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Roulette @Jerome - The Turbo Paradox

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. Armitage Shanks

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    Turbo continues to post great information and i hope that continues. One of the best bits of advice i read was to always look to improve oh and play repeats :p
    Read and read again, test and test again and again and again. In the meantime try out different things with only what you can aford to lose and when you can in a real environment.
     
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  2. Jerome

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    Jek, that seems a little convenient for those of us who are sceptical. Why not try anyway and let us know when you've been banned? ;)
     
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  3. Jerome

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    Turbo, you make it sound like a conspiracy. Why do you think Wikipedia and mathematicians are trying to deter people from looking for the answer? Are they (and the sceptics like me) really in cahoots with the gaming industry? perhaps they all have shares in casinos? In some cases casinos may believe that systems work, but that isn't proof that they do. It's more likely that they use the "systems" card as another string to their bow to justify not paying you if you're winning too much. It doesn't mean that they actually believe systems work, but they know that many players use them. And have you ever heard of anyone being banned from a B & M casino for using a martingale?

    There's a more persuasive argument on the other side which says that those who advocate systems (rather than say they don't work) also have their reasons for doing so, and it's pretty obvious what they are.
     
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  4. eugene

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    LoL….The owner of whichever casino you recently lost your 10 euros at wouldn't even bother wiping his arse with it!
     
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  5. jekhb1976

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    I do continue, will see how long they let me.
     
  6. jekhb1976

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    sorry to say but haven't lost. so the road to €25.000 by the end of the year continues.
     
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  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Armitage,

    Here's one of my favorites.."anyone starting at any point would win using something that doesn't lose."-Turbo

    I coughed up a kidney laughing after reading that one.:D
     
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  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Jekhb1976,

    I've been banned from more casinos than you and Turbo have ever even visited. So I'm more than qualified to tell you that you're at a greater risk of receiving a free coffee and some giggles than you are of being banned.:D

    For now you guys should stick to playing in pretend mode on RS where you can change the results if you don't like them.
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone



    Dating back to the days of Gamblers Glen 2006 I have never paid any attention to that windbag Turbo.

    He was full of hot air then and has not changed since .



    ND
     
  10. Sharptracker

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    It's never good to get something free from the casino... It means generally that they 're trying to make their reciprocity principle and loyalty you.
    If i owned a casino, i wouldn't do that... I would take custommer 's money to the maximum, no gift!
     
  11. Fossell

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    Great post TG. In my opinion, carry on as you were. 'A' being the closest option.
    You have a collection of solid posts here, from 'Math can beat...' and '38 people' through to progressions, random and fallacy threads.
    Threads like those make people 'think for themselves'. And theres plenty of other great nuggets and hints throughout other threads here.

    A player has to come to these understandings on their own first before they can truly make any use of them in the game.
    Its valuable time in itself for people to read these first.

    You can give somebody the best tools for job, but if they don't how to use them properly, they're gonna make a right mess of it.
    (Or better still – just giving a man a gun doesn't make him a soldier. It creates a liability who is more likely to shoot his bollocks off)
    I know for a fact that you could tell somebody exactly how to play your way, but that doesn't mean they would have the discipline to win with it. And then you know the backlash that would follow such an outcome – LMAO!

    I've been meaning to start a thread regarding discipline and money management. Watch this space. The biggest enemy in roulette isn't the house edge; its the player themselves. Your state of mind, thinking process and emotions can wipe out your game, even if your playing the most reliable method.

    Openly 'educate' with those that want to learn. Privately discuss with those that may know. Openly and privately ignore those that challenge and are really seeking the easy road.
     
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  12. TurboGenius

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    That was my most "under rated" (in my opinion) thread here.
    Mostly because I took it off track myself with bringing up the winners splitting the profits
    with the losers (etc - should have never been mentioned, it wasn't part of the point I was
    trying to make) - and the calculation error I made, which Ali Babba and his 40 thieves made
    sure I paid for. Regardless, the "meat and potatoes" of the post was important - I should
    re-do it properly and without the nonsense this time. It was partly my own fault.
    Cheers.
     
  13. trellw24

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    Hey TG, do you think you could chive in on my Patterns thread, I'd really like your input
     
  14. Wally Gator

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    I’ve wandered in and out of these forums for years and nothing changes. Someone posts ideas and others attack them personally. I’ve never understood the purpose in it. If you believe you have a better way, which most of us do, then either post your ideas or just go make money. There is no need to lash out at others, it’s in no way hurting you. You have no skin in the game, none of your money is at risk. Stop.

    Having been on both sides of six figure sways, I honestly have a hard time believing that anything posted on some forum will impact any given casino. The number of people with the patience, internal fortitude, bankroll and time is so minuscule that even with a system or method of play that is infallible is likely to find success elusive. And, if you are thinking that others, including casino’s, have not already figured out any strategy posted on these forums you’re naive.

    It sure would be nice if members of any of these forums could use their energy to promote the ideas of others. No one is risking anything by posting on a forum. They are made for like minded folks to share ideas, not berate one another. There is no reason for anyone to have to think about leaving based on sharing ideas.
     
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    @Wally Gator
    This is what i call crocodile tears mate. It's just about truth... you may realize once that if most of people know about the truth then a forum could be useful and go in the right way instead to look for a needle (that doesn't exist) in a haystack.

    The other problem is that you guys are generally appreciated because you generate traffic, nothing else.
     
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    Amen to that. Unfortunately, these days truth seems to not matter much, because somehow everyone's opinions are equal. Todays' snowflake generation can't seem to cope with the radical idea that truth is objective and not just a matter of personal agendas. I think this is a consequence of our education system which pushes "liberal" (left wing) ideology derived from cultural marxism and postmodern philosophy (everything is "socially constructed"). It's nonsense, and not only that, but dangerous too because free speech is being eroded. Some ideas are just wrong and should be criticized, and we should be man enough to take the criticism without taking it personally (don't confuse the message with the messenger).
     
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  17. TurboGenius

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    That's very interesting - I thought I was reading a post that someone made to themself for some reason.
    You do understand that the "snowflake" position here is to constantly spout (loudly and with memes
    and gifs) that something isn't possible, while never trying to understand the message at all - opinions
    were already set in stone and nothing will prove otherwise - and forget being able to admit being
    wrong about it... it's the person who brings the message that is attacked.
    That's what snowflakes do. I see that exact thing being done by the crowd who claims not to be
    those kinds of people. Strange.

    I'm thinking Steve's forum is perfect for your mentality - there's a forum for people to discuss
    but they are constantly standing against a wall while people throw rocks at them...
    and the forum is plastered with links and demonstrations and "how to really win" by
    using cheating methods - sure, sneaking a computer into the casino probably works...
    That's not why we are here. Sure finding a defective wheel works - there's forums
    for that and even a section here (but it's never used)... strange.

    Or is it better that someone searches for a roulette forum - finds one - clicks on the link and
    there is NO discussion at all about roulette.. just a page with no comments from anyone
    and a bold print that says :
    "1+1=2 and no one can change that.. the end."

    Who is it then trying to silence people ?
    The people trying to have the discussion ? or the people who think pulling out a calculation
    and a wikipedia page should end the debate once and for all - anyone thinking otherwise
    is clearly wrong (and a fool, and uneducated and silly and worth abuse) ?
    See how the situation really is ? It's not the system people who you
    described in your post - but yourselves.

    Imagine if everything thought "impossible" to achieve (which are now everyday things)
    were stopped because of the group of people who chanted constantly that whatever
    it is was impossible. They had PROOF - they had calculation, they had science and math
    and a never ending group of supporters chanting the same thing over and over.....
    but things weren't impossible at all (I was going to list a ton of them, but why bother).

    That's the snowflake position - it's so much easier to just stand at the bottom of a mountain
    and chant that the peak can't be reached, stand in a air field and chant the plane can never fly.
    Stand and point at the moon and say it can't be reached by humans... Point to a sick person and
    chant "they can't be cured"... in every case and countless others - science, math and proof
    told these people they were right and the silly fools trying to "do the impossible" were
    wrong. This is the group you choose to be in.
    On the other hand - there are people (usually a small minority of people) who fight against
    the chants and yelling from so-called experts and through their own hard work achieve
    exactly what was "impossible". It's always been done - not much is impossible anymore.
    Even absurd things that seem impossible today will someday be a common practice.
    But looking back to today there's no shortage of people screaming "fools !!!!!!!!".
    That's you're group - that's what a snowflake is. You have the smarts but no ability to
    take on a challenge and overcome it, no ability to reason with the other side and accept
    that things just might be possible... no - you have a calculation or a paper or a web page
    or "what someone said" and experts... so you see how your post describes yourself
    exactly - and there's probably no changing that.

    Meanwhile - sit back and enjoy, other people you deem silly and uneducated and plain
    wrong will pave the way for you, that's how it's always been - the greatest minds in history
    were always outcast and ridiculed by the "experts" of the time...
    Just sit and relax and chant... with your group of
    supporters and "facts" you can throw at anyone you don't agree with.. it's a much easier
    choice and you have a ton of people to back you up - why even consider that something
    tiny like 2.7% can be overcome with creative ideas - NAH.... it can't be done..
    throw a rock, insult, hold up the past as proof that you're right... it's nonsense.
    The system people would only have one thing to say "Please stay out of the way while
    we work on how to "do the impossible""
    I know that's not possible but that ignore button I'm using sure helps.

    Have a nice day.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Anybody that has to utilize an ignore list is a snowflake. :rolleyes::D
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Ignore list >> an indication of immaturity .
     
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    Lack of virility as well. Your contradictors bring hard evidences that you are wrong and instead of doing the same to prove your point, you choose retard comparisons such as horse races or flat earth theory or airplanes can fly therefore Roulette can be beaten. It is very childish indeed, I'd have imagined smart calculations / statistical evidences instead from a so called HolyGrailer and real money play mode. Still waiting since 20 years, I am maybe too impatient?.
     
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