Roulette Ok, I'll start my own thread

There is a law of the 27th as far as I'm concerned. Is it an actual LAW being taught? Of course not.

Using 38 spins as my example. 100% correct >> in order to get 3 hits, you must have 2 first, in order to POSSIBLY get 4 hits, you must have 3 first. I dont see how this is an argument?

The *ACTUAL* issue is....... when (if at all) you'll get that next hit within 38? (or more spins depending on your method). How many numbers you'll be betting? Will you be in profit when you get your win(s)?

You WILL get a win(s) within 38 but being in profit is the issue. Use a progression? I say nope.

If you get a win early on that 3rd hit, keep going up to 38 for another win(s)? These are the ACTUAL MAIN issues !!!

Ken

 

The law of the third doesn't really exist. Some VB friends of mine are actually responsible for all of the nonsense behind it. They claimed that they were using "Phillip's Law of The Third" when they were arrested in the UK back in the early 80s. It was a cover story, nothing more. One of the guys claimed that he was a brilliant mathematician and that he'd invented it and had named it after himself. To this day he laughs about how people still get sucked into it after having read the news stories. People like Notto are merely some of the suckers that got sucked into the hype after all these years.

In reality the so called law of the third refers to the normal distribution of the numbers over a series of 37 or 38 spins. Over those spins some numbers will hit a few times or more, some twice, some once, and some not at all. The reason behind it is very simple. There are more ways for the numbers to hit in such a sequence than there are for all of the numbers to only hit once. Unfortunately you have no way of knowing which numbers will continue hitting and which numbers will suddenly stop hitting since the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next.

For the record, my favorite cover story is to tell gaming and others that I merely exploit regression to the mean and the law of large numbers. Again, it's just a cover story, but I suspect Notto will be picking it up in a few years as the news gets out there.

 

I agree with this part.

 

Pretty much what my post said.

Ken

 

Do you at least agree with this? (WITHIN the 37/38)

Ken

 

Nope, we must do like Notto does. We must run home to change underwear, socks, and eat before we can return.

 

What a load of nonsense.
It's like saying I explained my winnings by playing repeaters that don't exist
So now every time we see a repeat it's a joke and they don't exist.
The stories you tell - lol.

Run every test you want (you never do, and never post the data)
and you'll clearly see the pattern over and over and over and over.
12 unhits in a cycle of spins
1/3 of the numbers don't show up
2/3 of them do

It's a pattern produced by random which can be looked back on and noticed
each and every time.
It also produces the same pattern in the future - but obviously that's too hard
for you to figure out that numbers repeat.

Your "story" that it's all made up is nonsense, clearly everyone can see it for
themselves.
It's like the 60's video where random produces a clear bell curve in results
each and every time... but no ! My buddies created the whole bell curve as
a joke one time in a casino !!

You need help man. Helping you win seems hopeless, but helping you deal with
reality is something where there's hope perhaps.

 

Turbo,

The word "repeater" really isn't a very good description, unless you're really talking about a number that literally just hit on the previous spin. You need to specify as to whether you're talking about a number that's hitting at one hit above expectation, two hits above expectation, etc...

I'm not sure as to why you think I don't believe that numbers repeat. Of course numbers repeat, but in the random game such numbers have the same chance of hitting on future spins as numbers that have not hit...and for some obvious reasons.

Again, there are more ways for some numbers to have hit a few times or more, some twice, some once and some not at all then there are for all of the numbers to just hit once. So what? By the way, the distribution of the numbers also indicates that they can be arranged in too many different ways for you to win because there are toooo many of them.

The distribution of hits will be some what similar every 38 spins, but the numbers that continue hitting may or may not keep hitting and the cold ones may remain cold or suddenly start hitting. Simple probability shows that 12 numbers that haven't hit will have a 12/38 chance of hitting and the 26 hot numbers will have a 12/38 chance of hitting on the next spin. Now I know you like betting on the hot numbers, because there's more of them but you'd need a 12 in 36 chance of hitting just to break even, because a 12 in 38 chance of hitting means that you're still going to come up short by two units every 38 spins.

I can produce sources for the story and new accounts if you'd like.
1. Wiki.
2. Roulette Research. com
3. Roulette Wheel Study by Ron Shelly

No, they didn't create the normal binomial distribution of numbers, they merely claimed that it was why they were winning.

Well, so much for acting like an adult, huh? Turbo, I've done my best to help you grasp the basics, but unless you can put forth some effort to learn a little basic probability I don't see how that's possible. Your word salad explanations demonstrate that you're still trapped in the box that is the gambler's fallacy.

 

Has political correctness now reached the roulette forums ? Why the talk about 37 numbers when here in USA we are finding that the 0 /00 wheels are dominating in the B & M casinos .


For me it stands at 38 numbers .


ND