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Roulette Lets Have a Contest

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by EKAPS, Jul 8, 2015.

  1. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    Lets see if the fallacy that you can't use past spins to predict future results is really a fallacy. I say I can predict the next two dozens more than 66% of the time. If somebody wants to post the numbers from an actual wheel, I'll do it right on the forum.
     
  2. jbs

    jbs Well-Known Member

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    Why not just go make billions in the casinos?
     
  3. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    Casinos raise an eyebrow when you go to the cashier with billions in chips. Lets just concentrate on this small part of the universe. All it takes is one hearty soul to start it off. Costs nothing, except your humility.
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Ekaps,

    You need to go back and read more on the history of the game. Virtual bets and the law of the third are fallacy.
     
  5. jbs

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    Laws of nonsense. Winners keep quiet, play and profit. Losers talk about "systems."
     
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  6. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    So I'm willing to show right here, on this forum, that past spins can indeed be used to predict future outcomes, and nobody is interested? What the heck are you afraid of? Some of you are oh so confident of the math involved, here's your chance to be proven right. No trickery, you pick the string of outcomes from a real wheel and I'll do the rest.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I like this guy
     

  8. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    Virtual bets are a fallacy? That makes no sense. That's like saying target practice with a pistol is useless because you aren't shooting at a live person. Making virtual bets is how you perfect making real bets in a casino. That's why tools like Roulette Xtreme are so invaluable.
     
  9. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    Thanks. I don't understand what's going on here. People make declarative statements that past spins are crap for making decisions about future bets. I say I can prove otherwise and I'm mocked and ignored. I offer to be tested and nobody takes me up on it. This means they don't really mean what they say, they don't really believe past spins are useless.
     
  10. IDPA

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    As a relatively new guy here (but not to the gambling forum world) I can add a few comments that may be relevant.

    First off, I see a lot of familiar names posting up a lot of the same drivel that they have previously posted on many other boards. Sometimes I think they really do enjoy seeing their name come up on the "new message" list or something.

    Others are attempting to gain a loyal following of people who will live or die on their every word. They are desperate to have people hang on their every pronouncement. High visibility in the forums is important to them.

    Like someone else has already posted, the true winners are generally quiet and just take the money and leave.

    Toss in a contest like you have graciously offered and most members will shy away, mainly due to not having a clue as to what they are doing when REAL gaming comes into play. They are also usually afraid someone will make fun or ridicule their methods.

    As well you know, most gamblers are treading on thin ice and anything to shake that fragile ego simply cannot be brought out into the light of day.

    As an aside, I've seen many of these local "challenges", both for money and for fun and for some reason they just kind of die out on their own even though one would think that something of this nature would just continue on and on.

    I've carried on a bit too long. Good luck with your challenge to the group. Continued success in your gaming.

    Oh yes, I believe a better venue for what you are attempting to do might be in a real time chat room, at a specified time each day, where the game can continue at a decent speed rather than on a message by message basis. Just my two cents.

    Idpa
     
  11. EKAPS

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    There seems to be no interest at all. I'm kinda surprised, I thought there would be a couple. Some seem downright hostile to the idea. I would certainly like to see a winning roulette strategy is action.
     
  12. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I can think of a few issues with a 'contest'.
    If you "do it" - there are plenty of people that will say that it's "fixed" or that you are setting people up to advertise some system that is for sale, etc etc. (that's just what would happen).
    If you can't "do it" - there are plenty of people that will say that it's "fixed" in order to promote the idea that "no systems work" and that it's some setup to promote some roulette computer or something (lol).
    I'm kidding, but not totally kidding. Regardless of the outcome - there will be no point in it.
    I agree with what's said above - if something works, use it and enjoy. (and Happy Gambling)
    "or"
    Describe it clearly (how it's done) and let the RX coders or others program it and test for long term results or to give a good example of "what can happen" and then people can decide if it's in their comfort zone of risk to play.
    Just suggestions and opinions (typically not worth much lol)
    We had a contest section at VIP and it went well for a while but never turned into anything of value.
     
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  13. IDPA

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    Ekaps,

    I know I have some good roulette live spin data from WAY back when and it would be interesting to see what you can do with it. Now the problem is to FIND the cards here in this mess I call an office.

    I figure I can scan the entire card, email it to one of the admins and then they can monitor as I send out each number.

    First things first, must find the original cards!

    Idpa
     
  14. REV

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    Something that i found thats fact with roulette ,,,,,the frequency will drop to a repeat ! every system will have a losing session BUT who cares!
     

  15. EKAPS

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    You're probably right. Some responses are almost hostile. And I do use it in casinos. If I thought there was the slightest chance it could be reverse engineered with a demonstration, I would never do it. I just get sick of people saying past spins are useless.

    But I'm sure you're correct, it's a no win situation for me. Forget I ever brought it up.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Understood.
    When you chart 'random' you get clues to future spins, you also get patterns (it's part of random) it's not 100% - it doesn't have to be 100%.
    That's why I stress the small house edge and how (if you know what you're looking for), past spins can really help with deciding on where to bet.
    It's not super powers or whatever nonsense the naysayers bring up - it's just common sense.
    Kind of like the old saying that lighting never hits the same place twice (well, it does - but anyway...)
    If there was a storm producing lighting that hit in random locations..... I would stand where it had already hit before.
    Would I get hit ? Probably not... It wouldn't make me a superhero though. lol.
     
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  17. EKAPS

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    Just takes time, which most aren't willing to give it. You won't end up owning the casino, but that shouldn't be your goal. Slow and steady wins the race.
     
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    You two belong to the same league. Help each other. Nobody else seems to be willing to know your hidden treasures of clairvoyance, pattern recognition, capacity to predict what will happen next day, precognition, voodoo. Use them in casinos to earn a nice living. Don't waste your time here.
    If you want to prove your point that you can predict great, do one thing. Fix a time when u play a live casino online at https://www.smartlivegaming.com/en/live-roulette/ or any other casino of your choice. Play there in demo mode or if u trust your skills, in real money and showcase an hour of video. Put that on youtube. Simple.
     
  19. EKAPS

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    I live in the US, we can't play 99% of online casinos. The ones we can play cheat like there's no tomorrow. You do it and let us know the results.
     
  20. albalaha

    albalaha Active Member Founding Member

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    There is no problem in playing with fun money on a live roulette even if you are in Afghanistan. What I do? I do not understand what you propose to do by this so-called contest. You either should showcase or explain.
     

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