Baccarat Once again, trend and anti-trend

So from personal experience, I bet when I think there's a trend happening.... call it streaks, alternate/chops, pattern, playing along the shoe etc etc.... you guys get the point, bet to the current condition that showed...

But if that's easy, casino will go down in no time. Yet the fact, the trend (I use the word for generalization) isn't always there, but it's there for thou who seeks it...

Many players that plays this style mostly say they will wait, keep their peace and wait for the moment to come.

And that's why I intrigued to post this. I was playing just now, and having a rough shoe in the afternoon, I wait like what a trend player do....

And then I start to thinking, if there is shoe that have so little trend or trend lasts short time only... then it must be meaning there's no clear clue what to bet on....the random non pattern shoe....

Like two sides of a coin, one should be able to take advantage of no trend as much as they advantage from trend.....

Would it be theoritically/mathematically/scientifically harder to identify and follow the anti-t?

Because there only could be one at a time, trending or not.... although there could be a trend/pattern inside random chaos...

eg. a form of 2-1-2 will make a t-follower bet for 1... and it goes to 2-1-3...


So, what you guys think?

 

Ok I might not make my self clear LoL.. I will divide it into several sub.

Sub topic 1: The form

Trend might come in many combination. Some of the most common one, feel free to add

1. BPBPBPBP chops
2. BBBBBBBB+ streaks
3. BBPPBBPP terrible two. in this group is also 3-3, 4-4 etc
ps. I don't know why they call these terrible....what's so terribel about it?

4. BPPPBPPP one side is single while the other side at least double or streaks
5. BPPBBBP this known as 1-2-3 pattern, 2-1-3/2-3-1/1-3-2/3-1-2/3-2-1 all fall into this

Note: All three or four considered the same
All pattern could have different lenght.

All of these pattern could last for several hand. And all these pattern build a shoe from start to end. Could be (1)-(3)-(1)-(4)-(2) and so on.

So before we carry on, we must define trend first. There'll be various opinions ofc. But for me what is written above.

Many said the problem is no one when it starts/end. What make player lost, too late and missed the previous path.

But if based on statement above, it's only about one pattern switching to another. Yes?

 

I thought about it years ago. In fact it's looked at in the Reading Randomness thread.

This is what you do. You are seeing an absence of anything continuing in the form of a pattern or a trend. But this absence of anything is continuing.

So you ask yourself what would it do if there were an absence of singles but everything else is all over the place in sizes. You start to look for anything that might stick out.

One thing that sticks out is the fact that singles will not repeat any time soon. So when it switches sides it will be at least a double. It's all stretched out. You must continuously watch for when a trend or pattern comes back to life but you can imagine what would happen if chaos were to continue. Some times it's just watching for the biggest picture. Is there one side stronger than the other in all this chaos. You can learn to watch for things that must happen if chaos were to continue. It's far more difficult but it is a skill that can be learned.

It all comes down to seeing things that you were not previously trained or skilled at seeing before. I have been beat on for years for suggesting that you learn how to see things that you have never seen before. For some reason that is a trigger for the mathZombies to zero in on me like they have got me now. I know better and know that they are once again trying to talk out of their asses. You watch. They can't control themselves and prefer ignorance and blindness. Let's see if that trend continues.

 

I know. it's actually wonderful.

 

A lot of systems seem to fall apart on repeating two's,bet opposite lose bets same lose bet opposite lose bet same lose.

 

Systems fail because the people that use them don't check to see if they are working. When you use a rule to make bets on trends you will have to check to see if they are in a condition of working or not. They do both. So if you just depend on the rule that they will always work you are going to fail with them. I assure you that there are times when 2's act like an ATM machine.

This is not an excuse. It's an attempt to let you know that checking the conditions is more important than the trend itself.

 

If that`s what is bothering you then be consequential and pick a certain bet and stick with it.


OR blame the dealer for your losses that he deals the cards against you. Seems to be the latest complaint by losers .

 

Gizmo: Your statement is true....easiest example when absence of single AT LEAST there will be double. Whether it's gonna march no one will know.

Regarding pattern, let's say the following happened:

1-2-3-1-1-3-2-1-4-2-1-1-5-2-1

How do you see the structure? 1-2-3 then 1-1-3 ; 2-1-4; 2-1-1; 5-2-1

or

1-2-3; then 2-3-1; 3-1-1; 1-1-3; 1-3-2; 2-1-4 and so on?

I'm still analyzing which means is the best to read it...

 

I definitely see it lineally. But I don't break it into triplets.

I would use a different example because these don't even relate to anything possible in even chances or columns or dozens. I could use them for double streets.

So out of 15 spins you get two @ 3, one @ 4, and one @ 5. There is no 6. The rest are 1's & 2's. Now I can just go with the dominant 1's and 2's. 1's are even more active than 2's.

So all you are looking for is when 3's, 4's, 5's & 6's get more active.

All you need to do is look for the most active of anything. That is what is continuing.

 

This problem sometimes bothering me too. Lol

 

You guys that search for trends or patterns in one data stream are handicapped. You can do this if you are totally patient. I play craps just to unwind after I have won a quick session at Roulette.

Imagine being able to play 6 independent hands from 6 different shoes all at the same time where you keep vertical charts of the results for each shoe on one playing chart. You can look across and down your chart to see chaos in one column, a slow grind upward in two columns, a slow grind downward in one column, a huge win streak in one column, and a losing streak in the last column.

Another day your chart does something magical. Your six shoes start to act as if they are in harmony. There is this thing of singles on the weak side and it goes from one shoe to the next in your six shoes and all over the place. In one shoe it's the banker that is the strong side. In another shoe, just as the first banker strong shoe starts to break down, the player starts to be clearly the strong side. Now this back and forth, strong side / weak side singles, starts to occur somewhere in the six shoes without interruption. In fact it keeps going all night long as they change shoes to new fresh shoes.

What I just described happens at least once a week, if you were to be able to play 6 independent simultaneous shoes at a single table all at once that is. I gave this seemingly magical experience a name. That name has been used to confirm my insanity by the obnoxious mathZombies for more than 14 years. I'm sort of glad that they have had so much fun with it. While they are laughing at me I'm seeing them as ship captains that stay very close to shore because the world is flat.

This is one of those things where a person can't see something until they can see it. It's known as Schotoma. I get a kick out of it because mathZombies always present themselves as smarter than anyone that is dumb enough to use patterns to beat a casino. They know they are right and they are going to persecute you if you don't prove to them that they are wrong.

I have tried to present myself that having dumbshits at the casinos is good for those of us that can actually effectively use trends and / or patterns to beat the casino games. They are almost cult like in their absoluteness of what they believe. They get mad, they have meetings, and they dance around the campfires in hooded robes. It's clear to see when they pose in their Spandex and try to save the world for the casinos. They think that as dumbshits they have a right to save those that they look down on. It's a perfect conflict of human comedy.

I'm using them as stand in puppets while they let the best gambling opportunity ever conceived slip through their fingers. It irritates them to no end that a gambling nerd won't go away and contemplate his error after they have so kindly pointed it out. You must remember this if nothing else. To beat a casino you must know the current conditions. To do that you must have a way to see the current conditions. So you must know when dumbshits are trying too save the world.

 

Gizmo, i know you have thread reading randomness but i still not yet read because if i am not wrong remember is lot of pages.

I want to know, so your method you said in the above can be apply to baccarat or not ? If can, do you mind to explain it here ?

Thanks before

 

Sorry but it can't use multiple streams of data. It just means that everything happens slowly. Yes, you can search for win streaks and singles on the weak side, the absence of singles, and things like that. Trends and patterns can still be used for bet selections that reveal their effectiveness. You still have a data stream of good for you, bad for you, or natural.

 

There's a feature in my online casino, multiplay...it means you could bet on several tables at once..

They even tell you what is trending atm on each specific table...

Tried that, busted in not more than 30mins LoL...

I decide never try it again...

 

My personal opinion is anti trend .

Here are members here like gizmotron that according to what read here are random master.

My understanding of trends is to surf them as long the waves as strong.

Following different streams and to look for possible trend betting chances make sense. Using two trends to place bet simultaneously could even work mush better.Its a increase of 50% to hit a wave.

Waves do happen but the model of the story is to capture them in a defined space of spins that for me is a the lack of the approach here.

My preference currently is to look for things that must happen in a defined space of spins.

Kind regards
B

 

Yes i ever play that too. Believe it or not i ever try to play 5 shoes at the same time. Flat bet. The result not good and must make fast decision too. Make me tired fast.

 

Doing a casino stay attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions.

W W no third session

L W Third session

W L Third session


L L NO third session . It was not your day



But since Rome was not built in ONE day spread this game plan over 5 casino visits.





Play at your own risk.

 

In this game only the next bet counts. I am wit this game for 34 years and never paid attention to the scoreboOnly ONE bet se

ONE bet selection only in all those years .

 

Ian with this game for 24 years.

 

Yes can multiplay. 5 shoes the same time. But cannot look the trend. Just main road.

My online casino have lot of baccarat for choose. The others can multiplay but have difficult because you sit. Bet.

Get up, choose another table. Bet.

Just 1 i mention above can play multiplay. I tried to bet everyhand 5 shoes at the same time. When finish about 1 hour i think is break even or lose a little. But never try again because make me tired fastly