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Baccarat I've found a way to consistently win in Baccarat...ENJOY!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Play2Win, Apr 17, 2020.

  1. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity New Member

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    If you have a workable strategy you could write a book about it, I wrote about six baccarat books. The 'golden secret baccarat winning strategy' book I wrote is a unique strategy and one of the best baccarat strategies out there.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    ONE page covers Baccarat well. Yawn .
     
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  3. jbs

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    Your books, if there are any, are worthless garbage best suited for a bonfire.
     
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  4. cluedupcity

    cluedupcity New Member

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    Judging by your previous comments I'm not surprised at your views. You sound like someone who is drunk at 3am who has lost the night before and someone who doesn't like to tip a waitress. I really don't know why some people bother to comment on gambling forums...everything worthless garbage, all doom and loom, no ways to win, bah humbug!
     
  5. Punkcity

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    Dud, start your own thread, you have nothing of relevance to this thread. If your shit smells so good start your own thread , your like a dog pissing on a tree after other dogs have had a piss. And your squirting blanks by the way. This is play2win thread about his shit, wether you agree with him or not about his posts is not the point here, you are promoting your own brand of toilet paper and most people have horded enough rolls by now so no one is buying, open your own thread.

    And the word dud is not a typo.
     
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  6. Play2Win

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    Trip #4 Report

    What a wild ride this session is.
    Session bankroll: 19 units. Goal: +20 and since I have some extra time, want to push my luck to see how far I can get.
    Saturday night, so busy. Can't get to choose a table of choice. I started at a table that's so hard to have a read on. Not even preferred BS hands to play with. Sat in for 30', bet like 4 hands, breaking even. Then a nearby table opened up, I switched over. On the very 1st hand there, I chose to do a 9 units bet. Yes, as stupid as that sounded, against all MM odds. And, you guessed it: I lost the hand. Now down to 10 units, here the battle begins. For some reasons I'm a little trigger happy with these bigger bets recently.
    So I buckled up, played my A game: patient, discipline with BS and MM. It got me back to even, then to +10, +20 … to +35. It was a mixture of good shoe plus opportunistic big betting. Won many 7, 8 unit bets. At this point I've decided to push to +50 as the session Win Stop. And...you've guessed it again. The downfall. First I lost a 5-unit hand, then another, then another... I then decided to do a 10-unit bet, LOST that one too. So now I'm down to +10, what should I do?
    At this point I was walking around the tables, thinking about the Pros and Cons of continue playing. Pros would be to at least get back to +35 to feel accomplished/satisfied. Cons would be of course, get busted. And that seems to be the case, considering how my luck and how "rushed" I've played the last 4 L hands IAR. So I decided to stop for the night. Reserving my +10 win.
    On my way home of course I've regretted giving back the 25 units, more so than feeling happy for my 10 unit win.
    But today as I write this report, I'm happy that I left, because otherwise I'd have get busted, a 54 unit swing (+35 to -19) and THAT would crush my morality and future sessions. Btw, I knew have I stayed, getting busted is almost 99% considering how my play at that point is (big bets on rushed, not so "preferred" hands).
    Rating: C- (a D for that 1st 9-unit start up bet, an A for majority of session, then a BIG F for those last 4 hands, an A for walking away)
    Notes: Playing in these limited capacity covid time bring out weirdness in me. Some bad "gambling" tendencies started forming. A long 2 month break really make me rusty and dull on my game. However, what I can have control over is how many sessions I play a month (4-5 times only) and also now I'm more result-driven than ever.
    Overall Result: +40 (after 4 trips)
    Still a nice supplementary side income, but a little underachieved.
    Looking forward to better days...
     
  7. Punkcity

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    Quote
    At this point I've decided to push to +50 as the session Win Stop. And...you've guessed it again. The downfall. First I lost a 5-unit hand, then another, then another... I then decided to do a 10-unit bet, LOST that one too. So now I'm down to +10, what should I do? Unquote.

    Close the thread and start a new one with a different title. Maybe something along the lines of " My baccarat few lucky and mostly unlucky plays" or " Enjoying my baccarat GAMBLING " perhaps "leaving vegas 4 or 5 times a month" all very credible thread titles.

    Continued good luck to you, and take care health wise as you mentioned the place was packed. What was the chip handling like ? Would appreciate an update on those instances if your inclined to post.

    Cheers
     
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  8. Play2Win

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    Chip handling: at the table it's the same as usual changing hands, nothing they can do there. Chips switching hands, not ideal but hard to do anything about it. At cage, they spray down after taking it in.
    New thread suggestion: I don't think it's "few lucky and mostly unlucky plays". It was simply b/c I wanted to mention bad hands (or turning point) rather than smooth sailing hands. But I agree with you that without new content this thread can be closed. I have a lot more materials to share, but after doing this for a little bit, I'm not sure if it's worth it to do it online anymore. At the end of the day, what works for you rarely work for others. The only things that seems to work for all are the intangibles/nuances that you CAN control. But people will be like: tell me your BS, tell me your MM... not the other extremely important aspects of gambling (self control, discipline, patience and the likes...) Cheers.
     
  9. Punkcity

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    Well your thread title is ambiguous and it suggests you are going to tell people your methods as per the posts on page one and two, then you say you will delay the information to be told to all later . I am and I’m sure others are interested in your posts but not under the misleading thread title. I think there is a definite place for posts of controlled methods of play as opposed to just dumb luck degenerate gambling practices as an example somebody posting about slots play ( not video poker play). I do appreciate your posts as you don’t sugarcoat what you are doing and I’m impressed by the reflections of the days event. Shows character and a willingness to learn and improve.

    A trip or field report diary , or a work in progress thread title perhaps ? I for one would be interested in the read as I have read some interesting posts from you on this thread and other threads. I also think that it is beneficial to yourself because as you relate your experiences you are also re educating yourself etc.

    Thanks for the re cap re the chips etc. maybe the casino thinks that the patrons are clean because they made it through the front door check and only the cash needs cleaning etc. Still a bit risky this early in my opinion.

    Cheers , I would still urge you to continue with your posts.
     
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  10. Play2Win

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    Post #9 The mindset change and other gambling intangibles

    Have you seen Kung Fu Panda 1? In there the Dad has all along mentioned to Po about a Secret Ingredient for his famous noodle soup. At the end, it turned out that he had NO secret ingredient... it's the mind/soul, effort, preparation and hard working behind the scene that has made him successful. How is this related to Baccarat play?
    If you're looking for a formula, a strategy, a fixed BS system... then you'll never get there, because NONE are proven to be successful over the test of time. So...how can one master (or think he has) the game and come out a >50% winner? (I do admire guys who claimed that they've achieved 53-54% BS. Based on their posts, I tend to believe them).
    I myself never track my W/L hand record so I wouldn't know. I have a different approach anyway. When I was at the lowest of the lows, I stopped for a year, enough to reflect back and come to realization "what have worked for me in the past" and chose to focus on that, rather than trying to create new systems, new strategies... And I realized my past success method is a little unique, comparing to other posters' methodologies (which I "might" share later). So... what other things have changed for me, to turn from a consistent degen/losing player to become a consistent winner?
    1) Knock out compulsive behaviors.
    2) Improve on Self Control (still an ongoing improvement): when/how-long/how-much to be in the game for, each session.
    I'm no longer mad/chasing loss when I'm involved in calculated risked hands. I accept those losses naturally and easily.
    3) Let the game come to you, play at your own comfort level.
    Reduce or keep stress at a contained, manageable level. Don't give in to "greed" and "addiction" monsters.
    4) Crave for continued success (winning) but ALWAYS have long term goal in mind (easier to accept short-term losses).
    5) Allocate winning $ wisely. Treat/cherish it as your own. Use it to fill other personal life budgets. In other words, DON'T add winning $ to your gambling bankroll, because sooner or later you'll get busted and all that profits, PLUS your initial investment will be GONE. That'd make you a long-term loser, no matter how many Session wins you've accumulated along the way.
    My solution for that is: I now have fixed/controlled session bankrolls (10 to 20 units each, depending on how I do the previous trip). I have a fixed 100 unit gambling bankroll, which I consider to be my Initial Investment contribution. If I'm above that mark after any session, I'll consider that Income and reserve it to spend elsewhere (personal expenses, savings...). If I'm below that mark, I'll try my best to recoup it using my remaining capital (to get back to 100 units). The key here is: DON'T chase it at all cost, especially NOT in the same trip or even in the next session.
    6) Continue learning the game (BS, MM)...gradually add more skills to your game. (How to identify and play certain sections of shoes...)
    This is where I'm a little stuck at, because I've not pick up anything substantial to grow from. I mostly revert back to What I Do Best. And I'm FINE with it for now, as long as I can keep on accumulating wins. (Borrow a Bruce Lee line here: "I don't afraid of a guy who practiced a thousand kicks, I afraid of a guy who practiced a Kick a thousand times"...something along those lines).

    Those are some of the transitioning changes in me. Do you, or have you, in the past went through some realization changes like that?
     
  11. Ezmark

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    @Play2Win . I liked your posts. Keep playing, learning, and posting.
     
  12. Ezmark

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    @clue..If a person has a winning baccarat
    method , I don't see a benefit of writing a book about it. If there's any substance to a book the casinos will only change the rules much like what happened with blackjack and Beat The Dealer. So , if you have a real winning method, just keep it to yourself and make thousands of dollars.
     
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  13. jbs

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    He doesn't have a winning strategy. There isn't any for baccarat save for counting side bets, edge sorting, or having some sort of knowledge of the card order.

    "Guessing" based on what won the last few hands or so is complete bullshit! Following trends, the board, or anything else they can concoct is also complete bullshit! Every one of those systems have been proven to not work. All these clowns on here do is talk a big game but NONE of them can back it up. End of story!
     
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  14. cluedupcity

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    Notwithstanding, identifying the likelihood of a forming pattern and/or the tail end of one gives a baccarat bettor a slight edge moreover when wagering bigger bets that the probability of the connection being made will occur. Though not 100% certain what the outcome will be, once a bettor sticks to a certain bet selection in those opportune hands, that narrow window, this gives him/her an edge for those hands over a bettor who takes a wider view or plays purely randomly. It's not "guessing" it's assessing the likelihood within a particular shoe being played in, and a bettor is able to identify also whether in that same shoe that strategy is working or not because some shoes afford the bettor a smoother run. In which case s/he can either increase wagers or decrease wagers. In the game of baccarat a bettor need not bet on every hand or wager the same amount of money each time s/he does place a bet. Also it has been proven that using a good strategy over players who do not increases the former player's chances of winning more money both in the short and long term but moreover in the latter. And this is true in most games including non gambling ones.
     
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    Arrrrgghhh, you trendings/guessings cats slay me, for serious, hey hey.
     
  16. Punkcity

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    Good post , something to think about.
    Cheers
     
  17. Play2Win

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    Nice post, I can't say this any better myself. To me there are only 2 main "methodologies" that this game involves around: either Random or Trending. One can choose to custom their game around either (no right or wrong).
    If you believe this game is completely Random, then you can choose Random to beat Random (plus timely MM). Meaning your BS can be as random as the outcomes are. I will not discuss this further as it's not my game. (Although I do believe you can win playing this way too).
    On the other spectrum, if you believe this game has patterns/trending on certain portions of a shoe, then your game can cater around those trending. I myself choose trending for the following beliefs/reasons:
    -Give me any 70-80 hand shoes, I can easily point out portions where there are Patterns and/or Biased (Dom). Keep in mind Patterns can be many forms depend on how you "see" it. <-- Patterns/Trending/Biased DO exist.
    This is the easy part because it's AFTER the fact. Point is: They DO exist.
    -The 2nd step (the harder part) is how to identify those portions early enough, as it's happening, and jump in before it's too late.
    Now when you choose to follow a trend, 2 things can happen:
    a) If you're hitting your preferred "trending" hands often enough, then adjust your bet sizes accordingly to your Hit Rate.
    If Hit Rate is good (like 3W to 1L or better), then increase your bet sizes. If 2W-1L, then keep same bet size....etc
    b) If you're NOT hitting your preferred "trending" hands at above 50% clip. Then you MUST accept that either:
    -It's NOT a trend that you thought it is. Then you must cease betting, waiting for next opportunity.
    -It might already be at the end of the trend (waiting too long). Also need to cease betting.

    So for me, at least I can control that:
    -If it's NOT a trend that I thought it is, I WILL lose a few hands (testing hands): Low Risk.
    -But if I'm lucky enough to be on a trend early on, I CAN win many hands: High Reward.

    So tell me, what's wrong with Trending?
    And also, what's wrong with Winning? Lol
     
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    May be you should write a book about Trending, price it high and sell it.
     
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    If you and other posters are serious about me writing a Bac book, then my answer is NO. I'm not an accomplished or well rounded enough player to be able to do that. As with many authors out there, I believe one/anyone who has been exposed enough to gambling can write "theories" about the game (their personal experiences). It is, however, the readers' responsibilities to learn the game on their own. In the heat of the battle, I afraid what someone read in a book is the last thing on their mind then. That's why casinos never afraid of going out of business, because there might be a few % of winning players, versus the rest of them (95%+) are losers.
     
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    July Challenge

    I'm committing to a personal challenge for this month:
    Trips: 5 trips (dates already set)
    Goal: +125 units
    Avg/trip: +25 units
    Trip bankroll: 15-20 units/trip
    Notes: I might not always get +25 units/trip, just +125 units at end of month would do. Hopefully first few trips are good so less stress on later trips. I'll write trip reports. And if I reach my Goal, by early August I'll share more on my "Selective Trending" and other things I do to get there.
    Let's join this ride together... Let's go.
     
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