Roulette I've seen a new absurd claim that the gambler's fallacy isn't.....

Giz
Funny how R-sim has given 1-3-5-7=16 over 40 spins. But it could be +/-


Do you think the top 3 is paying?

 

Giz
Repeats at 60 spins, 29; -1


The matches looks good but they are slow.

 

Gizmo
If chief Riddler gave some more riddles on staking members might get further.


120 spins
#36 woke up, but #10 looks like it's snoozing

 

What a load of shit. All I asked for was the average number of spins it takes for any number to repeat once you start tracking spins.

 

Lol , Well said. I dont understand why he doesn't get that .... and we don't need to win on every spin but we win at the end of our session ( which could be 30 , 40 , 50 , 60 ,...spins)

 

Did you find a way ?

 

Gizmo, you are better served with ONE hit on an EC (fully loaded)


MD

 

Yes. The evidence of positive edge is flatbet and win more the more you play.

The only way to the solution is to learn the proper math principles of prediction.

 

People that think outside the box, have my 100% attention.

I have no interest in the..... 2+2 will never = 5 people. Its like scolding me, water is wet.

Ken

 

Gizmo

I’ve shown you; my data says 1st repeat in spins 1-10.

Winkel has reference point spin 13, could have 2 repeats.

Luck of the Irish; show’s spin 8

Rheti says spin 7.3

Now the only way you’ll convince your self is to collect data and find the average for the 1st repeat.

Use 5 cycles of 37 like I did on Dr Sir’s live spins.

Oh yes, even Vaddi wants a repeat by spin 8.

Now you make trackers like in your reading random, so, should be no problem for you to find repeat is usually/average in spins 1-10.

That game with R-sim; I suppose R-sim knew I wanted repeats of 1-3-5-7-30.

You’re obviously like Mako can’t here the tree falling.

Here's Luck of the Irish info you lazy fcuker
This is a test I did in November. I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2 3210
3 6251
4 9017
5 10906
6 12398
7 12852
8 12454
9 11478
10 10007
The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.

 

Ok, I'll write another sim. Only I will use a repeat function that ends as soon as the first repeat occurs. I will take that number and include it in a list of results from 10,000 trials and average the number. I will also keep track of the worst interval before a repeat occurs. Might as well know where the sequence of death happens or is likely to happen.

I just wanted to know what the average number was. You use that as the standard for determining good patch or bad patch of a session.

 

I can see the bell shaped curve in those numbers. The average occurs between 5 and 12 with 2 being quick and around 15 being on the slow side but still a typical session.

Thank you. Yes, I got a lazy man's result that I was searching for. No need to write the sim now.

 

Guys, I've tested this with random numbers and BASIC programs and yes, the average number of spins before a repeat is between 7 and 8.
But no matter which way you bet the repeats, you lose in the long run. Because the spins can run to 20+. It doesn't matter if you bet 2x, 3x or whatever. It's similar to a martingale, it wins until it doesn't.
It's all been done!

 

So how do they get those magical graphs of winning?

 

Gizmo

I thought the idea of forums was to help fellow gamblers.

One should treat a forum as a library; but 99% is a waste of time. Probably information posted is likely to be trolling or scammer.

Take this forum’s top GLOAT; the Dr Sir, Sir. I knew of bias wheel before I knew anything about roulette. 50 years ago, my father told me about bias wheels, because an engineer had taken a casino to the cleaners.

Now if casinos knew this 50 years ago; don’t we expect the casino keeps the wheel maintained.

Now Turbo, the repeaters champion. Like you say gizmo he leaves riddles everywhere.

This advantage he’s championing. Can we follow the top 3 or maybe the top 7?

Yesterday I told you a repeat is more likely to happen in spins 1-10. Data gives over 40 spins in 4 blocks of 10 spins and let’s not forget the touted 1/37 spin; repeats show as 1-3-5-7=16.

So, for 3 extra spins we get on average 16 repeats; the LOTT gives 13; making 24 of the starting 37 hit once.

In the above posts I won over my target of 10%, won 695, playing the top performers. But I used 7. What does he say in advantage 3 in reply 9?

Here is the same game play to win 10%. Look at the matches. The top 3 are hitting to slow. We can see even top 7 was lagging. But the excel shows that the runner or horses behind the 7th are filling fast. Some games the top 3 or top 7 hit fast, but the behind runners or horses fill up.

Now #23 went asleep big time and then hits again.

So, we can see there’s some advantage. But what is needed is a staking method. How can you bet #23 that goes 40 plus spins with big unit?


Davy is right, take the #23. Riddler says chose your numbers wisely, here there’s 11 to chose from and only 237 spins, not 700 spins with 20X, where he has 11 to chose from.

So, does RX show so different to R-sim? Or as Dr Sir would say curved fitted?


Look how long to get a hit and that is with top 7. Do we guess when to bet large

The text file with 90 odd spins the matches are again to slow. Will he show RX, those spins and the matches?

 

Naughty, why don't you cherry-pick & do one permanence of 25 unique numbers with a repeat on 26th;

betting whatever (repeats in combination with GUT, KTF, WTF ...)
& show profit -- with a borderline case -- that will shut everyones' mouth.
[Although there are sequences with a repeat on 29th spin, running 10mil tests.]

Easy & average game, pretty much, take care of themselves;
what's of true value & really matters is winning the borderline, extreme cases.

That constitutes a winning method, system, strategy - whatever you wanna call it.

 

1 mill spins are roughly 10 years of spinning of 1 table in wiesbaden

so 25 once in 3 years...24 once in 2 years and 23 2 in 1 year.

I had one 23 in 7 months of spinning in Wiesbaden.

29 once in 100 years...

 

One this is for certain. NONE of you roulette people will ever get thrown out of a casino and/or entered into surveillance databases like Griffin, OSN, etc., as threats to beat casino games.

 

I can't follow this and I don't want to try. 1,3,5,7 =16 I never read the explanation for what that means or what it relates to. LOTT might be an acronym. In proper writing style you can use an acronym after the full meaning is stated in a paragraph. LOTT might mean Left out total timing for instance. Now all your friends in this spin menagerie have their opinions, I assume. Davie, the Riddler? Could it be that Batman is next. That last explanation left me knowing 100% for sure that I don't want to understand it's meaning.

I just wanted to see if I could figure out an EC version for a negative progression for common intervals. You would use a negative progression to reach the first repeat and that would represent a 50 / 50 payoff or more if it occurred at or before spin 8 for the sake of argument. So there would never be a spin 9. It would represent an EC loss. Perhaps that is possible only up to say spin 7. Maybe it's not possible. It needs to be in derivatives of 18, like a real EC. BTW, EC means even chance and BTW means By The Way.