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TurboGenius Math and the art of describing randomness

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Wolfie, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    First off, i would like to say, that you are right what will happen. There's only one problem though....let's say i take the first number that have turned into a repeat (first cycle)
    Now the goal is to see if this repeat will be the first 3! this sometimes works, even if we take the first 3 repeats it is not set on stone that one of these will become the first 3!
    Now we can go many directions with this type of bet. if we are not right, we can bet the next race, first 3 to 4 etc etc etc
    Or we can keep our first 3 repeats amd see if they will be the second 3, fail, will they be the 3rd 3 etc etc etc.
    But betting like this even with a progression won't get you amywhere. Bankroll problem, Time problem (too many spins) etc. so even thouth the core idea is great, it's a very hard bet to take. i have tested this idea a long time ago, with other members and i never found a propper way to play this.
     
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  2. Bombus

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    Not that you asked me, but I guess so.
     
  3. Bombus

    Bombus Well-Known Member

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    Sincerely, I think you'd be good at that.
     
  4. Bombus

    Bombus Well-Known Member

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    So what are you trying to say?
     
  5. gizmotron

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    I would be. It's also a tax's free zone. Not only is everything symbolically free, either by local government fiat, but there are things like confiscated "K" rails and 4 ton blocks, and you can get all the car parts for your car or truck that you want for free. There's tons of free food stands all supplied by the largess of idiots that think it's all marvelous. But best of all is that soon you will be able to bring civil actions against cops that will no longer be protected by qualified immunity. But that's just in the "Trip Free Life" zone. You poor bass turds out there in the real world will now be able to be sued by the same cops for not cooperating with them. And that little hang up about double jeopardy will be scrapped too. So you get jail time and then you get sued into oblivion after you get out. It's all good man. Everything is designed to give government and private sector litigators more work and an endless supply of recipients of their new and improved judicial fairness. Yep, I love it. It's fun to give libtards everything that they want, knowing that they will even love all the unintended consequences that will follow even more.
     
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  6. Rulet

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    Cdn,
    Say I am betting each race first 2 numbers to hit 3x, I lost 3x race, I start betting on the 4x race first 2 numbers to hit 4x, lost that race too, carrying on with the 5x race.
    I am down 100 units, there’s no way I can recoup 100 units flat betting.
    My question is what’s my bet size starting the 5x race?
     
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  7. Rulet

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    I worked out how to play it.
    Can you suggest something for the progression?
     

  8. 6th-sense

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    I shouldn’t have really said anything..probably a little too much information..spur of the moment thing just to show you what’s what ..
    But to be honest I think it’s a little above 99% of everyone
    I’ll tone it down a bit the 1% I think would understand what I said..
    So carry on nothing to see here
     
  9. Rulet

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    Don’t bother I worked it out
     
  10. gizmotron

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    It all comes down to the golden ratio, not the law of thirds, or a magical assumption.

     
  11. jekhb1976

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    that's what i mean! there's no way around this.
    Maybe if you have infinite time and infinite bankroll. i've tested this so much the last few years and i never found a solution how to play thia within a decent time frame and come out always +1 at least.
     
  12. Rulet

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    I mean some sessions are really easy,
    There are two types of sessions:
    1. One or two numbers go crazy hot and you are out of there before 100 spins.
    2. Barely any crazy hot number and upto 8 or more numbers in every race.
    The second one I think should be terminated ASAP with an acceptable deficit.
    Last night I had a number 2 very hard to sequeze anything out
     
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  13. jekhb1976

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    What progression type would be best suited for this, flat it won't work. i was messing around with +1 every lost race, but that is also hard to come out in plus. Maybe we should use a more agressive bet, like +2 or evem a marti for every lost battle. assuming we play only two numbers.
     
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    1. first 2 1s become first 2. lose 1u
    2. first 2 2s become first 3. lose 2u
    3. first 2 3s become first 4. lose 4u
    4. first 2 4s become first 5. lose 8u
    5. first 2 5s become first 6. lose 16u
    6. first 2 6s become first 7. lose 32u
    7. first 2 7s become first 8. lose - stop.

    max spin session: 185.
     

  15. jekhb1976

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    just a thought
     
  16. jekhb1976

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    We only aiming for 1 hit. -) profit -) We're out
     
  17. jekhb1976

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    The goal i'm aiming for is to find a bet that at least grand us 1 unit (could be every chip size) within a 185 spinwindow. (playable in every casino.

    that is my goal. so we need to find some type of bet that will grand us always 100% more sessions then losing ones within that spinframe.
     
  18. jekhb1976

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    It's not impossible, but hard to find.
    I know my averages for numbers in a 185 spimframe. how many 2's how many 3's how many 4's how manu 5's how many 6's overal you will see a min of. now we need to tackle it.
     
  19. jekhb1976

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    you can't bet all, just a few, but a few should be enough to win atleast 1 unit everytime we play.
     
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  20. jekhb1976

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    What if we just stick to let's say 1st dozen alone or 2nd, 3rd? just a race between 12 numbers instead of 37?
    or a race between only the even or odd numbers, only a race between 18 numbers?

    first 2 1s in first dozen for example to become a 2. lost, first 2 2s in first dozen to become a 3? etc etc etc.

    again just thinking ouy loud.
     

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