Roulette Math Players vs System Players

Just because you could'nt figure out how to use one of them, doesn't mean they are no more valid.
In maths terms this game is unbeatable, everyone knows that.

 

I feel sorry for any newbie reading these forums. Too many systems players giving false hopes of a way to beat roulette. Sadly some people are desperate enough to try anything.

Using a martingale in 2021? Seriously?

 

Wow, we agree on something. A dark day..

 

Martingale is the only winning progression.

 

thanks for your reply draa. i note your reply doesn't address the concepts in a simple, clear and practical way. but if you wish to hold true to the mathematical one-liners, you're certainly entitled to.

 

and just because most gamblers can't figure out how any system can beat the casinos, doesn't mean it theoretically can't be done.

 

I really meant it!
Mathematically the house edge will always win.

If someone has a method to win, it's nothing more than knowing how to exploit a positive variance with some method...
But any method that is placed for example running 24h the house will win.

 

not everyone would agree with you.

 

Sooo interesting, but nothing is understandable)))
Interestingly, also because many times I wanted to write something, but did not write. Of course I won't write anything clever, but it's just thoughts out loud.
I want to say that Vaddy constantly appears on the forum. Well, or at least I see him everywhere. Lucky constantly mentions him, Turbo has many things in tune with Vaddy, etc. But Raf has such very close contacts with Vaddy.
For example, one of the important questions V. had was that he asked about understanding the relationship between singles and repetitions after every 37 spins. That such a question was of course raised only by Raf. Now things are not clear to me, of course, what Raf writes about, but what is connected with the relationship between the first 24 and the last 13 rotations. While in relation to V.'s question about the relationship between the numbers, he asked further, what should we think about when, basically, repetitions begin to appear on the roulette wheel with greater frequency - at the beginning, in the middle or at the end of 37 spins? And I think everyone agrees that this always happens more often at the end of the last 13 spins. It would seem to be a very strong observation, but here's how to use?...
By the way! Regarding the latter, I recently had thoughts about "lott everywhere". And specifically, that after all, and for 10 cycles, the lott should also be distributed. And I was thinking, what should happen after 10 cycles in relation to sleepers, singles and repetitions. And in theory there should be the same lott. I.e. after 370 spins there should be all the same 12 numbers above average (i.e. 12 numbers will hit more than 10 times), 12 numbers near average (i.e. 12 numbers will hit 10 times) and 12-13 numbers below average (less than 10 hits). But it's not like that!!! When Turbo created the hot and cold thread it's always 50/50, then he was right, I checked! By 370 spins, there will not be 12 numbers that will hit the average (i.e. 10 times), but there will be only 3-4 numbers that will hit 10 times, and the rest are divided in half into hot and cold! Why is Lott not kept here a mystery to me?... And so it would be possible to take the last 120-130 spins and knock out repetitions based on hot ones))
Good. but that's what prompted me to bring my thoughts out loud. This is symmetry. I really don't know anything about it in roulette, no matter how much I looked and tested from different sides, but I didn't realize that the symmetry was like that. I don't understand it now. But, recently I decided to reread Vaddy. Unfortunately, I didn't see anything new for myself. Although I already know it by heart and it constantly turns in my head when I read the forum and try to compare it with what they write, nevertheless I forgot something. And when rereading the last time, what I forgot was just in the topic about the RNG, which Shank recently created, and I answered it somewhere.
And the forgotten thing about the rng turns out to be about symmetry. As I mentioned, he wrote that there may not be repetitions in a row on the rng, when it will be often on the real wheel. Okay, that's one thing. And another thing, he also said that the rng can produce asymmetric reproduction by numbers! And it still makes me think about it, what is it? And of course I was surprised that no one had written about symmetry before that day, except Raf. And I think symmetry is a kind of basis in the Waddy system. Because in the end, at the end, he writes that all the elements in roulette have a mirror. And that you can use singles and repeats to predict sleepers. And in relation to this, that the numbers are constantly trying to balance with each other and there are ways to temporarily exploit the imbalances. And also a very interesting moment when one of Vaddy's opponents wrote that it was all smoke and mirrors, then Vaddy laughed. And behind him, the guy who figured out his system also laughed. At first I thought they were just laughing at him, and then it dawned on me that they were laughing, that he essentially said what this system was, although he didn't even suspect it))
So Raf is certainly intriguing about the relationship between numbers and symmetry. But it turns out to be not so easy there. Therefore, I am not surprised that I have not disclosed system V. for all these years.

 

Platton, everyone understand Turbo hot, cold idea.

Vaddi was a popular author of his unique neighbour idea. Few understand him.

Both of their ideas are similar on opposite side of the mirror. That's the symmetry.

Because of Vaddi, there's Turbo.
Because of Turbo, there's Vaddi.

I wouldn't have found the solution if not for Vaddi's idea.

I see Turbo as the original image, Vaddi is his symmetry on the mirror. Both of them are 2 half's of the entire.

I understand Turbo's idea because of Vaddi's idea. If not for Vaddi, I understand nothing.

My breakthrough came from the symmetrical mirror reflection, Vaddi.

All I did was to gel and translate both their ideas into finance and math - a very small counting part. The great ideas belong to both of them.

 

The shell game above is ridiculous. The number of pockets determines the probability of winning, not the prior numbers hit. You can easily prove that this Vaddi person is full of shit by looking down and counting the open numbers.

 

Yep, but the probability of winning does not determine the actual outcome of winning.

 

Who is that Vadidi cat ? A shoe maker from Naples ?

 

And it doesn't matter. The fact you're shorted on the true payoff and you cannot overcome this fact is what does matter.

This is why guys like you post on internet forums all day long while guys like me are instead rarely posting and in casinos all day long making bank.

 

if you think what you posted about Vaddi pairings are right, you are sooo wrong, sooo far away from it.

 

Right? .. Wrong.
https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=2163

 

Ok, I am wrong to you.
So you solved Vaddi's holy grail. Congrats.

I wrote, I don't have issues when others express their opinion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Cheers

 

IF Blaise Pascal were alive today he would be R O F Laughing his ass off .

 

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it is not about being right or wrong, it is about noticing what happens in a 37 spin sequence