Craps Off-Axis Toss ...

you guys would be shocked at a new toss (throw) I have developed .... Recently, I have experimented in Live casino play with a new toss for overcoming the heavily unbalanced "Indian Casino" dark purple-red dice used in some Vegas casinos on certain shifts .... the results have been 100% successful so far:

- 1 hour and 12 minute roll at Cosmo

- 4 Point Fire Bet with 6 total points made

- 5 total Points made (3 to the Fire)

- 36 minute roll at Cosmo

- 21 minute roll at Cosmo

- 48 minute roll

- 18 minute roll

ZERO PSO's and every roll was 20+ except where the Off-Strip Boxman told me I threw the dice too hard on my 2nd throw and had to throw them softer

Technique employed: Off-axis toss and it is not the LittleJoe or Dr. Z ... and I employed over 50 different dice sets

 

Off-axis tosses opens up the creativity juices, but not so much with on-axis.

BTW. GREAT SHOOTING.

 

Obviously The Mad Professor has hijacked Harley's acount and posted a trip report from a Canadian casino!

 

LoL .... the difference between the Mad Professor and I is that I have actually been in a casino in the last 4 years whereas MP has not and I have witnesses to prove my existence -- the Mad Professor's Player's Card shows zero activity for the last 4 years and he has no witnesses to support his play with or without a Player's Card

 

Wow! Harley the Hacker! A man of many talents!

 

No - just friends in certain places

 

Went to Cosmos with Dice Coach, Howard , SnakeEyes and Lucky Lady on Sunday.... I missed Howard's 20 roll... as i was working and came after.

IMO Cosmo is a sweat Joint on the Strip. On table we were on the the dealers were rude, the when box man took joy in swiping away Losing ATS bets when seven showed. The dealers and Box teamed in effort when a D.I. took center stage and shot, watching carefully every move they made. Made it very unpleasant to play there. They did not like my shot from straight out. Box don't the dealer, I can't see the dice, I can't see the dice, we must see the dice...next roll seven out.. F*ck HIM and that place. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Now onto the dice rolls... I was there for 144 of the rolls.

probability is 12 four/tens....16 five/nines....20 six/eights.... 24 sevens and 24 horns...

Our sessions had
14 fours (+2) /21 tens (+9) 35 combined should equal the seven count (25) fours/tens outshot sevens by 10
20 fives (+5) / 13 nines (-3)
20 sixes (+0) / and 18 eights (-2)
25 sevens (+1) sevens skewed a little IMO as a few were setting the sevens on CO roll
21 Horns (-3)

I needed 4,9,and 10 for $2450 payout and when i laid the 4 for $160 to win 80, the pit boss looked at me like Holy F, what just happened, this SOB is gonna get paid regardless... none the less i felt pressured and rushed. It just wasn't fun. Maybe different shifts are bettor? More relaxed, etc?

 

TSC - sorry to hear about your Cosmo experience .... Do the NY Giants ever play a game without studying the game film before hand ... Who in your crew gave you the scouting report on the Cosmo before you walked in ?!

That's what happens when you play socially instead of for business ... Can anyone of that group tell you what the Cosmo dealers, boxmen and the Pizza joint upstairs have in common ?

IMO, Cosmo has the 2 best dealers in Vegas named Heather - and they are on 2 different shifts, but both their crews operate hot tables more often than not .... Cosmo also has 1 of the best female Boxes in Vegas. However, there is also an all male Cosmo crew that sometimes work together that are very anti-player including 1 dealer that begs for a 7 on every roll because he would rather stand his whole shift without having to deal.

Some of my best ATS wins have been at Cosmo, but I have also scouted the tables there more than I have played ... Who in your group was able to give you any scouting information close to what you had in your post.

I have never received 1 ounce of heat or sweat from my play at Cosmo and I have been on several long rolls there

SnakeEyes - what is different about the Cosmo dealers from 99% of the other dealers in Nevada ?

BTW - the Cosmo buffet is a hidden gem ... As is the visual entertainment at the hotel registration counter.

 

Hoover Dam, I add those numbers and come up with 152!

 

Maybe it was the table selection process. I was the 5th wheel on this vehicle. But there were plenty of tables there open on a Sunday. Younger crowd.... Presents more energy excitement during a warm/hot roll with cheers and high fives for sure... The table / dealers definitely were NOT for the players to win IMO. Had a dealer tell me his name was Vince. He insisted numerous times for me to check change black for his red chips. to the point where i almost said STFU, I'm NOT giving you black checks. I think they feel if you do that you will use red checks so $100 will disappear...they wear NO name tags. The Pit boss came over and talked to him after my roll as he knew he should not of been treating me like dirt. I told him Bellagio dealers don't treat their customers like this....He said "Then go play at Bellagio"...

I guess so... I use to have a Partner that we would play ATS with and we were pretty damn good at it.... we also had a 3rd guy that between one of us, we hit the whole salami. But this one guy name Houdini, vanished from thin air from the team, lol. Still looking for him as we had it going on.

So question i have is why you would Expose Cosmo as a place to play ATS at? Coming from a guy who like confidentiality and anonymity. Your giving this info makes me question things. Why would you want to draw the Craps world to the place you play when for years you told me NOT to talk about it and keep it on the down low. Just asking as curious minds want to know. Bait and Switch?

 

The last time I counted, there were over 100 tables in Vegas with the ATS .... Plenty of choices ... You can switch anytime

However, Houdini does not reveal all the secrets to his craft on a public board ... I have seen many walk into Cosmo and get scalped because they had no clue on how to beat the "Indian Casino" dice that Cosmo uses more often than Lexus gets recalled.

SnakeEyes - can you tell us why you can find a parking spot in the Cosmo garage faster than in any other Casino garage in town ?

 

TSC,...How many times have you heard me say stop playing a social game? There is always a reason for playing the times we play in different casinos, it has taking years to get the information on different casinos and their crews.

There are some casinos you will not find me playing in, because it just doesn't matter what time of the day you go there, you are going to get hassled by their stupid crews.


Some casinos sweat the money there is no doubt about it, we stopped into a casino the other day after that session was over with you told me the one dealer gave you a hard time before, but that day she didn't say a word. Some of these dealers go to work with a chip on their shoulder, because they are having a bad day and they take it out on every player they have on the table.

Tell everybody why you think that happened!


You can even find bad dealers at Bellagio, there are one or two of them that must hate their jobs. The dumb thing is that dealers make their money from the players tips. These idiots can't figure it out? Any time they are giving a player a hard time their tips go away.


Use those player comment cards when you run into a bad dealer, sometimes everybody on that crew wants to get rid of that dealer, but their hands are tied, they can't do a thing about it. But we can if we keep writing up the bad dealers! For all of you out-of-town players please fill out those comment cards, you carry more weight then us locals.

Ask for that card when you are playing at the table, if they don't want to give you one you can always get on at the players club. Filling one out on the table works miracles, also ask for the offending dealers name, but do not turn it into the suit at the table, take it to the players club or better yet mail in in!

If you play craps around town you need the help of others to find the best times to play in the different casinos. I have guys that want to play craps with me and when I tell them that I will be playing at a certain time, they will tell me that's to early or too late to play craps.


They want to play at the casino they are staying at, and it just doesn't work that way, they could be playing at one of the worst casinos to play at in town!


I know that you have a casino only a few blocks from your house that you will not play at. You find it quite funny that anybody would want to play there. Now without telling the world what casino that is, please tell everybody why you won't play there. I already know the answer to that question, but would love to hear your insight to why you do not play there. It might be very enlightening for the readers to hear it from you!