Baccarat I've found a way to consistently win in Baccarat...ENJOY!

It’s fine. Poster Craps used to say that all bet selections will ultimately wind up back at EV, including advanced trending, and he’s right of course. But...combining favorable trends (which is just leveraging probability in your favor essentially), combined with smart, disciplined, and consistent MM, can put you in the winners circle at a surprising frequency.

As Soxfan says though, most people don’t have the discipline to leave emotion at the door and simply stick to their MM regardless of circumstance (up or down), and wind up putting themself in a make or break spot...and thus bust out despite probability being in their favor.

How you’re playing (as written) puts yourself in the best spot to succeed, nothing wrong with it so far.

Once we get to whatever voodoo triggers you’re using may change that though, “three times this, four times that, then bet” nonsense, etc, but so far what you’ve posted is a good guide for those who are uninitiated.

 

I think that we are talking about reliability here, meaning that the "biases" or "personality" of the game will maintain the same profile for a few more hands,spins,ect...which in my view is something real, something that i have lived in my whole gambling career.
even more so with card games. there could actualy be more then one type of trend that can be sustained during a game. hope you wont just post part of your method only or it wont do much good.

 

Playtowin, i thank you for sharing no matter what. I enjoy and love the fact that you have "picked"yourself up from losing in the past and made a turn. like you I have lived through a lot of bad years but cant live without the games.
God bless,
Rinad

 

Rinad, thanks for joining with some actual dialogue and comments about my posts. Yes for me, toward the tail end of my longgggg losing streak I was almost never able to start the sessions with my A game. And even with your A+ game, you're still only looking at a 50/50 chance of winning against the casino. I had to stop for a year, regained the balance of life by fulfilling other duties. Then I made a mental switch of treating gambling as a side business/hobby only, winning small but consistently is the key. I made my sessions very quick now and as few sessions as possible. In the next few months after this Covid-19 is over, I plan to just go twice/month and maybe 2 sessions each time. Of course I'll adjust my bankroll to reach Win Goal. Bottom line is after a good year away, I don't feel the urge to always play to chase my Overall Loss anymore. I treat this as a hobby now, even session loss doesn't falter me anymore.
As for my BS and especially "style of play", I do have a unique approach which I noticed have consistently won for me in the past (account for majority of my winning sessions). I simply come back to what I do best. Last few days I've come across other threads in this forum (reading experienced guys like gr8, Assumbac..) and even more so realized each one of us will develop our personal styles anyway. That's why I not so sure about sharing my unique style anymore (even though "Selective Trending" is still account for half of my BS).
Instead I'm thinking about doing some sorts of Trip Reports, more or less a Diary so I can reflect on my past play and hopefully, HOPEFULLY get some more of you guys to chime in constructive comments toward my progress. I'm not an accomplished player by any means, there are so many arsenals that I can add to my game. I'm looking to add in a skill every 3-4 trips or so. The first one might be how to ride a streak for example. (Now since I'm on strict BS, I left lot of $ on the table for not riding streaks.) How to play dominance side might be another.
But before going too fast too soon, I will still stick to my Bible now of winning Small & Consistently. Even small losses are acceptable. Within my 46 trips, of course I've had hiccups...I've more than a couple times reached my Goal early and decided to push further, those usually ended up in -3 and -5 sessions or extending the time to reach my Win Goal. However, I was able to quickly learn from that mistake and bounce right back to the right way the next trip.
When it comes to regular/long-time players, winning YOURSELF is a lot harder than anything else. And when you can bring your A+ game to the casino? Now you can have a chance...

 

if there is a reason to play a game of risk in my view is to not only learning about the game but mostly about yourself.
I would bet that 99.99% of all the players when they first began getting involve in gambling thought deep inside that they had what it took to beat the game. but then we realized that we were facing another enemy, ourselves.
and truly that has been a real challenge. but we who wanted to do better in terms of winning had to come to terms that we had a lot of personal issues with "self discipline". accepting that truth is not easy after years of "losing it" at the tables during certain times.
we have to be so "perfect" in a way because not like in a sport as if you mess-up you get eliminate or lose the game we can actually "extend" the game by hitting the ATM or getting deeper into our wallet. a real danger. one bad mistake and all of the hard work goes south. could you imagine in a game of basketball if a losing team had the power to go on overtime as long as they wanted to ? yes sometime they would come back and win from losses, BUT, if they were on tilt they would crash beyond measures and go so far down it would be a massacre. so the player has a big problem if he loses. he can keep going right there as long as he wants or has cash.
short sessions can puff-up some muscles and keep us from bad long streaks.
the biggest challenge for the player is to walk away losing. notice I did not said a loser. walking away after losing MAKES YOU A WINNER.
not been able to do that will make you a loser.
Rinad

 

—Sure have to agree with aspects of above post. I would say to each their own and at any one time all things will work until it no longer works. I understand hobby = release valve for non mental and emotional attachment to the units wagered ,nice semantics I like it. To my mind a player that has the ability to quit a shoe a few units down, walk away and know that they can recoup at a later stage has made a quantum leap in their psychological development.
-Have to agree again about developing the ability to press a extra percentage to your base betting unit once you get on a winning streak. Would suggest 10-20% add on to unit each win streak , rather than full unit add on (press). From experience I press once up in profit of couple of units, then only increase gradually for say four more win hands after I’ve got profit and I’m now on what appears to be a streak of two wins already, so on the seventh hand of streak I actually either let the highest bet ride until it loses or start peeling off 10% each further streak bet until it loses. It has to lose eventually
-To be an example, flat betting $100 = w, L , W,W,L,W,W. I’m up three units locked up two units profit. Continue with 1unit =W this the third W in a row maybe a streak start, so next bet 1unit plus 20%=120 W4, +20% of base unit again 140 W5, +20%\160W6, so now I decide let $160 ride or peel $20 off in anticipation of loss. If the 7th hand is a W, I will still chip down for bet 8, etc. This seems to work ok for me. I only flat betting so you may need to adjust to your bet unit size.
-I would have to say I enjoy your thread.
Cheers

 

I like your style Punkcity and the fact that you are giving yourself a compounding element is great.
do you ever apply a "let it ride" at times instead or regressing after the 7th bet win ?
I know that it may be prudent to 'safe guard" winnings but in the same way once in a while those long streaks can also create a monster win. risking a little to win a lot. i like to do both myself depending on where I am at with chips.
Regards
Rinad

 

Yes, but all them shorts term session combine gonna equal the "long run" that you buck up against during the course fo yer baccarats playin career, hey hey.

 

It's indeed depends on what you're looking at. It might not be consecutive hands, could be "paced out" trends. You also need to look at all boards. If you can provide me a screen shot of a completed shoe (all boards), then I'll point out to you on what I was looking for. Of course during the course of the shoe I can't always be able to detect that, that's why I mentioned I usually look at 2-3 tables at a time. Cheers.

 

Rinad, Punkcity...I like your posts and agree with many things that you both mentioned.
We as players spend a lot of time trying to find ways to beat the game. From BS, MM, "systems" … but some time the real evil is who we're looking at in the mirror. Each method will have its moment. There is no Right or Wrong if you can master them all and "LUCKY" enough to utilize them at the right time. But we all know that's impossible. So we'd really need to be honest with ourselves when it comes to gambling. We should be able to answer these questions: Who are you playing against? Is it for fun or for profit? Do you bring your A game? Do you know what you're doing? … I can go on & on but let's me stop there and change the subject lol I'm a little tipsy now so it might not make any sense haha
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How to play streak:
On the other hand, I'd like to ask you guys on your experiences playing streak. This should be where I make the most money but throughout my time playing Baccarat I've not really master it yet. 1-3-2-4? 1-3-2-6? 1-2-3-4..?
Also I have a bad habit of not getting on it from the beginning and then just sat through it...thinking it'd switch on me. I have not ever "risk 1 unit to win many".
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What about playing Dominance side (P or B):
Bet Selection of course should be on Dominance side, but what about Money Management?
Sometimes I just sat on those portions of the shoes, winning many hands but ended up Even or winning just a little. (Usually losing when I start to press, maybe waiting too long). While someone else on the same table making a bunch of money.
I guess back when I lost a lot of $, I was afraid and played scared... but now I do have a good Bankroll again, what do I do to master this skill?

Thanks in advance. Please share your real experiences on how you do it (MM and BS examples would be great)...​

 

I enjoy reading your posts, Play2win!

I struggled trying to find the best way to win baccarat consistently and finally I started to follow and use one of the strategies from Junking’s, (John).

I have been there done that with dominance and following patterns, etc., unfortunately my experiences were not producing consistent winning trips from those strategies. I have tried all kind of MM’s, only found out that limited martingale is suitable for me. Yes, Marty is very generous if we were to play like a robot and without a good bet selection. My approach is that if I lose my bankroll for the session, 57 units, I will go home. I used to lose 100x more than 57 units in my old days session so if I lose 57 this time, I will be ok. Each session, I strive to make 30 units so if I lose 57 units, I can make it back in two days or two sessions. I play at least two times a day. After I reach my goal, I go home. I will play again later that day. If I lose, I only play one session for the day. There is always tomorrow. Unfortunately with the Coronavirus lockdown, all casinos in my area are closed until further notice.

My point is that everyone has to find a way to win his or her games. I use random vs random. I read and re-read Junking’s threads until I came up with a consistent winning strategy. There are a lot more to just having a consistent winning strategy, and those you have spelled out already like being patient, disciplined and the rest, etc.

John, you are the king. Thank you for sharing your strategies and your advice. I am always grateful that you shared your strategies with us.

Stay safe and keep winning my fellow baccarat players!

 

Hello!

How many steps do you play on limited martingale? I'm using 4 steps but I'm getting many bust out and win target of 10 units.
Not really profitable doing this. Your thoughts.

Thanks,

 

PlaytoWin, I could not agree more with "finding your own path" because each one of us are wired differently.
I think going with the flow makes more sens because there is a "continuous timing" at play. in any game really.
our worst enemy is ' the fear of losing our previous winning".
it keeps us from going for the "jugular" during hot streaks.
when we first seat down we are playing often a different game then after we win a few units.
that to me is a problem.
we need to take risks at all times , good risks but never the less, if we play "not to lose" we have a problem.
how often have we seat down and won a lot of hands in a row, then thinking back we are thinking "boy i would of made a killing if I would of gone more agressive". but then it is too late.
questions for us should be. what would satisfy me as a player in term of wins ?
would i be happy winning a little each time I play?
would I be more happy not winning often but going for the big wins ?
no limits. most of us like the consistent wins but I do wonder if that is what get us into trouble.?
it makes us take risks early and not later if we make a profit.
in the business world the same thing. once you make a little profit each month in your store you become more preocupied with "keeping your customers and not losing them then you are taking risks.
i am not saying one is better then the other, but what is right for you ?
God bless,
Rinad

 

Post #7 Choosing the right table to play on

Today I'd like to share one of many personal experiences that has noticeably affected my winning/losing sessions. That is, choosing the right table to play on. If you've played as often and for longer period of times like I had in the past, you'd probably noticed it too. That is, playing on a winning or losing table will greatly affect your results, if you're not a strong player already.
Some losing table examples:
-Here you have a table of many "weak" players, usually half betting on 1 side, other half betting on the other side. Not much MM involved, mostly flat betting then bet bigger and bigger to chase loses. They take turn winning/losing. This is Casino heaven, as they'll slowly eating into all players' bankroll via commissions.
-A table with all losing, cussing players with a "bad vibe" all around. Or a table with dead silent, depressing because of the losses.
-A table with a single or two big bettors, keep on losing but others still follow suit or stay out because of their big bet sizes.
Note: You see these types of tables frequently in local, smaller casinos because of not enough traffic and talent. It's very hard for you to win when playing in these tables unless you're a strong player with a proven BS or strategy.

Some winning table examples:​

-Everyone get on a winning streak together, cheering, high-fiving all around. Everyone have a good time betting and win together.
-Have a few strong players, obviously know what they're doing by BS, MM, calm and play with a strategy. They'll lose hands but will win more than fair share of hands as well. When they lose they'll make up for it by smart MM.
-Someone will get on a hot streak, winning consecutively and everyone else follow suit.
Note: Can see these anywhere at any given time but mostly at bigger casinos where the "real" actions happen.

Now if you're a new/inexperienced player, which type of table do you want to be a part of? The answer is rather obvious.​

Few questions to think about: ​

Do you only focus on your game, "hook" into board watching without paying much attention to what's happening around you?
Would you consider yourself a good or weak player?
Can you recall any moment of those "good" and "bad" tables that I've mentioned above? How were your results then?
Please share your experiences.... I'd love to hear them.
Until next time ------->>​

 

—Hmmm not sure I would quite agree with you here. To me this is another example of the dreaded gambler fallacy. The table or the player, time of day or any other reason has zero effect on the result of the shoe. The hand just witnessed by everyone or no one is exactly the same result of banker or player. The shoe is pre shuffle and lock up in the coup the result is not infullenced , cannot change halfway through a card draw because someone was negative.
— I can illustrate this with a roulette example. This guy Joe I know only played roulette on live dealer stadium play. He would bet his number and lose, and , lose , and lose. etc. He would get so angry calling the casino cheating that it would never land on his number. I pointed out to him a major screen at the casino showing EVERY bet placed on that table at the start of the spin and the number/colour etc payed. Every single position of that table was covered not a single piece of space was left not bet upon. I told him if it was rigged why did so many other people win. He could never answer me , even after I explain he just made the wrong choice, years later same [removed, pay to advertise] same.
—It doesn’t matter the attitude at the table, you just chose wrong. If everyone is losing including yourself maybe you are just following what everyone else is doing . That is what most people do, I have read here and elsewhere and also played with people that claim because I bet contrary to them this next hand that I’m going AGAINST the table. Sozz that’s crap , cards set already . If you’re playing $2000 a hand and I drop $500 bet opposite them everyone screaming. Nothing changes I just happen to have a different selection strategy that I employ. I can win on those tables you described but others cannot, some days I lose also and others win. Mind you I don’t play table anymore because it takes to long for me to achieve the results I want, on the stadium faster and no one crying I changed the run of the table. Like I give a damm
— If you’re playing table, development of own game selections is critical if you’re swayed by other people and their decisions and you bet their way not yours, YOU had better stop PEROD .
END OF DISCUSSION.
—If you continue your playing the casino preferred way. What you are saying is contrary to your thread title. You cannot Consistently win if you’re Consistently adhering to any aspect of the gamblers fallacy. No player doesn’t have to catch up, No banker doesn’t always win. No banker or player never goes longer than X times. No No No. Apart from a RNG dealt game from some crockpot online casino site , nothing is influencing the cards.
—Your thread was showing promise and it is still refreshing that it generated some good positive posts. But, and this my pet peeve ,ones OWN attitude is the only attitude that should influence YOUR own selection strategy, accept your own responsibility if you’re right or wrong . It’s really lame to hear someone say I lost because the table was all betting banker and my selection criteria said I should bet player but I bet bank and now I have lost my bankroll etc , lame lame give it up. This is my opinion.
I only flat bet until I get on a ‘perceived streak of wins’ then I increase my bets sometimes by a marginal percentage , I’m realistically betting as it will lose but I’m making some profit in the meantime regardless of what happens at the table.
Cheers

 

None of that matters.

MDawg and action junkies will disagree, and that’s fine, a table can be fun or boring for sure, but it doesn’t (and shouldn’t) impact the net bottom line.

 

in blackjack it sure can make a difference when players get happy because more often then not the dealer is breaking more then normal and the way the cards fail make it happen . I use to scout myself for hot tables and even know someone could argue that once you join a table it will change everything it often does not.
baccarat being different I also could argue that perhaps if players win a lot it could also be that the streaks are easy to read and therefore it can be a great asset. even a average player who sees long runs that are not interupted by all bunch of singles could be tempted to join the "gravy train" and win.
there are pros and cons in both ideas I think. I sure would rather join a happy table then a quiet one but at the same time if a player has great experience he will adapt to 90% of the tables.
sometime predetermine rules can actually hurt you because we dont follow what is happening right now.
Regards
Rinad

 

I respect your opinions. As I have pointed out by repeatedly saying "if you're not a strong player already", "unless you're a strong player with a proven BS or strategy".. I agree with you that if you're a good/accomplished player, none of the mentioned good/bad table examples will affect you. You can just go on to play the style you know best, cards are set like you've stated, won't sway you one way or another. You might even prefer to play by yourself (faster game).
My post was intended for "Now if you're a new/inexperienced player", those that have weak BS and/or no MM skills. They'd need all the helps they can get.

My last few posts and maybe a few others coming, would primarily focus on providing the extra "edges" that a player can equip himself with on the battle with the casino. You see, as a losing player who's making a strong return, I need to equip myself with multiple "weapons" along with many self-correction measures (self discipline, patience, tight MM...).
Even though it might now seems irrelevant to my Thread title of "found a way to consistently winning", you can wait for a few more posts then maybe they'll add up together (hint blink blink).

However, I'm very open to posts like yours and others. I can always learn something from it, seeing a different perspective on how to play this game. Please keep them coming....Cheers!

 

Playtowin, yes I understand and I follow you line of thinking. As I said your thread is good for mostly positive information it’s generating.
- So maybe someone should start a thread about the many gamblers fallacies out there so the less experienced can save themselves a lot of downtime by circumnavigation of the herd mentality at a table. Just because they happened to win a couple of times because of the Crowd ( and as I’m an experienced player and have seen this sooooooo often) doesn’t mean next time they have a consistent winning method. The crowd is not a method, for all you newbie reading this.
—YES, on ODD occasions yes the crowd seems to be right no matter what the shoe is doing(happens)and if you can recognise it early and YOUR at a Profit already , sure for fun play with the crowd. I agree a Happy table is fun , I have played for the comradeship, but I would not rely on that to make a profit.
-Still look forward to more of your posts.
Cheers