cats can't deal with shorts term progressions bust, downdraws and that's why most cats ain't gonna win even if ya give em a winning style on the silver platter! If ya got a real wining style then ya just gotta bulldog yer way through shorts term adversity knowing that long term yer gonna put so many units profits in yer pocket for each shoe ya grind out. It ain't rocket science, baby, hey hey.
     
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  5. fathead

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    3-6-9 ... hmmm
     

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  6. Phillip

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    Thank You so far Play2Win.
    ..
     
  7. Ravinderchawla

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    If u are winning more often than not,though u have to grin
    Waiting for ur BS method, & I hope u have got quite a few positive replies/ comments, as seen in the thread, till now,thanks
     
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  8. Play2Win

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    Post #4 Bet Selection & Money Management

    I think I should have titled this thread: "How to redeem yourself after a horrendous losing streak", because that's exactly what it is. Or even "Baccarat for losers".
    I have to confess that I've lost a large sum since taking on Baccarat. All my wits, patience, and discipline when playing Poker just slowly evaporated away... I turned into a degen Bac player without even knowing it.
    At the end I came to realize that: My Bet Selection might be bad, but my Money Management was even worse.
    So I made a conscious effort to correct it.

    Money Management: (Please re-read my 1st post to know about my "method" of betting)
    -I choose to come in with minimal session buy-in now: 5 units and recently 10 units.
    Reason is I want to make sure that I HAVE TO be extremely picky about placing my 1-unit flat bets. I need to pick the BEST POSSIBLE bet placement there is (of course even so it's still 50/50, but in my book those are 55-60% winning bets).
    -Philosophy is: If I bet ALL five 1-units on personal favorite hands and still lost, then let it be. NO NEED to waste long hours at the casino anymore.

    So far about 70% of my five 1-unit bets have constantly provide results of +1, mixing in a few +3 right away.
    I rarely faced -3 or -5 after any five bets; while -1 turned out a bit more often.
    Since my goal is +3 unit and leave, I usually bet an average of 15-25 hands and that's it.
    So far so good.

    Advice for fellow "losers" out there:
    You HAVE to always be aware/conscious of money management. Whatever your method is, PLEASE do not forget to have a good "sense" of your at-play session bankroll. The moment you lose track of that, next thing you know you're 30%, 50% deep into your bankroll and most of the time can't recover from it.
    (Most of us regular players would show up at casino, first hour or so playing extremely careful, weighting our bets. Then after a few swings (up and down) we start to forget everything about whatever money management method we thought about on our way driving there)….. This story never ends, sadly.
    ----> And the solution (at least for me) for that problem is: If I play best at my first 1 hour or two, then that's ALL I'm going to play. Limited bets, win or lose, GET OUT.
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    Now fast forward to my last few trips of bringing 10 units with me. I executed the same Game Plan:
    -Choosing my favorite hands to place 1-unit bets, if at any point I'm on the Plus....I will execute my Sequence Bets (see Post #3).
    -Goal is still the same: Limit hands played, if lucky then hit my +20 units Win Limit.
    -For this you'd spend longer time, because more often than not, your Sequence Bets will bust. But hey, it's OK. Harder goal harder reach.
    -Just reset, come back to your original plan: careful 1-unit flat betting again until get on the Plus, then Retry.
    So far so good for me too: 3/3 times I reached my goal.

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    For next Post I'll share my Bet Selection. No point to wait for "good replies" anymore. Thought I could strike up a good thread for everyone to share their experiences, but I guess without talking about Bet Selection it's hardly anything to discuss about.
    Cheers,
    What do you guys think so far of my limited 1-unit flat-betting strategies?
     
  9. Phillip

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    Still reading
    and
    Eager to ........
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    Play2Win

    I for one applaud you for taking the time to share your experiences. I think it takes some stones to come onto a board like this knowing that you will likely get flamed for some. I am pleased that this has only come to a minimum. A lot of people come on here like you and ultimately are looking to be paid. Kudos to you for trying to help all baccarat players.

    I look forward to your next response. I’m sure we can all have a healthy discussion about the pros and cons after the strategy has all been tied together.

    Again, thank you for your generous nature. Continued success to you!
     
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    I truly enjoy these types of threads. They always seem to be real stories from real people with real “methodologies” not systems. And they make me think that I can do this too someday.

    And 1 unit flat betting is the ultimate way to go IMHO.
     
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  13. jbs

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    Methods and systems are EXACTLY the same thing!

    You won't do it "someday" either just as none of these other fools are today!
     
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  14. Play2Win

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    Post #5 Baccarat for Losers

    I feel like I really need to squeeze one more post out before even talking about Bet Selection. Without these it really doesn't matter what else you do, you'd still lose...

    Advanced/Experienced Bac players: this might not be for you. You can skip!
    Losers: this IS for you.

    Do you currently:
    -borrow money to gamble?
    -lie to loved ones about gambling?
    -play with scared money? play with money you can't lose?
    -play with a very small bankroll, hoping to win big to pay debts or past-due bills?
    -can't stop until the last dollar lost?
    -play 12-24 hours straight, no sleep?
    -lost your job already?
    ….
    YOU NEED TO STOP. Just STOP!

    Next steps for you:
    -Come out: admit defeat, confess if you have to.
    -Self-ban yourself from ALL local casinos.
    -Try to arrange past-due bills to buy some time.
    -GET A JOB.
    -Spend at least one year, or two years working hard. Pay your debts.
    -Start building budget goals for different areas of needs. Fill up your budgets. (Have to consistently meet up these budgeting goals for at least 6 months to a year).

    When you filled up all your life essential budgets and still thinking about gambling?
    NOW you can save for a gambling budget. Build up a Bankroll (money you can lose)… and maybe give it another shot.
    (Best to just give up gambling altogether. But if you've come to really grow from it, then it might be ok to play again.)
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    Sorry for being off topic today. But after being at casinos for a long while, it just pains me to see MANY MANY of these players. They came from being good people, good players... into bad/horrible people, degen players... ADDICTS actually.
    Over the years I've known them, talked to them... some even become friends and know their stories. Just painful to watch...

    P/S I hope none of this thread's readers are that.

    NOW, let's talk about the real stuff....
     
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  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Richard,

    Who taught you the game of Baccarat and how to play it effectively ?
     
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    who is Richard if I can ask ?
     
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    Actually there are long term styles of play that are unbreakable but most cats ain't interested cuz it don't offer enough units profits, require a large bankroll and Zeus forbid actually require you to face short term adversity, hey hey.
     
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  20. Play2Win

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    Post #6 BS Part 1

    Each player has his own way of betting, or "style of play". Some are more offensive (betting more often, rely more on good Money Management to gain profits), while others might be more defensive (selective betting - mostly trending and rely more on good Bet Selection to gain profits). But for many long-term winning players, it must be a combination of BS + MM that propels them on top.
    While there are many styles of play, usually good for different portions of the shoe, for today I'll only discuss what I used for my "redemption" period. That is, 5 units session bankroll breaks into five 1-unit flat betting:

    It is what I called "Selective Trending" (not "outside of the box" yet, that might be in BS Part 2).
    Now let's define:
    "Trending": I think 95% of players if not more use some type of Trend betting. Mostly base on previous results.
    Many experienced posters mentioned about this already. It can be as simple as Banker/Player runs, or BPBP.
    Depends on how long you've played, you might have MANY more trends to go by, things like:
    -"Banker(s) has only go once." --> If Banker comes, bet on Player next.
    -"It's grouping now" --> bet on 2nd Banker/Player.
    -"Player never went pass 3" --> If Players go to 3, then bet Banker.
    ….. there are dozens of these depend on what you "believe" in.

    Now a little more advanced Trending/Triggers might include:
    -Analyzing Macau boards (google) and pick up Trends from there.
    -"Paced out" trends: must have patience for this. Some time must wait 10-15 hands to go by before you can bet.
    -Triggers: these require you to notice throughout the shoe to be able to pick up (different from shoe-to-shoe).
    …. (this is where it differentiates good players to average ones).
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    So what's "Selective Trending"?
    Since I only have 5 bets to make, it's simply mean I'm being extremely "selective" on my trend betting:
    Step 1) I'd observe a proven trend (run for at least 3-4 times already).
    Step 2) Then I also need to wait for a Virtual Win (the trend continues).
    Step 3) Now I'm ready to place that 1-unit bet, ONLY if my "gut" feeling is right up to the last minute.
    Note: Personal experience comes in greatly here. Each player has his own "favorite" plays that win more than not for him in the past.

    OK, so what's special about it because it still 50/50 anyway?
    YES, it's still 50/50. However, I BET on the fact that:
    In order for me to lose on my five 1-unit bets, at least 3 to 5 trends have to STOP on me (Trend busters).
    So far, that have not been the case. It's not often that I lose 4/5, and very rare that I'd lose 5/5 hands.
    Mostly it has been many more 3W/2L, fewer 2W/3L, some 4W/1L and occasionally 5W/0L.

    Tip:
    -On average a shoe would have about 4-6 trends that run more than 6 times (if you know what you're looking for).
    They don't happen often, so normally I would scan through 2-3 tables at a time, wait for the "optimal" hands to bet on.
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    Cheers.
    I'm not quite sure if I want to share Part 2...
     

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