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Baccarat Need a PDF file of real shoes

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Guccipradafendi, May 13, 2021.

  1. Guccipradafendi

    Guccipradafendi New Member

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    Hi , i Need a shoes of real casino to test my strategy......if u have more please send in discussion a file with shows.... tks at all for collaboration
     
  2. fathead

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    Some are played by me but most I collected from others over the years.
     
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    Hey guys, I wonder if anyone else would have shoe results (online or live) to share. I'm studying methods and testing them with the results. These 1200 shoes are being of excellent service, but I would like to obtain other shoes.

    Grateful!
     
  6. Frank Kneeland

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    I know most of the people in this forum will disagree with me, but using actual shoes is not the best way to evaluate a baccarat strategy.

    Firstly, the shear number of shoes required for statistical relevance would be around 37,500...three-million hands.

    Second, stat math has never been the best math to use in the world of gambling. In fact it's a bit like bringing a knife to a gunfight. You feel like you have a weapon, but you end up dying anyway when shot from across the room.

    The best example is still the old tired overused coin-flip analogy. There are many scientific tests one could do to make sure a coin is weighted evenly and fair, with an exactly 50/50 chance of coming up either heads or tails--actually flipping the coin is not on that list.

    You need to focus on what should happen, not on what has happened. If you are familiar with Bayes therm, your previous knowledge and subsequent modification of behavior when incorporating trials and results, should only alter based on a percentage of how much your actions influenced the results.

    More simply stated, if you determined that a coin is fair and should come up heads half the time, ten tails in a row doesn't significantly alter that as the "new information" is essentially irrelevant. A fair coin should occasionally do exactly that.

    The only way to properly vet a baccarat system would be to write a computer program that could rifle though millions of hands with various rules and betting strategies. To my knowledge this has not been done.
     
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    I know someone who is doing this right now. :) He is focusing on card values. He throws me a nugget of info every once in a while.
     

  8. Frank Kneeland

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    I'd be very interested in that!

    The obvious thing is that while I have always relied on probability math, not statistical math, with enough trials stat math is a valid method. You just need those absurd numbers of trials. In fact most card counting techniques for BJ were generated using massive numbers of hands. Arnold Snyder likes to use at least a five-million hand sample. The process is outside my bailiwick. Video Poker is more of a finite game with more clearly defined parameters.
     
  9. Rond1nell1

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    Interesting these lines of studies! But I still appreciate anyone who has real results to share!

    Grateful!
     

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