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Roulette My question to Gizmotron and all pattern/trend players

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by albalaha, Aug 15, 2019.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Please tell us all why I'm giving it all away now, won't you. Let's see if you can close that case, Clarence

    More like Sherlock. I have given far more than I have taken. Students paid me and they got something for that. The single big bucks player gave me the money with no strings attached. So I took it. So when we come down to an ethics contest I'm sure that you are clean as the driven snow. He gave me 30% of a single bet when he plays Baccarat in Macau. He takes home $200,000.00 a trip. I got $3500 from three different occasions total. He does not expect it back. Now how many biggest whale gamblers have you so impressed and been offered no strings attached money from? Of course I took it. Do you really think I believe that you wouldn't take it too. You sure know a lot about me all of a sudden. Why is that case closer?

    This is just a little fishy. It's got that Malignant Narcissist in the room feel to it.

    Is that you Glen? Got a need do you? Scratch it again. It's like Poison Oak only it never goes away.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Those are not all sign up cards. And yes, dork, I'm playing in California. Those are all casinos with Roulette. You do get that don't you. I don't play your preferred games. Never did.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    SheepTracker, go shag some wool.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Still waiting for the answer to why am I showing it all and telling it all now? You can grandstand all you want. People will learn this. You can't stop people from coming to a gambling forum and learning free information no matter how jealous you really are. LOL

    and where is your great system or method SEXdealer?
     
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  5. Sharptracker

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    Allright, let's meet in the barn mate :)

    Usually people give their system when they realize it is shit... and they are enough stupid to believe that maybe someone will bring a variant to repeat the same shit cycle.

    Some other give their system because they don't want to hit the wall alone...

    Some other give their shit and trying to apply reciprocity & hope to get something back coz their system sucks a lot...
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You figured it all out!

    You are exactly what I expected people to think out of common sense and human nature.

    This is exactly why Junket King said that giving something away that works won't actually be a big deal risk.

    Go scratch you ass on a salt block, bahh bahh.
     
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  7. Sharptracker

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    I forgot that sometimes you could meet mother Teresa of roulette...

    Is that you?

    Look reality, 99% of people that will give their system are concerned by one of the 3 reason upper... And 100% of them if it is about a mathematic way.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I guarded this stuff cryptically for 14 years. I changed to self control tactics two years back. I just realized that what Junket King, Johno, said is true. Even you don't believe it.

    I spent the past 14 years dropping hints here and there. Global Effect is still the same, Elegant patterns are still the same thing. streaks of chop, singles, strong side weak side, it's all the same going all the way back to 2006 at Gamblers Glen. Even the visual dexterity stuff. It's all the same. The hints presented no effect. So really teaching this is fun for me. It's fun to watch people open their eyes and see this. I started with nothing and made it all up. I turned it into something so simple that inexperienced new players can learn the basic in a few hours. I provided the open source free software. If you can't make it work then it is you. It's as real world as I could make it. It really makes you think before betting. You must hunt streaks, trends, or patterns.

    This can all be tested without ever spending a dime. All it takes is work.

    It's just that people don't believe anyone would give a working method away. I'm counting on that. And look. Only a few are reporting that they are trying this. Much more have the software already.

    I can't force people to try this out and see for themselves. I just put it out there and sort am waiting to see what happens. It's for EC players. It fits all those games.
     
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  9. EXDealer

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    hey Nobel prize candidate, why do you go from board to to board forum to forum???????????????????

    what a waste!

    whos fucking fault is that???????????????
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I left betselection.cc because an idiot wrecked it. Otherwise that is where I would have put it. Here it is free and moderator safe.
     
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  11. EXDealer

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    LOL, i never worked, i gambled.,

    i taught a tutoring program'
    i took money from forum members and told them i lost i, sorry NO REFUNDS NO EXCHANGES
    I climbed mountains
    I programmed NASA's computers and the government cheated the fuck out of my pay!
    I consulted casinos and never got the credit!
    I taught people for free because it is FUN!
    I have 100% for sure winning systems for 14 years plus, but i cannot release them until i almost die!
    I cruise the west coast in a Prevost RV as a high roller, look at my non VIP cards all you fucks!
    I blame everything on a guy named glen who is a lair and an asshole, so I am not!

    (will add more later I have to get a #6 to go at the fast food place)
     
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  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Interesting. This is psycho babble using projection. I guess JK's laundry list really does bug Glen. It works so good that butt boy here has a woody.

    Even more interesting is the made up shit that some how is supposed to hurt me.

    I think I will put you on ignore. Funny how that works here too.
     
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    The only thing i am agree is about human nature... in their head, Free= shit . 10000$ = interesting... but that is not the reason i don't believe you, i just don't believe in it because you cannot change the odds and you can't explain where your system can have an edge. Everytime you bet there are still 18/18 +0, and everytime you're under zero taxe.

    I just need to see this if i decide to spend time on a system or not.
     
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  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I don't want to drag you into areas where you are not interested so I'm staying out of other people's threads at Baccarat for instance. JK's idea.

    You are 100% right that I can't change the odds. Is it possible to make a bet selection on every spin and lose the expected amount of bet selections that math suggest that I should lose. That sounds right to me. Even if I play hundreds of session I will lose at near the expected rate. I don't mean lose money. I mean bet selections.

    I get more wins than losses most of the times. But I stay out of funded losing streaks. This alone helps me in my MM. I don't fund recognizable streaks of losses. This is very hard to teach. But I have been successful in teaching this anyway. For more than 14 years I have tried to bring people to the attention of the effectiveness states.

    This is not some magical prediction process. This is situational awareness. I know when I'm in a difficult session. I know when it eases up. I know when it goes into a win streak. All these stages occur throughout most sessions. I grind away to get just a few wins. All this is constantly doable. I start doing it the minute I sit down. I control the game with my MM. MM does not control me.
     
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  15. EXDealer

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    member lungyeag lost over $8,000 and another member lost at least $10,000 in the con game.

    fucking great morals and teachability! Fuck yeah
     
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  16. frankg1974

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    Very tough roulette right now at mohegan I could only won 100$
     
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    hey frankg1074 maybe you can pay gizmotron a donation and he can tutor you and then you can split the profits???? whatcha think big guy??
     
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    Please be careful there are lot scammers here.
     
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  19. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yes, watch out for anything that is free.
     
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  20. EXDealer

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    My question is. Why did you con the board members and say lost their money and no refunds?

    #1) If you were as good as you said you were and what you taught or still teach, why didn't you win and split the profit and return their principal per the agreements?

    or #2) If you were as good as you said you were and what you were posting and teaching worked, how come you did not win with that money you were entrusted with? (IT WAS NOT A GIFT stop telling bullshit lies about a con game)!!!!!!

    Or did you just record a bunch of randomly recorded outcomes and a bunch of index (LOL) cards with how you wagered. Random wagers with Random losses. Sorry guys, I lost the way I said, ooops! The stuff I posted is a bunch of dog shit and worth about the same!!!!!

    So in all essence you post shit or you stole their money in a con game???? Which one, or was it both????????????????????????????????????????????

    What a con artist bullshit fucking old man that prays on the gaming forum members!
     
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