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TurboGenius Math and the art of describing randomness

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Wolfie, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. Rulet

    Rulet Active Member

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    What I don’t quite understand is when you know who says ;
    If you’re playing the top 3 numbers all the time, it’s not that, so less than 3 numbers? Or maybe more than 3?
    Say at 3x onwards just play all the first place horses all the way down to 11x?
    Like 8 numbers but some races will have the same winners so less than 8
    I might try this
     
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  2. Naughty but nice

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    Rulet; I asked, who’d be sitting in a B+M for 192 spins, leaning and recording.

    But, if you look spin 80, circled with blue. 3-5-10-17 are hot. Soon #26 is hot. So, here those 5 are hot. But if, Rulet started betting at spin 81, are these numbers going to be hot for him?

    As the spins go by are these 5 filling the 4 spots, or are other numbers filling the 4 spots, for Rulet.

    The jump off spin was 103; think what Eugene would be doing.
     
  3. jekhb1976

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    the problem is that in theory you only need to be right 2 times in lets say 185 spins using a 1-5 progression. but the problem remains, how to know one or two hits will come!
    i have had sessions were the top number was jumping from one # to the next and never the same for over 280 spins!!!! it wont happen often, but when it does, you will lose not only money, but also a hard day at your BM.
     
  4. Rulet

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    Yeah that’s the real problem when I start betting my first 3x it could be someone else’s 10x, so charting previous spins is a must to see what’s been happening, 2 cycles?
    I know what you mean 2nd or 3rd numbers becoming 1st or even 4th or 5th place taking the lead, nowhere near perfect this system.
    But when you get that crazy hot number, it’s like taking a candy from a baby
    Maybe when u encounter a difficult session, best to quit early and take a small loss and start a new sesh?
     
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  5. Smitridel

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    I dont think that CDN meant "a couple" literally (2 numbers).
    Progression wise
    This.
    I think the crucial part is that the LoT can be applied in any equally (almost) given sub-sum of a finite set of numbers.
     
  6. 6th-sense

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    Law of the third is just an average..think of what turbo said plus or minus a few from the average it’ll make or break you..you need to think how that part and it’s own Lott or as I say mechanics of roulette...you cannot constantly wait for 24 numbers out to get turbos statistics 7 out of 9..thats usually the end of the cycle..

    the excel sheet I posted nicksmi made for me shows the The averages each spin at the end of the cycle ..

    There is a certain percentage of 24 numbers out and above throughout the cycles if you take it spin by spin..

    But if you look at the wave form and ranges it can adjust throughout that range up and down..back and forth before that range is met

    therefore the next steps are to look at the mechanism that the rolling 37 allows and adjust..all states cannot change at the same time ..

    unhits unique repeats..one has to stay constant next spin..
    On a rolling basis

    that’s why it’s a wave form ..

    this is an explanation of toned down a bit

    but even in this mechanism of roulette applies BUT in this thought process you actually have a wave to work on and the mechanism of roulette especially with zero included in any one if the groups...

    That is pretty basic for the 99% but never talked or heard from before on any forum I know

    no doubt Sergio the hg master would work this out or how to apply it

    repeats are not only limited to single numbers

    not only limited to dyslexic ideas or vaddi Rrbb redwarf Priyanka or anything you can think of ..

    systems work when there in sync with THAT part of the stage that coincide with it..then when out of sync they start losing

    So you have to get right in there and try and decipher the actual mechanism of the three states

    now I think this explanation everyone can understand the logic

    So I’ll let you contemplate on it
     
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  7. CarloDarlo

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    I believe this "problem" was solved by utilizing multiple banks. Example Roulette simulator info rated play has banks of 3k. So if you get a nightmare session your down 3k. You will have alot of losing session.... But the winning ones when the example "8" goes 4x,5x,6x,7x,8x,9x. will pay for the losing.
     

  8. PersonS

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    I disagree that it is 16 spins, rbbr is 1 of 16 combinations. 1 combination equals 4 spins. 16x4 = 64 spins, so it is 1 time out of 64.
     
  9. SERGIO

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    It seems that you miss me sixth sense, you always have me in mind, but I can assure you that I have in my hands the true way to win at roulette as explained by Mr. Vaddis and I know that you think you know it and I really believe that none from this and other forums you have obtained it as I have done.
    It's a shame that people always talk bad about me, but I'll tell you something, the same thing you can do in a group of 37, you can do it in a smaller one, the problem is that you will do it to a lesser degree and if you don't want to be sometimes a large number of balls, you are interested in a progression like the one that Turbo clearly explains and the results are fantastic. Neither you the great sixth sense, you could reduce it as much as vaddis did and as I can, I could play alone looking for a temporary imbalance even of a single number, but it's not worth it, a larger group is better.
    And I tell you more, it is not necessary to include the unsuccessful, it is silly to play something flat, when you can play something that is going to happen aggressively, we would be silly to waste time sometimes in hundreds of balls, when in normal time we could win what in a month of flat bets.
    Temporary changes happen in many ways, of course not only the repeated ones, also the unique ones, also the unsuccessful ones, but why get complicated, if something happens, exploit it in the best way you can and without making it complicated, I was always involved in that according to Turbo! I expose myself as little as possible, but with great victories.

    Greetings and good luck!!
     
  10. SERGIO

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    I forgot to tell you "expert", that nothing I read in the forums and all the stuff about data flows, etc etc, has to do with dyksexlic, you are quite wrong.
    Everything is simpler, he says it clearly in his tracks, repetition of the distribution by cycles, they are repetitive loops because logically there are no more numbers than 37.
    Anyway, you still have something to gain but it has nothing to do with vaddis and dyksexlic, nor do you know how to do it.
    I will tell you very clearly!
    Vaddis, moments of temporary imbalances that happen yes or yes, just as there are times when things don't work out, there are others that come out more than usual, there are no more.
    Dyksexlic, moments in which the cycles repeat with a distribution similar to that formed in a previous cycle, in short, repetition of the numerical distribution.
    Anyway, I may have already said much more than I had to say, but it makes me sad to see people following so-called "experts" who really don't know the truth.

    Luck!!
     
  11. Bombus

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    Well you got that bit right.
     
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  12. 6th-sense

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    but it makes me sad to see people following so-called "experts" who really don't know the truth.

    totally agree...

    moments of temporary imbalances that happen yes or yes, just as there are times when things don't work out, there are others that come out more than usual, there are no more

    your just describing any system here sergio...

    i take it these post are to get a reaction out of me because i have not replied to your messages on skype ?

    Dyksexlic, moments in which the cycles repeat with a distribution similar to that formed in a previous cycle, in short, repetition of the numerical distribution.

    and this sergio is completely wrong....you have no idea how much....i would point you towards trd/hardman he is as close along the fringe lines to anyone ive seen in a certain analytic way ..
     
  13. SERGIO

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    Do you think I care if he answers me or not? Do not make me laugh please!
    Possibly he spoke to you a couple of times a year, just to ask how you are doing, at no time did he ask you for anything.

    Regarding TRD, I can only say that he is a person I do not know, but I know that he is really dedicating a lot of time and effort to him and I admire him, surely he could also admire me if he saw the time and dedication that I also put into him , but for my part you have my respects!
    But I repeat and I can assure you that he is not doing the dyksexlic form correctly!
    And I can say something very clearly, the previous numbers do tell you a lot about what can and will happen in the near future, but that only ends up being shown when you spend years and years working nonstop every day.
    I don't have much more to say, just that if you look carefully at dyksexlic's quotes, he says things very clearly, such as:
    Flat game, group of numbers kept on hold, repetition of distribution, etc etc.
    Where are all those forms that have been invented about data flows and many other things that have not wasted everyone's time so much?
    Things are easier than what I see in various forums, there are only 37 numbers, the numbers repeat because there are only 37 and the roulette continually repeats processes because it can't help but do it because there are only 37 numbers.
    But the problem is that everyone went astray and did not work on their own ideas to find out, everyone follows the so-called experts, but who says that any of us does not have an expert inside, but it is easier to listen than the others do and work according to what these people do, there is the error!

    I only invite people to take a good look at what dyksexlic and vaddis are talking about, but take out your ideas and your ways of seeing it, there are fewer and fewer ways and your head thinks more and more and in the end, an idea will come out that you will see everything differently and You will realize that only you and you are the only one who can reach such a place, after discarding hundreds of things that have failed.

    anyway...
     
  14. SERGIO

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    For example, let's go with vaddis!
    People think that you have to play the last 8 numbers and that's it, lie!
    We have all tried a thousand different ways to play the last 8 numbers and it doesn't work, why do they continue with that?
    Vaddis gave the base, 24/8 and 12/4, which is a reduction of the law of the third, we could even get to 6/2 or 3/1...
    What does all this say?
    Try to understand this well and then continue, a wide range of forms and ideas will open up, but first try to understand everything well and then go on to look for ideas to take advantage of it.
    Add looking at the marquee, 12 numbers is normal!
    I play between 6-9 numbers, why?
    Where is the balance in 12 balls.
    And in 37 and in 24?
    What is the balance in 12 balls?
    8 unique and 4 repeated? Why? Is 4 unique and 4 repeated in 12 balls a perfect balance?
    Do we have to find the perfect balance? or is that balance +- 1-2 same as in 37?
    Does 4u+4r really happen a lot?
    Why would vaddis say look for temporary imbalances?
    The 6-9 is where our game is in 12 spins because it is the most frequent thing to happen?
    If it does, so would the pairing? And the other pairing too?
    And if we use 6-9 in 12 for couples?
    Well, I could spend all night saying important things that are logical, once you know what, when and why...
    In any case, they will continue to tell me how bad I have been because people are not serious and responsible with the agreements on something so serious...

    Make statistics and you will see how everything is there, everything is fulfilled and of course there are connections, of course chance is predictable in periods of time, of course the previous numbers have to do with the future ones, etc etc.

    Cheers
    PS: sorry to Turbo, for talking about this in this thread!
     

  15. SERGIO

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    I could leave more than one with their mouths open if I decided to start talking about everything I have discovered, after 18 years without stopping and leaving many people along the way who gave up and I continued without stopping!
    I could demonstrate if I wanted how the vaddis form works and the different forms that can be applied outside of its forms and those discovered by myself with work and effort.
    The new ideas and forms that I myself have designed with more work and that I continue to work on day by day!
    The same could be done with the form of Dyksexlic!
    And I'm still doing the same with the Turbo forms, not yet fully mastered, but quite clear and with forms that give more profits than losses, much more, but I'm still not satisfied and I'm still working!
    And even so, I will continue working no matter what I find, no matter how good it is, I will continue working and nobody is going to tell me what I have done, what I have achieved and what I will continue doing and achieving, because there can always be more, you can always reach more and above all, my head is light and always on the go!
    And I respect all those who get into this world and courageously try to discover and understand how it works and how you can win, because it is a great challenge and a great satisfaction to achieve something that you propose, because we are more than what we believe and do not value, but each of us can reach much more than you imagine, it only takes time, effort, will and never give up!
    A person like me tells you, who has no studies of any kind due to lack of interest in what they teach us since childhood, but once I discovered what interested me and now I am passionate about it, there is no way to stop and learn more every day !
    Cheer up guys, you can all achieve it and you will achieve it, but it will not be easy and you will not achieve it in two days, you will need a lot of time and dedication.
    Sometimes I ask myself if what I have achieved is really worth hiding or sharing, even though it has cost me so much.... I really think that one day it will be time to share it and help others, because I think that what I know what you are doing in most forums is cruel and absurd, because the enemy is called casino and I think there should be more camaraderie and respect among those of us who dedicate ourselves to this!
    It is also true that giving something to anyone is not fair, but to a person who has spent a decade or more and does not get it, I think that those of us who know should help more or try to teach them what we know so that they can achieve their goal and go for the enemy number 1 that is the casino!
    Anyway, one day I surprise a group of people who have been fighting for this for many years and I reveal what I know, with nothing in return!
     
  16. 6th-sense

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    a few pointers sergio....

    this comment

    The same could be done with the form of Dyksexlic!

    this cannot be adjusted...if you think you have this method please give the breakdown of the bankroll and why its there...

    this comment

    I think that what I know what you are doing in most forums is cruel and absurd, because the enemy is called casino and I think there should be more camaraderie and respect among those of us who dedicate ourselves to this!

    i do not do anything cruel or absurd...i worked with ayk to improve the ayk tracker to what it is...he even asked if i would like to keep my own personnel tracker attached which is on the right hand side of the tracker...which i did..

    iv,e gave most excel sheets for the streams for rrbb thread..even the java one ayk made for me..i,ve given numerous sheets all over the place when people asked if anyone had them...

    this comment

    I think that those of us who know should help more or try to teach them what we know so that they can achieve their goal and go for the enemy number 1 that is the casino!

    i have tried ..and mainly everything i know is shared with a select private group..whom i trust totally...you are not the enemy i agree...but when you preach about teaching i have never seen you provide anything or talked yourself about anything...talk about two face standards...
    i suggest if you feel this way you should start your own thread up and talk about your methods..
     

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