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Roulette My Way or the Highway

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Daniel, Oct 17, 2016.

  1. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    So if you play different, you use a different shortcut to get the answer, so you play different even if what you call the way is the same for you.

    I'd like to know what make you think that way about him... what was different? just the hit rate? because if we start from the fact that you say there's only one way... :)
     
  2. Benas

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    Here all is in understanding, say we both are basket players but you throw with the right hand when me with - left. Naturally, say if the defender will behave the same and will defend your right hand and mine right hand - I who have stronger left hand will have an advantage.
    But if we play in two different ways?
    Hit rate maybe is not so important. The important fact, that when he does bet looks that he knows say scattering, for example, say he bet neighbors 0-21-6 ball touch wheel at 9 jumps clockwise and rest somewhere in pocket 25, he wins.B ut say sometimes he bet say the same combination but ball hits at wheel to 32, this time it not jump half wheel but stop very fast say at 2.

    I am enough good in math and when I see in half-hour 10 such situations I can calculate chance to see them random. What he does is 99.99% not random...

    That is what wonders me most. Looks that he knows much more about ball behaviors than know me than know Kaisan, than know others play leaders...
     
  3. Sharptracker

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    Ok let's say we are basket players... One just determines how much time left with his feeling when observing the ball. One determines how much time left by hearing the ball sound, another one will determines how much time left by observing a particular lap time. All this players will make many mistakes BUT as you can see, they are using different ways to determine how much time left. I don't say this is the ways to follow but it will produce a weak accuracy eventhough.

    The only way i see to predict how scatter will be is to refer to the rotor speed. Or maybe to know what diamond it will hit with the behave of the ball associated. It cannot be magic :)

    How many time did you see that guy? Because it would be better to see several 99.99% not random than only one.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

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    Careful with too much reliance on Dealers Signature. Habits do change and so do dealers being exchanged every 20 minutes ( estimate ) .

    Just consider other options if you are a short term player and aspiring winner .


    ND
     
  5. Sharptracker

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    Nathan, in 95% to not say 99% DS is a fallacie...
     
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    Mistakes we can do in all ways - so not pay to that attention. Mistakes are in measurings - everyone can measure as he wants, as is comfortable to him. So all differences from that we again can throw away. No matter in which way we that do we still measure here and here we do the same - we measure. Accuracy is other.

    From other side, if you are real VB player you must know that you lost not because of measuring mistakes :)
    I saw him several times and slight talked. Of course i want to see his play more ,but that depends not on me...
     
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    Be sure are also other reasons :)
     

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    @Sharp,


    With either 21 or 20 contiguous neighbors where does DS come into play ? No matter which way one would slice the mustard roulette is a game of luck .


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  9. Sharptracker

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    Ball in use, but i don't think they were switching the ball every spin...

    Weather conditions that can affect the final jump/scatter but it also doesn't change every spin...

    What you said is that even if on two consecutives spins the scatter wasn't the same, that guy could anticipate it, correct?
     
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    To react to weather changes you must be God:). Are simply some situations when scattering is simply less .Mostly good players know when they are and try to play more in that time.
    Scattering depends on the place and how ball touch wheel. That depends from actual wheel position and from ball orbit. But all that is very hard for me, maybe because I use not good parameters, or maybe not use some important ones.

    Something similar to that. Really he not hit only when scattering is absolutely specifical - say jump back, or super long scattering more than a full round. In all other cases looks that he know place +/-9 pockets where the ball will finally stop.
     
  11. Sharptracker

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    Well, i have allready met a wheel 's case where ball's orbit was different according to the diamond hit and where all orbits are connected (i could find this on a video on the net maybe)... Let's call A/B/C/D our 4 vertical diamonds. B is a bit tilted tonight... Then, clockwise direction, ball will use to hit A on top, with low orbit degree and then large scatter. B will be hit in the "middle" and will produce a 18 pockets scatter for example. Sometimes ball will miss B and hit C with a lower speed and a bit down the diamond will generally produces a back rebound.

    Of course it's an example and our B diamond could be hit on the top with his tilt and would produce a large scatter when diamond C will be hit in the middle etc etc...
     
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    Ok, this way is possible to get some advantage from predicting scattering, but really all that is very hard to do, because you need much data. And still, on every spin, you have very vided possibilities what can be. For play when want to win really much you need something other. That guy about which I told really not collect any data, of course, he can have a partner and maybe that is, but I think data is not in first place in his play...
     
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    I assume that you would have seen his partner, especially if you saw him several times... But this was the only answers i could think about to anticipate scatering.

    Look at that wheel , i know it is an old wheel but it wouldn't take you a long time to notice that diamond situated at 1pm produces many back rebounds...
     
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    No, any partner I not saw and at all, I always was wondering at the start of play that man. He almost in run came to casino immediately come to wheel, by the way to such wheel from 10-12 which I detect in that day as best, or wheel with something important - so he not play wheel where play all other players - sometimes he ask open table for him special - play here 30-60 min win and immediately go out .
    Ok, this wheel know most VB ( RC ) players :). Simply here wheel stand is a special way and because of that are so much back jumps. So that is a special case, but are say theory, knowing which is many time more important :).
     

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    You probably met God then :)

    By the way... he's certainly using a Rc, correct?
     
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    I from start said that he plays in mine opinion better than any other. About RC - all possible, but possible not = use...
     
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    I like it...

    In this area i know i won't collect many future useful informations but i understand why people keep for themself, still i can dream and work hard... the field is vast and many possibilities if we consider them.
     
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    February it is! Take this two weeks to ask anything, especially if you try to complete the file I uploaded or if you want to give it a go. I thought about making a video of me laying some ultra mega skills and cashing in but I'm so afraid of getting caught. To all the guys helping thank you a lot! Also don't fight each other so much, instead use my way. Because here you are using systems, you are using the wheel, you are using progression positive and negative, lot, VB, ds, etc. So I see guys discuss with other guys when I read some post and normally I think... But they are both right, they just need to combine the different visions. Yes you can do it flat betting yes you can use prog yes mind the wheel yes systems are good... Fuck it! Just cash in!!! Is there some international tournament in a european roulette casino where like you start with the same chips and the guy who wins the most after so many days is recognized as the roulette champion?
     
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    yup... I was going to write something but my last post it's spot on so leave as it is :)
    My wife has screwed me... I asked her to buy a snooker table, a football table, a ping pong table a trampoline AND a roulette. She did it all but instead of the roulette she bought me a card table... now she says that if i want my music studio i must get her bigger boobies :| and if I want a roulette table she wants ass surgery... women are complicated man... she basically doesn't like me playing because does not go well with my business man profile. Don't take me wrong writing stupid personal bullshit here but regarding the game it's all said and done and I stick by it. I'm not a roulette player really, so I just keep doing the same, going to the same 03 local casinos... cashing more less 5K a month. But it would be a pleasure for me to some of you pros to try this doing like a full run during a month and getting monthly profit in the 6 figure range. for me maybe it's going to take another 15 years before retiring because I'm still 35 and I like working in my industrial consumables trading company... shit!, I even have a fancy name for it. :D bye bye and thank you to the guy that gave me a like!
     
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    Just refreshing this post... Maybe one day someone takes the time to learn it . By the way... Where is posts about changing rotor speeds during spins? I'm not talking acelerations, I'm talking like this sheet isn't right... Remember I've been playing normally in the same 03/04 casinos since I started this. Recently I'm having that feeling the boss is trying to fuck me over. But I still stick it to the man eheheheh they have to put magnets in order for this shit to fail.
     

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