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TurboGenius Light Ball! Test 1

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by jekhb1976, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Woke up this morning and i think i had a light ball effect, i think.
    Bare with me.

    Test 1:

    Cycle 1:
    Bet all numbers that are hit for the second time (repeat 2 hit) up to the end of the cycle (35 spins).
    When we have a hit (meaning a number just turned into a 3 hit number) and are at a new high, we reset and start over as explained at the beginning (betting every number that becomes a 2 hit again...).
    When we get a hit on one of the repeats and we are not in profit, we raise our bet on the just hit number and continue on with the rest (until end of the cycle). Again, this is all cycle 1.
    At the end of the first cycle, and we are still not at a new high (meaning we have had A. too many repeats and only 1 hit), or B. none of the repeats have turned into a 3 hit by the end of the cycle.
    We remove all 3 (and above) hits from our list (if we had any) and put an extra chip on the remaining 2 hits from our first cycle.

    Cycle 2: (we treat this as a new cycle).
    spin 36-70
    In this cycle we are betting our repeats (2 hits only) from cycle 1 with a 2 chip value on them. And we will also be tracking down newly formed 2 hits as we go allong and add them to our betting list.
    We continue the same way as we did in cycle 1. whenever one of the old (cycle 1) repeats get hit, we raise it with an extra chip. Whenever a number become a new 2 hit, we add it, and also raise those new ones if they become a 3 hit etc.
    Again, new high, we reset the whole dame thinh, lol.
    At the end of the second cycle at spin 70 if we are still not at a new high, we remove all numbers on our list that have become a 3 (or above) hit and raise the remaining ones with one chip each and continue on for cycle 3.

    this progress will be done until we are at a new high as explained.
    don't know if this is something, but i just needed to right it down beforw i forgot.
    Testing needs to be done.
    Again, we are only aiming for atleast 1u profit within a days timeframe. Max 4 hours at bm.

    Next up will be Test 2 - The actual test with live spins. I will contribute further when time permits.
    Cheers.
    Eddy
     
  2. HAL

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    I think you had a bad dream. Why bet all 2’s? Do they all have the same potential?
     
  3. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, that's the problem.
    But we can't cherry pick at random, wich 2 hits we are gonna keep.
    In normal cases, you will have between 6-9 2 hits per cycle, of wich some might turn into a 3 or a 4 hit.
    But 1/3 of the repeats that didn't became a 3 or above hit, will get hit in the next cycle.
    We don't keep all 2s in play, only the ones that still need to become a 3 hit. end of the cycle, remove winners and raise on the losers for that moment. or visa versa.
    We can also start on step higher, with 3 stars in a cycle, etc. the above was just an example how i think we can balance things out until we have our 100% profit at some point.
    Again, was a thought. needs investication.
     
  4. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    most cycles will have 1-3 numbers that have become a 3 hit, even a 4 or in some rare cases a5 hit in 35 spins. When this happens, it's game over and on to the next session.
    2-3 out of 10 cycles won't have a 3 hit.
    That's why we take those with us into the next cycle. We can also start after each 35 spins and see wich numbers are still a two hit and take it from there. Because the law of the third says that we will have 1/3 of our numbers hit 1-2 times in the next cycle, etc. That where the progression jumps in.
     
  5. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    In most cases you should see a new high within 175 spins (5 cycles).
     
  6. panatha

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    I have create a bet selection tracking for two cycles or74 spins to be more clarify
    and the results are amazing after 2000 spins
    when be ready i will post it but i would like some guy give me a help
    about testing more if he believes that is a promising system
     
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  7. Platton

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    Help with what?
     

  8. panatha

    panatha Member

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    HI,TEST MORE SPINS
    when I complete 5000 spins I will post it
    I think that idea maybe is profitable idea so can win more than lose
    but of course maybe be so lucky to my little tests....
    of course my inspiration was jekhb post so thats exactly the reason i will post here
     
  9. panatha

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    so my inspiration from jekhb1976 above post
    Record 74 spins and take a note of paper of all the numbers HITS EXACTLY 2 TIMES AFTER 74 SPINS
    so a tracking software is absolutely neccessary
    After my test i can said that there will be normally between 6 and 12 numbers that hits exactly 2 times
    after 74 spins
    These numbers will always stay the same during the session. WE WILL NEVER ADD ANY NEW NUMBERS
    AFTER 74 SPINS MARKER
    When we get a hit on ANY OF OURS 2 HITS NUMBERS WE PACE 1 UNIT ON IT
    IF we get a win, a 2hits number we was betting on with 1 unit, then now PLAY 2 UNITS ON THAT NUMBER
    KEEPING WHATEVER UNITS WE HAVE ON OTHER NUMBERS THE SAME
    WE are hoping that some of these 2 HITS NUMBERS BECOME A COLD AND DONT HITS.........
    THATS GREAT GUYS BECAUSE WE WONT BE BETTING ON THEM, ALSO HOPING SOME
    OF THE 2 HITS NUMBERS BECOME HOT AND EXACTLY FOR THAT REASON
    WE ARE PLAYING A POSITIVE PROGRESSION ON THEM USING THE TGENIUS
    PROGRESSION 1,2,4
    NOW ITS TIME FOR ACTION
    .......
    ......
    ....
    ...
    ...
    74 spins tracked back and our 2 hitters in that session are
    0,3,5,13,15,20,32,33
    14
    1
    9
    4
    12
    23
    10
    32 32 on 1 unit
    3 3 on 1 unit -1
    13 13 on 1 unit -2
    8 -3
    35 -3
    26 -3
    22 -3
    16 -3

    24 -3
    18 -3
    23 -3
    35 -3
    13 w now 2 units on 13 -3 +36
    16 -4
    36 -4
    30 -4
    12 -4
    18 -4
    35 -4
    12 -4
    20 now20 on1 unit -4
    3 w now 2 unis on 3 -5 +36
    25 -6
    15 15 on 1 unit -6
    36 -7
    6 -7
    3ww now 4 units on 3 -7 +72
    15w now 2 units on15 -9 +36
    18 -10
    8 -10
    6
    3wwww session end -10 +144
    Now some more infomation
    our sessions end after two cases
    1lost 250 units
    2 and important WHEN WE HIT ON A NUMBER WITH 4 UNITS ON IT
    REGARDLESS IF IN IN PROFIT OR NOT
    NOW ABOUT TEST
    SOME MORE PARAMETERS
    BANKROLL 600 -700 UNITS
    AVERAGE SESSION LENGTH 120 SPINS
    3 SESSIONS LOST 250 UNITS
    SOME SESSION -30,-35 ITS A SECOND CASE ABOUT END SESSION
    NET PROFIT INCLUDING LOSSES 2650 UNITS
    SESSIONS 60 SESSIONS
    SPINS 6200 SPINS
    1000 SPINS FROM DUBLINBET
    2000 SPINS FROM MY LOCAL ATHENS CASINO
    2000 SPINS FROM EFBET AIRBALL MACHINE
    1000 SPINS FROM NOVIBET WITH LIVE DEALLERS ONLINE CSINO
    MAYBE TO LUCKY....
    I HOPE BE HELPFUL
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  10. Rinad

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    good Job ,I am surprise no one responded to this post. I dont think your results were just luck because I play a repeater method myself and will posted here . I have now over 300 sessions . the only thing is twice it took 2000 units to "not lose" but I am okay with it, even know some may be turned off by it. you played that many spins and you made profit, congratulations.
     
  11. Rinad

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    here it goes with a great Method.
    dont change anything right now as you will test it I am sure before play it live.
    it is a repeater system like many have posted but the small difference can make a huge difference.
    i play it live with full confidence and also ran some tests . it works and has not lost yet .
    it can be played to its full extent and will require 2000 units. (if you are a die hard)
    I personaly dont mind that many units and being a small entrepreneur have seen people losing much more than 2k in a small business venture,like hundreds of thousands of dollars. this here is cake in comparison but my take is this; you dont need to make huge bets ,not more then 10$ per number and will never play more then 5 numbers total.
    1/ record 12 spins with 12 numbers.
    2/ after 12 spins you will bet 1 unit on the repeaters of 2 or more but never more then 5 numbers.
    3/ at anytime you get a hit and reach a new high the session is over and begin from step one with 12 new spins,ect...
    4/ if you hit a number and are in the minus you will bet 2 units.
    5/ my progression goes 1,2,3,4,5. then stay at 5 until you get back everything. (never lost yet)
    6/ also once you have your five numbers you never change them. even if others become hotter.
    7/ the only deviation that you can do if you like is to reduce a bet, stay at the same level ,just as long as you know you will get a new high if you get a hit, that is the only "make your call" , that I allow myself to do.

    that is it. I am very busy right now but I will answer questions if I can. it is very easy to play and look forward to your result. again we are playing a positive progression here and you wont believe how great it works. sometime it may take spins to get there but most of the time it do not.
    God bless
    Rinad
     
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  12. Smitridel

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    Statistically speaking in 12 numbers you will likely have 2 to 3 repeaters.
    So you continue recording the last 12 and adding the repeaters that come of the new set of last 12 up untill you have 5?

    Sounds like mr. J method but you stick on the same numbers once you reach 5 numbers.
     
  13. Rinad

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    i heard by some that statatically we get 12 repeats every cycle but I rarely see more then 4 repeats within 12 spins.
    during this first 12 spins Idont bet and just record 12 numbers . that is the only time I record period. after that I look and bet any repeat up to 5 numbers. that is it, and stick to those until I am in the +. that simple , no more counting spins ,nothing, just stick to them. to be clear lets said you only have #9 ,#24 as repeats within 12 spins , so you bet 1 unit on each, then 5 spins later #33 shows up as another repeat , so now you bet on #9,24,33. 10 spins later #2 shows up , #9,24,33,2...... so you just keep adding until you get 5 numbers. of course if I get a hit at anytime and I am in the plus I stop. dont matter if I only have 2 repeats . that is all my friend. hope that helps.
    Rinad
     
  14. RickK

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    So if it's 12 "different" numbers needed to start, then there could be more than 12 spins needed if a repeat or two show up in those first 12 spins. This may be obvious, but just checking to make sure it's 12 different numbers you use to start.
     
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  15. RickK

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    Or....would your 12 numbers include the repeats ( repeat 7's count as 2 numbers) and whatever you get in 12 spins is what you use...? Sorry about the questions, but you did mention that a small difference could make a huge difference...
     
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  16. Rinad

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    Rick I will try to explain the best i can not a problem to be clear.
    you first seat down with a small 3x5 card and a pen.
    you record 12 spins . (no betting).
    ex; 4...8...23....32....4....12....33.....2....7.....22.....3....8.... you now bet on#4 and #8 since they have 2 repeats.
    now . 20....11....23 come out next..now you add #23 to your #4 and #8 numbers giving you 3 numbers total.
    then.......28....36...33...come out next...you add #33 to the list giving you 4 numbers ....then....2 comes out. you have now all five numbers.
    #4 #8 #23 #33 #2 . you now stay with those until you win.
    anytime you get a hit you look at your balance .
    lets said you start with 500 unit and get a hit but are still at minus 20 units, or 480 , you go from a 1 unit bet on each number to 2 units.
    positive progression is 1,2,3,4,5. with a bad run which happened 4 times in 300 sessions , you stay at 5 units on each five numbers and never go higher.
    you have the choice to come down on your bets if you wish and you know that just one hit will get you back to square one and you are a conservative player. you have that choice at anytime and you will be winning still, but not as much.
    I win every single time I play . mostly it does not take long.
    hope that helps. try it and see what results you will be getting. personaly it has amazed me how simple it is to play and how great the win rate is.
    I played a lot of repeats systems before but this one tops all of them.
    Rinad
     
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    In those 300 sessions what is your total profit Rinad? If its not few times the mentioned 2000 units you are bound to hit a bad run where you might even lose 2x2000 in a row, thats why I think its an important knowledge.
     
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  18. Rinad

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    to be totally honest I have not kept track of all the winnings. since at times I decided to play a more conservative game and so it depends. I said the average win is close to 20 units.
    there is also a good possibility to add on a second group of 5 numbers. I wanted to keep things simple here at first so i did not mention it until now.
    you would play a second game to catch newer repeats and do exactly the same process. this would level the plan-field if so desired.
    there is a lot that can be added but what happens often is that we over complicate things and then the all method goes south and we stop.
    one could also take a loss if he so chose but I do think the way it is now it has merits and I would suggest playing it just like it is for now to get a taste of its consistency. even losing 2000 units is not the end of the world if the game loses once in while. but it has not done so yet and could take a long time before it does. the confidence of winning so often is very rare . I play it live and have no fear of being down because of the boomerang effect that takes place soon or later as you get 2 or 3 wins per cycle. even if it takes 200 spins you always get there.
     
  19. panatha

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    I Will start test Rinad method very soon and i will post my results
    i have some ideas about repeaters but no one of them is killer strategy
    I WILL POST MY BEST VERY SOON
    RINAD APROACH SEEMS INTERSTING............
     
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  20. Rinad

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    worth trying, if someone dont like it we dont need to get married to any system. to be honest I am surprise myself of the easyness and results I got or I would of just discard it all ready. have fun with it Panatha.
     

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