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Blackjack MDawg Blackjack Challenge

Discussion in 'Blackjack Forum' started by KewlJ, Oct 9, 2021.

  1. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    I am going to post this at the two forums I post at that Mdawg posts at or has posted at, here GF and VCT.

    So since Mdawg has expanded his "magical winning fantasy" to include blackjack, he has posted about 20 high limit private table, blackjack sessions, winning 18 and losing 2 for a total of + $135,675. He talks about "spreading $200 to $5000 or $10,000". In blackjack card counting "spreading" is defined as the minimum wager when the player is not at an advantage and the player's top or Max bet when he is playing with an advantage.

    No Las Vegas casino would allow Mdawg to spread like this if he were card counting and moving money with the count, so he is probably referring to "spreading" as varying his wagers according to his (losing) progressive wagering system. Progression wagering cannot over come negative expectation.....Period!

    So I propose we put Mdawg and his magical winning ways to the test. No high money wager because that NEVER works. Those wagers can always be manipulated and corrupted with collaboration with an arbitrator. I want to remove the arbitrator and allow the forum members to be the arbitrator so to speak.

    So here is what I am proposing: No money involved, just a chance for Mdawg to prove his claims to the huge majority of members that doubt him (all but his sockpuppets).

    So I will make myself or someone else available to witness and film the next 20 Mdawg blackjack sessions. The filming shouldn't be an issue. If slot lady and others can film blackjack sessions at casinos, I am quite sure a highroller like Mdawg, and his Host that can arrange anything can set this up at a private table for such an important player. All I request is that the cards be spread out as normal casino procedure to ensure they are all there.

    So I or someone of my choosing will be available with 30 minutes notice to witness and film Mdawgs next 20 sessions to be shown on the forums. And let's just see if he wins $135k, or half that or wins at all. Oh, and you have my word that your anonymity will be protected as we will not show your face.

    This is a free roll for you Mdawg to prove all the doubters wrong. The expense and inconvenience will all be on my end. We can start to settle these magical claims, starting on the blackjack end and who knows maybe moving on to baccarat after that.

    Awaiting your response.
     
  2. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    Filming someone's play in a casino is ludicrous. How about I witness your play?
     
  3. coach belly

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    Good call Tater.

    MDawg should accept only if tewlj agrees to have 20 sessions of his play filmed as well.

    They can each choose a witness, and alternate playing at the same tables.

    Put up or shut up...we await tewlj's response.
     
  4. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Coach belly, as I answered you on another forum, my claims don't defy the mathematics, and how things work in Las Vegas. Nor have I made any claims that are a 1 in 89 QUADrillion chance, such as 60 winning hands in a row (regardless of when it was).

    This really doesn't involve you or Tater. So I would appreciate it if you would cease your trolling.
     
  5. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    Kj writes:
    For a guy that seeks the attention that Mdawg seeks, so much so that he has been posting these ridiculous claims and "adventures" for several years now on 4 or 5 different forums, this is a change for him to shine. Prove everyone wrong and get the attention he seeks.

    TATER Says: Right back at you KJ.
     
  6. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a cop-out to me. How about you Coach?
     
  7. coach belly

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    Yes it is a cop-out, and I prefer to keep advising both MD and tewlj about how to make this challenge happen.

    As it stands now, tewlj needs to either put up or shut up, or folks will likely never stop harassing him over this latest blunder of his.
     

  8. redietz

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    You know, there might be a guy who doesn't care about anonymity, and who has a history of debunking paranormal and gambling claims, who would be happy to watch and/or film MDawg. You should probably get out the old Rolodex and see if he's available. Maybe take up a collection plate for a per diem or something.
     
  9. coach belly

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    Or call Billy Walters and see if he still has his number.
     
  10. Tater

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    MY money goes on shut up. Of course, KJ will never shut up.
     
  11. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    MLK: We have a dweeb. ID LIKE TO SEE KJ count 2 tables. Or one table.:stig:
     
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  12. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    1. KJ writes to Coach:
      Look fuckwad. Stop playing your asshole games. You are not a lawyer and I don't recognize any authority for you to speak for Mdawg. This is my challenge, it is to Mdawg and not you. The challenge was made of Mdawg, not you.
    TATER WRITES: Hey needle dick. AND I issued the same challenge to you.

    WHAT MAKES YOU SO fucking special that you can issue a challenge you won't back up yourself?

    Once again KJ overloaded his ass with his mouth and is in PUT up or shut up land.

    YOU STUPID FUCK.
     
  13. Punkcity

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    Just a quick question kewlj, I proposed that you view a YouTube video about the guy that filmed 3 seasons o f high limit blackjack about 150 games approximately, with spread of $500 to $8000 on a number of videos. You basically told me I was an idiot and gullible , a fuck yard in la la land basically , and that the video is rigged must be in your opinion.
    so the question is if someone else proposed the video and is a fool, WHY are you propose the same scenario ?
    No need for a shit fight just asking why it’s ok for you but every one else is stupid?
    Double standard?
    Don’t do as I do do as I say ?
    Certain rules don’t apply to you ?

    Just asking because you and others I’ve read on the interverse all say how hard it is , how you are are in fear of being banned, the margin is slim etc. yet here is a guy post a 150 plus games min 500 to 8000 in a legitimate casinoverse and he’s not counting, he’s taking $5000 to $125000 in 30 minutes maximum. Not every game played obviously. Yes read that again dietz not every game played. It means some or one or two games at $5000 profit and a game at $125000 profit.
    Do
    You
    Comprehend
    Dietz?
    or is your American interpretation haywire.
    perhahs dietz you could stop mind melding with your lower anal passage and read with your eyes open for a change, or not lol.

    So kewlj why are you exempt?
    While the rest of us are idiots. Just asking? I understand if you just shot your mouth off as a knee jerk reaction to the original post by me on another thread, if that’s the case bit sad as far as credibility goes don’t you think.
    To clarify I no longer play blackjack as we have continuous shuffle machines that play for infinity , just played cards are straight away put back into the shuffle after each hand, here in skipptophia casinoverse, they got phased in about 15 years ago give or take.
    But listening to you zenking etc nope doesn’t add up.
    Reply or don’t was not a loaded question.
    Cheers
     
  14. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    I would like to see you both present a 20 session video, not to see who is the best but to see how you both play high limit. Who wins is not the point because we all know every game is not the same and it would be ludicrous imho to claim so.
    If you win good enough, if you lose its variance or bad luck. Cheers
     

  15. Tater

    Tater Well-Known Member

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    Coach Belly lists:

    Mdawg Blackjack Challenge
    Started by kewlJ

    Mdawg blackjack
    Started by kewlJ

    Mdawg Data
    Started by kewlJ

    Mdawg revelation
    Started by kewlJ

    Marydawg, the AP
    Started by kewlJ

    The case against Mdawg
    Started by kewlJ

    Poll: Do you beleive MDawgs claims
    Started by kewlJ

    MDawg Poll
    Started by kewlJ

    Tater says: Interesting. KJ had a list of Moses threads when he knew I couldn't reply. ALONG with a long list of posting lies.

    Now he won't put up. What a wuss!
     
  16. KewlJ

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    Punkcity, I don't know what happens on Youtube, nor really care that much. I am a card counter who lives in Las Vegas, can walk to the strip if I want but don't play the strip all that much, although in this year of masks I have been playing the strip fairly regular on weekends. As a card counter I don't play CSM (continuous shuffle machines) where the cards are immediately replaced, although there are several different ways to gain an advantage against them. I do play ASM (Automatic Shuffle machines, that shuffle after the cut card comes out, same as the dealer would. ASM's although there is potential for a cheat mode that a player should be aware of, generally most regulated casinos, play it fair and legal and that results in some ASM being some of my best opportunities.

    I am not interested in playing any player. This isn't the wild west poker in a bar. Nor do I have the need or insecurity to engage in some sort of pissing contest. I play against the casinos and have made a living for 18 years. As for Mdawg, I don't care if he is winning or losing, as long as he is doing something to play with an advantage to back up all that winning claims. You just can't claim all this winning while doing nothing that would allow for it. If you are going to claim the winning he does there has to be something you are doing to turn the game to your advantage. That is all. Don't feed us this gut feeling crap. I also know exactly how Las Vegas works, even at levels that I don't play. I personally don't play high limit areas, not because I can't afford it, but because I know what a player can and can't do and get away with and more importantly how much the games are "hawked" in those locations.. Not only from my play and experiences but I network with a number of top and successful professional players, and even a friend that works the pit on the strip.

    This is my business. This is how I make a living. I know how things work and make it my business to know what is going on in this town. And what this guy is claiming, all the winning, all the freebies while winning, That casinos don't care about winning players, that every dealer, pit boss, casino executive thinks and tells him he is the best ever, is fantasy stuff.

    Actually everything Mdawg posts as part of his great fantasy adventure could be true and just how Las Vegas works if you include one thing that he is leaving out: The losing. If he is an overall losing player, then everything else makes sense, all the comps, everything. And that is probably what is happening. He is just leaving out all the losing sessions.

    As for Zenking, please don't mention me in the same breath. I have nothing against Zenking. I can appreciate what he wants to be and do. He may even be a good card counter by the mechanics of it. But the mechanics of card counting are about 5% of what is necessary to be a very good, long-term, long time winning player able to achieve some longevity and not wear out your welcome. He just has a lot to work on.
     
  17. Tater

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    KJ writes:
    I am not interested in playing any player

    TATER says. Then stop challenging and making up lies.

    KJ writes: I play against the casinos and have made a living for 18 years.

    Tater says: I will believe it when I see it. YOU want anonymity? THEN SHUT UP. NO one else is your little community is spouting off.
     
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  18. Tater

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    KJ writes: This is my business. This is how I make a living. I know how things work and make it my business to know what is going on in this town.

    TATER writes: Ditto. EXCEPT I don't need the money to make a living. DOESNT MAKE it less important.
     
  19. soxfan

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    Query, why do the ap-wiseguy and mathite get all self-righteous and wanna goon the crusade to save the unitiated cat from gettin clipped and blowin their cake, hey hey?
     
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  20. Punkcity

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    Rule number one
    Never trust anything a dealer says to you about anything. They may be a great person but they know sweet fuk all about anything they see each day. Have no comprehension skills, very very few can make the transition from dealing to professional player, hell some can’t even deal properly. Lol.
    No your friend on the strip, ditch that cow knows nothing. Upskill yourself, get better colleagues.
    Don’t worry about answering my question. Thank you it’s not needed
     

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