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Sock Puppet Accusation Karen Nathan

Discussion in 'Sock Puppet Accusations' started by nate, Jul 6, 2021.

  1. Admin Team

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    Correct, we can care less because we care significantly about sock puppets, but we will not care less now or in the future as sock puppets destroy the trust within a community which is quite damaging. Equally damaging are false accusations of sock puppetry. Now, if you meant we could not care less about sock puppets , then that is a provably false accusation, and we encourage you to provide evidence to support your false accusation. In fact, we don't know of any other site that has created a specific section to transparently deal with sock puppets. Just because you incorrectly assume some members are sock puppets doesn't mean they are. We have significantly more metrics about our members than you and all our members combined. We also have significantly more experience making sense of such metrics to detect sock puppets than just about any member here as we have run several forum communities in various industries for for years. It seems you are attempting to throw us under the proverbial bus because your recent accusation that Karen Nathan still has sock puppets is not supported by evidence and it seems to upset you to be wrong. But we cannot be blamed for the evidence or lack therefore. We encourage you to report any member you believe is a sock puppet and we promise to investigate each accusation thoroughly. However, we discourage you from getting upset and seeking to blame others whenever no such evidence exists to support your accusations.
     
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    We encourage members to make such accusations, so there is nothing for them to get away with in that regard.

    That is up to you, not us. We don't bow to anyone as we are 100% independent as per our founding principles and slogan. We simply enforce our rules for the sake of the community as whole, not any individual members. If you can find a way to say what you want to say without violating our rules, then your posts will stand. However, if you can't and you end up violating our rules and it gets reported to us, then such posts will be sanctioned. So we encourage you to say what you have to say in a respectful manner at all times without violating our rules to avoid being sanctioned.
     
  3. Karen Nathan

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    Thank you guys for standing up for me. :) I found it insulting and harassing that Nate tried to get me into trouble by claiming I still have Sock Puppets and even went as far as to link to a Sock Puppet Thread I started TWO YEARS ago and in fact am no longer an Active Poster on that Website....
     
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  4. Admin Team

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    We are not standing up for you. We are standing up for the truth as supported by evidence. You have a history of creating sock puppets and that leads to distrust in communities and threads such as this one, so we cannot blame member Nate for doubting you. You already know the consequences if you create any further sock puppets on this site.
     
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  5. Karen Nathan

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    Well, at least thank you guys for basically telling Nate to stop implying that I have more Sock Puppets on here and not showing concrete evidence. The only "Evidence," he does is link to a two year old Thread on another Website. TWO YEARS....
     
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  6. nate

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    1. I'm not upset, the upset one is the member that sees fit to attack people that posted about what the admin is suggesting to do.

    2. This thread was brought to my attention off topic on another thread, which isn't saying much since that thread IS off topic.

    3. The member in question of being a puppet was highlighted using that multiple personality's wide collection of self admitted sock puppetry own posts and history, period. There is no speculation in their own posts. The speculation is how many more personalities are out there now not discovered. Admins own admittance and this members post admitting constantly creating puppets was the basis of my post that this member needs further monitoring. It's not even an accusation since sock puppetry of said member is a fact.

    4. I guess that's a good thing no current fake aliases have been uncovered. Nor was it known that admin had done any investigations until this board was created.

    5. The above admin quote is the first time to read such concerns from the admins and this new board just opened and I only happened to be the first to post.

    6. I would also stand by my reports that the other offending member is trolling and posting totally off topic on this board, as I have commented.

    It isn't just what actions someone does that tells the story, it's also what they don't do.
    I have no reason to respond to anyone else's off topic posts here or elsewhere on GF, nor will I defend myself on this thread as that is off topic as well. As I see how the thread was worded, one reports and that's it. Admin was not asking for any discussions on this thread concerning the reports. If that is what they wanted, they need to set up another thread for 'comments to sock puppetry' board.

    Because just about nobody is immune to post off topic on forums anywhere on the internet. To keep on topic is an insurmountable goal.
    Thank you admin for your input and frankness.
     
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  7. nate

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    • Violation of Rule #7: No Off-topic Posting
    Okay, since you- admin encourage people to report their belief of a member of being a sock puppet I will take advantage of that invitation to submit that freddy of the thread/wizardofvegas-forum-is-dying.3391/page-468#post-119763 fame is a multi. I will henceforth make no more comments about sock puppetry on any other thread but this one.
    I also state for the record that I won't be and never was upset that anyone was not a puppet, or proves not to be.

    And as admin has stated, a member being a sock puppet on another site is of no concern of GF and that's understandable. However, a member admitting to be a puppet elsewhere when such site banned them is still a red flag concerning possible knowledgeable conduct. I'm sure admin takes all these things under consideration in their investigations.

    Stay safe.
     

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    • Violation of Rule #7: No Off-topic Posting
    Don’t mind him , you have to cut him some slack. He just gets so upset and seems to lash out and starts accusing people of being sock puppetry, has zero ability to control his delusional tendencies, that’s not a criticism it’s only my limited opinion.
    Cheers
     
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    • Violation of Rule #7: No Off-topic Posting
    Administration I would like you to bare in mind poster Nate own admission that no one stays on topic, it’s very hard to stay on topic and
    I believe it’s HYPOCRITICAL for that poster to single other posters out for supposedly going off topic yet runs it keyboard sideways constantly.

    With that in mind I would like my post this thread the off topic one to be reinstated as the person that complained freely admit off topic is the normal even for its self.
    Perhaps he was upset when he posted and should have taken a moment before hitting post.

    I would also like to take this opportunity to commend poster Nate on being able to digest suck a large serve of suklingcock.

    The culinary dish of suklingcock is mentioned on another thread.

    I would like to inquire if administration has vetted all posters this forum re sock puppetry? Or are you doing it on a one by one basis as per the accusations of a perhaps a delusional poster might request.

    The reason I ask as it’s ambiguous wether I have been vetted as a sock puppetry by you recently posted post this thread and by the assumption by poster Nate, he’s prone to delusional accusations but a relatively benign harmless charming character in my limited opinion that is , I would question his complaint if one arises re this paragraph. No disrespect in that paragraph.

    If I haven’t been vetted I would like to ask poster Nate, oh and he’s a wonderful upstanding example of... I might add ..


    If he’s going to lodge the formal complaint of me being a sock puppetry.
    I see he’s jumped Freddy up the cue so in doing so has this been his , Nate, top excellent.... way of trolling me these past few weeks with false or rather unsubstantiated accusations of me being a sock puppetry.

    I believe if poster Nate, totally fantastic ... is going to continue to hassle and make false accusations should stop claiming other posters are trolling, I think hypocrisy is the word.

    I would like to say what a wonderful Nate is. Never have I witnessed so much in one person as Nate.
    You Nate are certainly a credit to your gene pool,I’m truly amazed of how far you have come with all those obstacles you have faced. stay mask safe, live long .
    Big severing of suklingcock tonight, yum yum. ( description of suklingcock composition on another thread )

    Incidentally I’m looking forward to thanksgiving this year, lockdown rules permitting of course, the turducky ( description also on other thread) has been ordered as they sell out quickly as one gets close to thanksgiving, found that out the hard way a couple of years ago. Last year celebrations with friends was on hold due to a major household move.
    Cheers
     
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  10. Admin Team

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    You need to create a new thread in this section for each accusation in order for us to initiate a new investigation.
     
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    We do both, but a formal accusation in this section helps us look into a particular member more closely than we otherwise would.
     
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