Intro Looking for advantage players

We'll continue to reply to the lies from the owner of the Hobo-hosted site who won't bet more than $13 on his grand "vision" for Advantage Players most likely because it's just a Honet Pot to lure suckers.

Thank you for posting an even more comprehensive list of our expert Founding Members which only further proves our point.

You mean the casino training material that is freely available here? Just because you say something doesn't make it true, and considering your complete lack of credibility, no one is going to take anything you say seriously. Least of all when hosted on HoboHost. For someone who came in here saying you weren't competing with us, you are trying desperately hard to try to make your Hobo-hosted site out to be better than ours (as if we cared). But again, you have no credibility, so that's to be expected.

More lies. Anyone is free to criticize FX scams or anything else, even us. Read this.

More lies. We didn't actively protect anyone, we enforced our no Off-topic Posting rule after Boz called a member a scammer 14 times without ever backing it up in order to derail the thread. You can continue to lie about us, but we'll continue to correct you and expose you for the liar that you are.

More lies. Boz never provided any evidence to back up his claims when he called them scammers 14 times. He only produced evidence after he was tagged as the Compulsive Liar that he is.

You obviously never heard of the principle of presumption of innocence. One is innocent until proven guilty. One is not guilty until proven innocent.

That's because we don't protect anyone. We enforce our rules.

More lies, vagueness, and non-specifics. How do we benefit from those posters? Also, we don't make determinations about what are scams and what aren't. Our members are free to do that and expose the scammers. Of course, to do that, they need evidence. You seem to fail to grasp this simple concept.

Strange considering you said in your previous post:

You are now completely contradicting yourself, so which is it? Will you not allow scams and spam, or do your members know better so you don't have to deal with it? You are losing track of what you've been saying, which tends to happen to liars.

How do you know what Boz's problem is with us? What is your disturbing fetish and obsession with Boz? Considering your complete lack of credibility coupled with your intimate knowledge of Boz's case and our community despite being a "new" member, we find the fact that you connect via a Proxy/VPN to be very suspicious. So stop connecting via a Proxy/VPN.

More and more lies. How are we befitting from scams? Again, be specific. You throw out false accusations and yet you never back them up. Sounds familiar. That's what got Boz into trouble.

We don't care about the scams in your forum because we don't care about your forum at all, we were pointing out your hypocrisy to continue to discredit you so that no one takes your false accusations against us seriously.

Of course not, this is you just lying yet again to attempt to discredit us. Again, read this.

No, that's just you lying yet again. Those Founding Members we linked to before are the best minds and they are the elite in the industry. They are members here. Anyone is free to join and reply to their threads or to send them a Private Message once they unlock that feature. If you are upset because you have not been able to attract any actual Advantage Players to your supposed-Advantage Player site, let alone attract the best minds in the industry like we have, then don't take it out on us. That's your shortcoming, not ours.

Again, you're trying to have it both ways because you don't even know how to lie consistently. You claim we are a haven for spammers and scammers, and you claim the only intention of our famous Founding Members here was to sell books and courses, so why aren't they active? Your ridiculous claims are what don't hold water. These top minds in the industry have little to learn, but a lot to teach, so a community that doesn't pay them to participate doesn't hold much value for them as they have a lot more to offer than to gain. You wouldn't understand that because you are at the bottom of the food chain and your time is worthless.

Pointing out how little you bet on your vision ($13), and how you host on HoboHost isn't sinking to new lows, it's supporting our entire thesis about you which is that you have zero credibility. You claim to aspire to greatness, you come here to put us down, and all the while you couldn't bet more than a measly lunch on your great vision. You are a joke.

We already cost you any credibility you had before coming here. Since it's clear you are so cheap and believe so little in your vision, you won't even renew your domain past 2017 to prove you are in it for the long-term. This doesn't surprise us considering your site may be a Honey Pot for Advantage Gamblers and we just outed you in our previous post. Who would invest any more money in a Honey Pot after it got outed? Certainly not someone hosting on HoboHost.

You continue this lie to attempt to discredit us, but you never point to the evidence of us actively protecting anyone. You same fixated on the Forex thread, but your accusation falters as Boz was allowed to call them scammers directly or indirectly at least 14 times before we took action against him as he kept derailing the thread with his off-topic posts which is against our rules. If we were protecting them, Boz would not have been able to post 14 times calling them scammers, and his posts wouldn't still be in the thread. But of course, you don't mention that, but you want to lie to attempt to discredit, yet all you have accomplished is proving you have zero credibility.

No, because our site specifically allows new members to post a link to their work in the introductory post so that our members can understand what it is they do. That's how you were able to link to your potential Honey Pot in your opening post, but when you tried to link to your potential Honey Pot in another thread, the URL was removed. We are consistent with our rules and it doesn't matter if you are at the top of the AP Food Chain like our Founding Members or at the bottom of it like you.

Again, you're trying to have it both ways. You're claiming our Founding Members were only interested in spamming, yet they never bothered to unlock the one feature that would allow them to add links to all their posts. Your lies don't even make sense anymore.

In your continuing, embarrassing, and unsuccessful quest to discredit us through lies, you also left out this crucial part from here:

See, as we mentioned earlier, our expert members have more to give than to receive, so they need an incentive to participate as their time is valuable. Considering our community was originally invite-only, our expectation was that the majority of our members would be such experts, and the only way they would be willing to participate regularly is if they had an incentive, and that's where the idea of the Signature was born. Keep in mind that most sites allow users to add Signatures from day one, yet we are a lot stricter. But according to you, us being stricter in unlocking Signatures makes us a haven for spammers and scammers which continues to prove how inconsistent your lies are because you obviously aren't very bright.

No, we never allowed anyone to spam, but it is funny to see a bottom-feeder such as yourself insinuate folks such as Poker Hall of Famers Tom McCoy and Linda Johnson are "scammers". I'm sure they wouldn't be offended, just like we don't get offended when children tell us we have the cooties. For an insult to sting, it must come from someone credible, not the owner of a $13 site hosted on HoboHost who joins other Forums to put them down with lies just to try and unsuccessfully elevate his Hobo-hosted site.

Again, it's so telling of your lack of credibility that you would only equivocate Signatures, which every Forum allows but which we make you earn through strict criteria, as being spam in our Forums but not in the countless other forums that allow Signatures from day one.

According to whom? The owner of that $13 Hobo-hosted site that has proven time and again he has zero credibility? Do you honestly think we care? We don't. The only thing we care about is you coming here to unfairly discredit us with lies, so you forced us to expose you. Even if you became a much more active and importante gambling forum than ours, we still wouldn't care, as long as you didn't come here to lie about us. Of course, your site won't ever amount to much because its owner is a bottom-feeder with zero credibility.

We aren't comparing Forums. We are no Ferrari. We are a VW Beetle in the gambling world. But you are just a beetle. We don't compare ourselves to you, you are the one that compares your site to ours because we are clearly something you aspire to. All we do is simply correct your lies about the supposed greatness of your site to provide even more evidence to our readers that you have zero credibility.

Again, for someone that joined a week ago, you are intimately familiar with our site. Stop connecting with a VPN and just tell us who you are here. We won't ban your accounts, we'll just merge them as it is against our rules to have Multiple Accounts. #WhaleSexLivesMatter

But you don't need to sell in order to scam. Your site is free and we outed it as a potential Honey Pot. Yet the link to your potential Honey Pot is still up on your intro post because it does not violate our rules. If you want us to remove scam links, does that mean we should be removing the links to your Hobo-hosted potential Honey Pot scam site?

You already accused us of this without backing it up, we asked you to point to where we claim our forum is "full of experts", and yet you repeat it again, and once again you don't back it up. It's so easy to lie.

We already disproved this lie above.

No, we only take action when a member breaks one of our few rules. Our community has one of the fewest number of rules and we are among the most lenient moderators. Ask our active members.

Because we don't protect scams, that's just the lie you're desperately trying to make stick, but can't.

We already disproved this lie above.

Repeating the same lie over and over again won't make it true, it will just prove you too are a compulsive liar.

You scouting for Advantage Players makes sense considering your site is a potential Honey Pot to lure Advantage Players so that you can pass that on to the Casinos so that they can neutralize those AP plays. We have no doubt you know the Advantage Players better than we do, we are just glad you haven't been able to lure any of our Founding Members.

First of all, notice how you dodged our request for proof since you don't have any since you are just lying repeatedly. Second, you were probably all proud of yourself thinking you had finally found your "gotcha" moment since you haven't been able to find anything else that "sticks". We're sorry to disappoint you, but the 2 Private Forums that neither you or Boz or SteveH are privy to are the Forums within our GamblingForums.com site called the Founding Members' Private Club and the Web of Trust Private Club. So no need for us to add the compulsive liar tag to ourselves since we don't lie, but we may consider telling you to put up or be tagged since you continue to ignore our requests for you to back up your lies and false accusations.

We do not doubt that you know who's who better than us since you've been scouting Advantage Players for a while now and finally set up a potential Honey Pot to lure them all into one place so that you no longer have to scout for them in the hopes that they come to you so that you can pass the information on to the Casinos so that they can neutralize the plays.

Which is precisely why you need to lure them to you with a potential Honey Pot site.

Still trying to make this lie stick? Our readers are starting to cringe at your desperate attempt that keeps falling short.

Wait, so you do get it! We are so proud of you!

Never mind, we spoke too soon. You still don't get what uncensored means and you still don't get that even if someone is eventually right, lobbing empty accusations over and over again at least 14 times to throw a thread off-topic violates our rules because the target has nothing specific to refute.

You're still not getting it. Logic isn't evidence. If you want to repeatedly call a member a scammer, back it up with evidence, like we did when we exposed your site as a potential Honey Pot by providing a screenshot of the LinkedIn profile of a Casino Consultant that listed your site as one of his current websites.

No, you don't get it because you don't seem to be very bright. If what you just said is true, then every forum that allows Signatures -- which the vast majority of Forums do from day 1 -- is just a forum for misleading and scamming people. Maybe you'll get it after you read what we wrote here:

Do you see that underlined word, "credibility"? Of course, you don't understand that word because you need to have credibility to understand what it is and why it's so important, particularly in an anonymous context such as online forums. Scammers don't have credibility, and those without credibility won't convince others to do anything, which is why we predict your site will fail since you have zero credibility.

Of course we did, because you came here as if you were king of the jungle ready to discredit us with lies, and we had to expose you for what you are, the owner of a potential Honey Pot who bet $13 on his pet project which he consciously decided to host on HoboHost because he doesn't believe in his vision at all.

Wrong. The domain listed on the person's LinkedIn profile isn't dated. He (you) could have added it a few days ago when you registered the domain, or you could have been the original owner of the domain and forgot to renew it (since you are so cheap that you host on HoboHost) and then re-registered it since no one else would be after it as it's a worthless domain. You don't have the credibility to earn the benefit of the doubt on this one, that's why credibility is so important.

Again, there is no proof that you have no affiliation with the Casino consultant and you don't have the credibility to earn the benefit of the doubt on that.

Neither the link on the LinkedIn profile or the profile itself are dated, so the link could have been added a few days ago as well. Once again, you don't have the credibility to earn the benefit of the doubt regarding any of this. That's why credibility is so important, and you have none.

Now you just set yourself up for the most incriminating evidence yet. You are now trying to act as if you had that disclaimer telling your members not to Private Message each other all along, when in fact you only added it after we exposed your site here as a potential Honey Trap. Before we exposed you, your site literally said the opposite: "We suggest once you have identified a potential partner, move your discussion off the public forum and into private chats that nobody else can see". Now after we exposed you, you are saying "Do NOT rely on the forum's private messages because they are insecure and not encrypted.". Talk about trying to cover your tracks. How desperate do you have to be?

As always, we back up what we say with evidence. Here is a screenshot of the google cache of your site from November 28 before we exposed you (on November 29) where you can see your original disclaimer encouraging your users to use your private chat feature:



Hook. Line. Sinker.

Now we are starting to cringe as you are still, still trying to make this one stick. Your desperation is bleeding through your post.

Of course you don't, because with every reply you've mouthed off, we've undressed, dissected, and exposed you more and more. Remember, you opened up this pressurized can of worms when you decided to come here and lie about us to try to elevate your potential Honey Pot site and you are obviously regretting it now as you are calling it quits. Next time, don't write checks your body can't cash.

Says a person who has been so publicly undressed and exposed that their words are completely meaningless.

Unreal. You are still for the countless time even at the very end desperately trying to make that stick. This is embarrassing. We are embarrassed for you.

And where is that, a $13 Hobo-hosted site that's a potential Honey Pot for Advantage Players and tries to change their evidence mid-way to hide their true intentions? Nice try. You are a hypocrite, a compulsive liar, and a charlatan with zero credibility. Mark our words: your site will fail. We suspect you won't be renewing your domain next year and if you do, that you will continue to host it on HoboHost. Not that we'll remember you by then...

To finish this off, it's worth showing once again your "CasinoPlayer.pro" site listed on the LinkedIn profile of the man that runs Nexus Gaming Intelligence, a Casino events and consultancy company:



And now for full visual effect: