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Las Vegas Mickey Crimm's Expert Hotel Bargain Challenge

Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by redietz, May 5, 2023.

  1. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    I don't have to book the room for $50. I get it for free with resort fee's waved. But I could have easily set you up by calling a casino host and requesting they charge me something for the room, like $10 a night. I could have done that to start with and you wouldn't have known any better.

    Here is your first sentence from your original post in this thread:

    "Mickey claimed he could snag Room 861 at the Horseshoe in Las Vegas for fifty dollars a night."

    My claim was true. You seen the pics I put up. I can get the room a lot cheaper than $50. In your challenge you did not stipulate that comps don't apply. You did that ex post facto to weasel out of paying off. Making up the rules as you go to get out of paying your debt.

    You started out denigrating the jubilee rooms as inferior to the executive suites, then, you now denigrate the executive suites because you see that I can get them for free.

    You lost your challenge. Send the money to the Maven of Mercy Rescue Mission in Johnson City. Or would you rather I tell them to drop by your house and pick it up?
     
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  2. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    You were right.
     
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    You're right. Why would I stay in the Horseshoe when I can stay next door or across the street. Comped. LOL.

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  4. redietz

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    Good try, mickey. But you didn't get 861 for $50 a night. You can get it with a comp. Now go try to get it for $50 a night.

    Using coach belly's precision, I never challenged you to just get the room. I challenged you to get it for $50 a night. You have thus far failed to do that.

    Any degenerate can get a room comped. There's a reason the offer says "COMP" and not "FREE." A "COMP" has a value attached to it. I honestly didn't know you were such a CET sucker, as Rob would say, but degenerates pop up in all the unlikeliest places.

    Let me know when you get the room for $50 and put my name on it. I'll be waiting.

    And mickey, regarding Caesars rooms, here's a story regarding the best Caesars Palace room I stayed in:

    Bob Dietz's Integrity Sports: Vintage Vegas: Sweet Suites and Edmund Slick (theskepticalgambler.blogspot.com)
     
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  5. coach belly

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  6. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    i don't read blogs by scumbags.

    You are playing games. I knew from the start you would welsh on the challenge. You owe the Haven of Mercy Rescue Mission $200. But I don't expect you to pay off. Hell, you can't even pay your property taxes.

    Pretty funny that you would call someone a CZR sucker for getting a room comped after you bragged about how much comp they are giving your sucker ass. How much money did you dump to get the comp, Mr. CZR Sucker?

    There's a monkey in the woodpile here. How did you come up with a bunch of comp? Explain that to us. They didn't give it to you for sportsbetting. And you're to fucking cheap to do any real gambling at anything else. You don't know advantage slots. I SUSPECT YOU ARE USING SOMEONE ELSE'S COMP.

    My getting involved with CZR had to do with Druff's 7 Stars thread at PFA. The thread is about the cheapest ways to get to Diamond or 7 Stars thru video poker. I jumped in and told them I would take a look at CZR to see if there was a better way to run the points required.

    So I dropped into a few CZR properties in the midwest and found a way to run points and make a profit too. But their might be some breakeven plays to take just to get the points. You see, that's what I do, redietz. I work advantage plays on the machines but also run points on the cards that gets me the free stuff. I only pay for rooms when I'm not on my circuit. Every month I get more room comp offers than I can use.

    CZR has a Slot Finder website. So it was easy for me to go online and see what exploitable slots each of their properties have. They all have plenty. I didn't put in much time on those CZR properties. I just spun off what I could find then left. I found about $800 in expectation but ran well and actually made $1800. That was the first time I had been active on a CZR property in years so my card was completely zeroed out. But the $2900 wager I ran triggered something in their computer. The offers started rolling in a couple of months later.. Free rooms, free meals, and freeplay.

    I'm now working CZR into my rotation. They have the right machines and they give up the comp. The trick redick, er, redietz, is not wearing out my welcome. I'm an expert at that too.

    I'll be teaching PFA members in the 7 Stars thread how to run points and show a profit instead of losing money. You should follow the thread. You might learn something. After all....there is a whole world of AP you know nothing about.
     
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  7. coach belly

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    tewlj is one post away from being tagged as a compulsive liar on this forum.

    The admins should just go ahead tag the ditz as a welsher and deadbeat.

    He probably would have reneged on $49.99 or $50.01 too.

    He'll never live this down...it's his legacy.

    https://memes.getyarn.io/yarn-meme/3198df32-c479-4281-af35-90395b100bdc
     

  8. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    If you have free room nights coming at the Horseshoe (or any CZR property) then you must be a CZR Rewards member.

    And you can go online like I did and go thru the motions of making a reservation for a free room night. You can punch in the dates and it will give you a choice of rooms. And it will tell you if it's comped. Just like in the pics I put up.

    So why don't you do some showing off by taking a pic or screenshot of the comped room and post it up here. You can put up a pic just like I did here:
     
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  9. Mickey Crimm

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    No welching that I see.

    Redietz is correct that getting the room via comp is NOT what the bet was presupposing.

    The question should have been worded better, but ultimately I am sure Redietz meant its intent to be as follows: "Can someone without any comp history or credits with the casino, i.e. a ploppie without history at that property, i.e. any Joe Blow using Expedia etc., book that room for fifty dollars cash, or less?"

    Mickey claims victory via loophole: nope.

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  11. RobSinger

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    Because blind libtards "see" everything the same.

    Red was juggling multiple items here, and it's all entirely because I got under his thin skin by mocking him for being such a cheapskate on a LV trip that he doesn't make very often.

    He was going on about dodging resort fees at a downtown dump, eating meals on-the-cheap, and somehow bragging about how he could get all the room comps he wanted at any time....on his next trip.

    I didn't read much about his exchange with mickey, until the Horseshoe room came up and red said he got an upgrade. I immediately thought Big Whoop.

    Then the $50 challenge came up, and you could tell redietz was hot under the collar over it, with his ambiguous parameters and as proven by him needing you to interpret his wording just so you could help him get out of paying the $200 (if, that is, he actually paid his taxes first).

    The bottom line to all this of course, was redietz claiming mickey couldn't snag that same room (same TYPE of room since you're assisting him with his word salads) for $50, which obviously meant mickey couldn't get it for $50 OR LESS....meaning between free and $50.

    Mickey called him on his bluff, and red lost. My guess is he loses a lot of bets, because these are the type of people who manufacture all kinds of excuses to not to have to pay.

    If you were a platinum member here, I'd knock you down to brass for your pitiful defense of an obvious welcher.
     
  12. MrV

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    If you weren't a serial liar I might actually believe your threat, but as I don't it floats away like a fart in the evening breeze.
     
  13. redietz

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    When I need Rob Singer to do translations of what I said, well, God bless me. And if you buy any translation of Rob's, well, God bless you.

    The rooms on mickey's post said "COMP," not "FREE." Comps have a dollar value. That's how they are bought, sold, and written off as business costs by every casino in existence. Casinos don't write off COMPs against income by declaring they have no value.

    Any degenerate can get a room comped. I have rooms comped in July much better than these. So if someone says that I cannot get my July rooms for $50, they are absolutely correct. I can pay $200 or $250 (or $400 on weekends) or I can get them COMPed, but I cannot get them for $50.

    Good try, though, boys. Well, not really, but keep at it.

    It's interesting. Mickey is trying to simultaneously brag on his comped rooms while declaring they have zero value.

    I still await mickey snagging 861 for $50. Just put my name on the room so I can verify it.
     
  14. coach belly

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    You're the only only one bragging on comped rooms around here, deadbeat.

     

  15. RobSinger

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    This is how corrupted your mind is.

    No one involved in this $50 room discussion cares one bit what the room is written off as or valued at as a comp. Free means the customer pays nothing. Comped means the customer pays nothing. In either case, the room is free to the customer.

    You only came up with that lie because you're a pathological liar.

    Wise up.
     
  16. MrV

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    Oh, but you think you're a clever one.

    True, when requesting and receiving a comped room the player pays nothing at that time, but the room is only comped because of prior casino play, play in which the person certainly did pay something.

    Whether their play resulted in a loss or a win doesn't matter much to the casino as they take the long run view and comp accordingly based on the amount bet over time.

    Gee, you know all this, don't you?

    Having an Alzheimer's moment?
     
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  17. Mickey Crimm

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    V, how long have you known that I play advantage slots for a living? I couldn't tell you when was the last time I had a losing month. I know it's been more than a decade. Probably 15 years.

    My number one priority is making a straight up profit off machines. The comps are a by-product. If they offer them, fine, I'll take them. If they don't offer them, fine, I don't need them.

    Taking the money out of the casino is what I do. I do it on variable state games where the advantage shifts back and forth from house to player. I play only when I find a machine thats in advantage mode for the player. Once the advantage shifts back to the house I cash out and go look for another machine that's in player advantage mode.

    The beauty of what I do is the machines only pay back overall about 90%, though I'm never on the negative side. With such a high theoretical hold the casinos throw a lot of comps at gamblers that play them. I make damn good money and get a lot of comps too. The reason I move around is to not wear out my welcome at any one property. You may not know it but there is casino heat on what I do. The casinos don't like guys like me.

    There are at least hundreds but maybe thousands of people doing what i do in the U.S.
     
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  18. Mickey Crimm

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    Here's the link. Redietz, let your conscience be your guide.

    For years I never ridiculed you for your lack of overall advantage play knowledge. You literally don't know jackshit about it but I never belittled you for it. But just as soon as I start a thread on sportsbetting, a subject I admittedly know little about but wanted to learn at least a little something, you jump right in with the sarcasm, ridicule, and derision. And you've just gotten worse. You piled the shit on.

    You could have been supportive of the effort. Instead you turned into a complete asshole. The question is why? Are you really that insecure about what you do?
     
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  19. RobSinger

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    Re-read Mickey's beat down of your false statement. Then check YOUR Alzheimer's meds.....
     
  20. RobSinger

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    Uh-oh....now we await another Martian Moment.
     

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