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Roulette Measuring Success

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Klausy, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    My systems strategy edge is so large, why would I use progressions?
     
  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    What do you feel your edge is over the casino? 5% edge? 10 %? 20%? Larger?
     
  3. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    I don't feel.

    I collect cash every time I play at b&m casinos any wheel any casino. The result is the same. The math is the same.

    Oh yes I do lose.
    The only thing I lose is my time.

    For the benefit of readers, read TwoUp posts for the basic math explanation. Read carefully, read every word he wrote. Read my posts. Combine both to get the complete picture.
     
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  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    In other words, you don't know how to calculate your edge.
     
  5. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    Edge calculation is kindergarten math.

    Why would I reveal it to you?

    You assume you're some roulette big shot when you're not. Lmao!

    Do you have money to play in b&m casino?
    Hahahahaha...

    Ofc your crew will help you do the usual jeering.
    Don't need money to punch keyboards. Lol
     
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  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    If you believe that you have an edge, which you really don't, then why do you use an up as you lose progression...or as I think you call it, a recovery progression? Mathematically negative progressions are very foolish.
     
  7. TwoUp

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    You really think it's such a hard calculation to divide net profit by amount wagered?

    That must be what's holding him back, you're convinced he hasn't learnt to add, subtract or divide yet.

    Or perhaps any claim of a positive number would just give you another grand standing opportunity to say it's impossible because you don't understand probability and variance.

    Because no one can ever win you claim, even though casinos would have gone out of business if that was actually the case. Variance does cut both ways.
     

  8. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    No, system junkies rely on luck, and don't have an edge. In the long run, luck isn't enough. There are APs, but you're definitely not one of them.

    Luckyfella pretends to have an edge, but uses an up as you lose progression, which mathematically is silly and very inefficient.
     
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  9. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    I will continue to reply the same,

    I win flatbet.

    The rsim graphs I posted show flatbet.
     
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  10. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Are already betting at table max? Then why do you talk about "recovery bets"...where you imply that you must increase your bets to recover your losses?
     
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  11. Luckyfella

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    Show proof that I wrote about "recovery" bets. "increase bets to recover losses".

    Post the link here.

    Else readers can see you are lying as usual.

    Typing lies on forum don't need money. Lmao!

    Oh, I can show proof that I wrote flatbet so many times.
     
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  12. Luckyfella

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    Btw I like your reply posts. Thumbs up. Lol
     
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    You do realise that you can win with variance alone as it beats house edge in the short term. It's the only reason anyone can lock up a session win.

    You can argue all you want but if you were correct then every gamblers would leave the casino with their bankroll less EXACTLY THE HOUSE EDGE of 1/37th what they bring into the casino.

    We know this is not the case and casino profits prove it is not the case, most bettors lose their bankroll due to negative variance, not the evil house edge wizard.

    You also don't realise that positive session returns favor both geometric profit curves and sustainability through bankroll doubling and splitting. Even non negotiable / dead chip programs provide another avenue to either profit or compensate from a losing session.

    I know this is beyond your comprehension and you will say it has to be impossible. It is not. The casino can lose $40+ million on just one syndicated gambler in one sitting, admittedly the bets were in the $250k - $500k range but variance eclipses the edge within a session.

    But you and your WoV buddies do dumb simpleton calculations out to millions of events where the house edge dominates. SMART BETTORS ARE NOT DOING THIS.
     
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  14. Luckyfella

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    Great post about real b&m casino gambling.
    Even the travel agents are exploiting the programs.

    Forum do dumb simpleton calculations. Lol
     
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  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Try as you might, in the long run you can NOT win or LOSE at a rate that will exceed the house edge in the random game or roulette.

    Casinos win around 20% or more of the "drop" because players recycle their money over and over as they try to win an amount that they feel would satisfy them. This does NOT mean that the house edge at roulette has changed.

    Nobody is talking about "dead chip programs," french fries, or onions. Also quit posting sentences that are out of context in order to make your argument. It makes you look silly.

    Money management can't turn a losing system into a positive one in the long run for the same reason that you can't multiply a negative number times a positive one and produce a positive out come. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
     
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  16. Luckyfella

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    Hey dickhead, where's the link? Lol

    Where's your "crew" to help you jeer?
     
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    He’s right Caleb, he never said anything about a recovery process or progression…you must have him confused with someone else.
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    He says it under his other name on this board, the reddimanthe.
     
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  19. Mako

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    They’re not the same guy. And Lucky isn’t CHT btw, TwoUp is.
     
  20. TwoUp

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    You're a simpleton, regurgitating WoV troupes.

    Now you're saying a non-neg chip program isn't in the players favour and doesn't reduce the house edge? You really are stupid.

    No one is saying the house edge doesn't exist.

    You realise there is no house edge on a loss? And you realise a dead chip program pays you a margin win lose or draw. They do matter but I guess fools like you are not eligible.
     

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