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Roulette Making a simple system based on statistical data

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Come to think of it, repeats don't excist either in an independant game as roulette is. If each spin is an independant event from the previous spin, then repeats don't excist!
     
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    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    and once a number becomes hot (in roulette terms) and you start to bet on it, it can instantly go cold for 300+ spins just like any other number. There is really no difference in betting a number that hasn't appeared over a number that has appeares twice in 10 spins for example. Same odds.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That tired comment is all you have ?
    I guess I have to live stream from the table - then you'll change your nonsense to something else.
    "The casino let him win" or some other nonsense.
    Like I said, I will make more in profits in 2020 than you will with your unicorns.
    A hard pill to swallow but you'll find a way - then you'll change your preferred comments to something
    else, maybe bring back the kid pushing the "pull" door, or the "Mike shaking his head" gif.
    Sadly that's all you have for ammo - and reciting things from others, high fives to the others
    who don't listen either... don't worry, you'll keep yourself busy.
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Jekhb,

    I can tell that you now have some real world gambling experience. You're already more experience and wiser than most players.

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  5. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    yes.
    Funny, online playing with fun money was great and thought, well, this is it, ot works! RS etc Rx. all went great, until i went and put the same system against a real live table....
    Poooof, bye bye money :)
     
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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    He has experience in how not to win - that's where this all came from.
    That was his own doing.

    And of course in your eyes - the only system player is one who loses.
    A winner is just someone who hasn't played long enough.
    Sad. But hey - you have another ally now for the misfits group.
    Maybe consolidate so that your group only has to post once that "nothing works"
    instead of each misfit doing it individually like a broken record that no one here
    is interested in hearing.
     
  7. Jerome

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    Yes, it can. But that isn't the way Turbo is betting. And how many numbers can simultaneously go cold at the moment you start betting on them, and also follow the numbers you're switching to?

    And I think just saying it's RANDOM is a bit of a cop out. Since RANDOM means unpredictable there's really no point in even trying, is there?

    It's kinda fun trying to make sense of randomness, if nothing else.

    We can say "it's random", as though this doesn't just mean "I don't understand it". Or we could try to understand it and maybe learn something in the process.
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'll PM you random producing non-random results.
    Then you can be the judge and test away at it, like some people you'll see that suddenly it's
    not so "unpredictable" after all - but only because it is random.
     
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    What is good about this thread is that Turbo has posted a COMPLETE idea. As seen on the 1st page.
    No guessing then. So thumbs up for that.
    Now the long running debate over whether his ideas have any merit compared to random bets should be solvable.
    I could try to test it in BASIC (in chunks of 12 spins, maybe 1,000 runs of 12 spins and test the +/-)
    But if anyone could do this in RX I would be very grateful.
    After all, this debate has gone on for years, it would be great to solve once and for all !!
     
  10. jekhb1976

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    Again, we will all shut up if you just explained the math behind it all. until then i can have a horse in my livingroom also.
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    Does the number of pockets determine the probability of hitting on a number?

    And if not...

    In the random game, how do past numbers PHYSICALLY affect the number of pockets in which the ball can land?

    Can you perhaps show us the math?

    Maybe some logic too??
     
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    it won't be solved, because he gets a kick out of it, seeing us running in circles over and over again.
     
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    again, if he shows the math and for example how to win at least 1 unit in 400 spins and why? this will go on forever. But he can't show us that tiny grail either, because a 100% win after a certain amount of spins doesn't excist.
     
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    Even with the most modern wheels VB has made a comeback . This according to one publication .


    Cannot recollect specific source .


    ND
     

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    Now i'm starting to reply to myself :) see what you are doin' to us kids turbo? :)
     
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    there isn't
     
  17. TurboGenius

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    Thanks for giving me a headache.
    Have to post in such a way Sir No One understands it.

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  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Testing Turbo's system is childishly simple.

    1. After the dealer spins, count the number of pockets on the wheel.
    2. Apply Turbos bet selection method.
    3. Count the number of pockets on the wheel again.
    4. Did the number of pockets change? If not, then why should the probability of winning have changed?
    5. Continue the process spin after spin to see if the number of pockets changes. If it doesn't, then the probability of winning isn't changing either.

    Logic, it's always in the way.
     
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    I think that's a red herring, at least as far as I understand what Turbo is trying to do. And you could say the same thing about tracking for bias wheels. When trying to locate a bias wheel you're looking at the distribution of numbers. Turbo bets locations based on the shape of distributions, which really isn't so different (ironically) from what you're doing.

    Maybe the reason why nobody has been able to replicate his claimed results is because they're looking at the wrong distributions. The payout being short is also a red herring; in itself that doesn't stop you from winning as long as your advantage is big enough.
     
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    But Jerome,
    There is no such thing as having an advantage in roulette at some point/time in the game. Who on earth made these things up anyway? Advantage, Hot, Cold, Repeaters, Sleepers, Cycles..... it's all nonsense. You have 37 numbers on the wheel. 18 even, 18 odd and a zero. 18 black, 18 red and a green devil. that's all there is to it, nothing more, nothing less. every spin we have the same change zero will appear or a black, red number. There is no advantage, period.
     

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