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LovePotion9 has refused to cooperate with our Sock Puppet Investigation

Discussion in 'Suggestions / Comments / Criticisms / Problems' started by Admin Team, Jun 21, 2016.

  1. Admin Team

    Admin Team Administrators Admins

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    No problem, it's our pleasure.

    That is what we suspect in this case since they did not want to show us their real IP which would have revealed their main account.
     
  2. nate

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    How would you know this?
    I'm more than a little concerned that I, a new member less than a month old, can throw out a flippant, what I thought was a minor personal attack and all of a sudden another member gets in trouble and a whole new board is created to explain and do damage control.
    Admin can see my posting history, they know I've been more than short with a few members and basically an ass. But I don't see how they can take such quick action on my comments, that honestly, I didn't know would trigger this and my accusations are based on total speculation and stated to just tick off that member.

    The only good thing about this, is we get to see some of the underbelly of GR and decision makings. I don't think I've been on this forum long enough to be given any credibility in the first place. Let alone shut down someones account. I'm going say, something else was going on already and maybe the forum used my posts as an excuse or justification to finally get something done that they wanted to for a while.

    No, there's more to the story. C'mon, there's not a single member on this forum that's going to take me, less than a month new member bigmouth seriously. No one. Why should admin.
     
  3. Admin Team

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    You are giving yourself too much credit and reading too much into this. As we mentioned earlier, it takes us literally seconds to "investigate" a member for Sock Puppetry, so when you mentioned several members may be Sock Puppets, we quickly looked into them, and something clearly stood out about LovePotion9 and here we are. It doesn't matter if you were a member for 1 or 1000 days, we would have looked into it regardless as a result of the accusation, and once we did, it was very apparent something was different about that account. We only regret not having looked into it sooner. Needless to say, we are no longer going to be waiting for accusations before investigating potential Sock Puppets and have added new tools to make it even easier for us to detect them moving forward.
     
  4. nate

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    Well, I guess that makes me feel better. I'm glad that I'm not directly responsible for complicating another members account, and that admin agrees I'm a ass devoid of any credibility. Can only go up from here. Thanks for the response.
    And no KJ, I only read wov and don't post over there. I actually started reading the reviews and some gambling threads on wov.
    But did read your saga.
     
  5. LarryS

    LarryS Compulsive Liar Compulsive Liar

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    How do I know nate???? Because that's the loophole in the system.
    If someone doesn't care if their thoughts get attached to a name and just wants to get facts and opinions posted....then using the proxy system allows that and knowing the original ip is useless
    It's a fact.
    However if the admin does what he says...and continues to ask for ips...as he responded...then that takes care of the issue or the work around I described​
     
  6. Wizardofnothing

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    It's
    prolly a sock puppet for fff,he seems
    Like the type- literally
    Argued every single suspension and the comes here spouting the same
    Junk, I say good riddance
     
  7. KewlJ

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    I'll tell you this much.....I am not getting the "likes" that I was when LP3 was active, so I miss that. (I guess). lol
     

  8. LarryS

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    Maybe he was the one that set things in motion to get you here....you know...The initial post on wov
     
  9. KewlJ

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    Hun? o_O I am afraid you have lost me, which isn't that hard to do. :(
     
  10. LarryS

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    The person on wov who asked where you were..and got suspended
     
  11. Wizardofnothing

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    Yea that was the best ever
     
  12. KewlJ

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    Oh, bluechow? He's still here though isn't he?

    Bluechow, you still with us?

    Larry, now that you brought this up, does the admin have to investigate bluechow?

    What was funny about that wasn't bluechow's question, but Weasel's reaction. You could just see the steam coming out of his big ears at the mention of my handle, with the "I'm watching you" comment.
     
  13. LarryS

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    Imagine this scenario
    1 - lp9 is banned from wov....learns proxy use and starts a thread as bluechow
    2 - after all the uproar...blue chow comes here but not using proxies because that would show 2 people on one thread using proxies...so he uses his regular ip.

    3 - bluechow posts here for a while
    4- lp9 gets asked to post real ip
    5- this would link bluechow to him so he doesn't cooperate and threatens to take people with him as he walks out the door

    If there is a sock puppet it's not me or freddie or kj. And everyone else on the thread is either middle of the road or pro wov.
    The only one left is bluechow...you know the guy that appeared out of thin air.when the kj thread at wov was created.
     
  14. KewlJ

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    Wow, LarryS. This seems like a lot of speculation and guessing. I don't say that to defend bluechow. He can defend himself (or herself). Or maybe he can't....I don't even know who is here and who isn't anymore. :confused: I hope he/she is.

    Funny thing about the bluechow at WoV incident. I wasn't unhappy to read the question. I thought it was a legit question that deserved an answer. I also enjoyed Weasels little fit of a response to the question. I immediately wondered who bluechow was? Whether he was someone I knew as a different identity (handle) from one of the sites, or whether he was truly just someone that sort of knew half the story and asked a legitimate question only to be treated poorly.

    During private communications with Weasel at that time, that were still on fairly civil terms, I even asked Mike who he thought it might be. I was shocked when he said he originally thought it might be me. I guess I am a little naïve on these kinds of things. It never occurred to me that anyone would think that until he said so. Of course then I realized probably others thought that as well. Not that it matters all that much.
     

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    Of course you weren't KJ, everyone had just forgot about you and all the drama, it was great timing. .
     
  16. RS

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    LP9 is over on vegascasinotalk now, trying to stir up more shit.

    Looks like your guys' supreme leader has turned on you.

    Of course, LarryS and 1BB, i mean freddy, will never admit they've been duped with their leader running away, attacking this forum he used to cherish.
     
  17. Admin Team

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    To be clear, the reason LovePotion9 provided there for their use of a VPN...
    ...is completely different to the reason they provided to us here via PM. This "changing of stories" and erratic behavior is characteristic of someone who has been caught deceiving others (e.g. a Sock Puppet). Again, it's not proof, just growing circumstantial evidence.

    We will not be engaging with what this member says elsewhere any further as we have no interest in doing so, we just wanted to point out this new discrepancy as it confirms we made the right decision by preemptively limiting their account until they cooperate in order to protect the integrity of our community. As a result of this new discrepancy and growing circumstantial evidence, the burden of that cooperation has now also increased, so they will not have their account limits lifted until they agree to no longer connect to our site via a proxy or VPN.
     
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  18. bluechow

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    Yes, I'm still here. Never went anywhere. Not a sock puppet. Investigate away. Any more questions?
     
  19. LarryS

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    Kj..of course it's speculation....I figured you were smart enough to realize that from my first sentence .
    Just saying if if if ...There is a sock puppet that prevented lp9 from giving ip....that's my guess via process of elimination...bluechow. and I gave the reason why...just from the process of elimination.
    And the fact that his story changed as the admin posted leads me to think there was more reason for his exit than just leaving on principle
     
  20. Wizardofnothing

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    Of course it's a sock puppet and Freddy can't fix it so thank god he is gone and good riddance
     

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