Baccarat Oscar's grind + baccarat

Query, why do scared, loser player feel the needs to make the scene, repeated, to whine and snivel and wet themself in fears over havin to pay vigs on winnings bankers bet? It's the cost of doin business, nothin less or more, hey hey.

 

Your thinking is Short Sighted and I don't blame you for it. This is what EXACTLY what the casinos want you to think. You are playing into the WRATH of the casinos. Play one hand and won on B. Commission is 5%. But wait a minute, after 40 hands and 20 W and 20 losses, the commission now is 100% which is FULL amount of the bet been taken away. THINK!
Your COST of doing business is not a 1 time charge. It is only good for 20 wins . After 9 hrs of back & forth with Jae's unit of $200, and units could be in the hundreds, we are talking about tens of thousands of dollars.

 

Confused and wondering what you mean. I explained my views on WHY it works and WHY it won't. so that readers can see a better picture. I for sure DID NOT endorsed anything and even go as far as saying Jae is like someone using an 11 Marty that had not busted YET. Anybody that gambles knows what that means except you.

 

Confused and wondering, just another atypical day.
Sigh

flip flop = the sound and motion of the unsecured sail in the breeze

flipity flop = the sound and motion of a dog running on wooden floor at a party of family and friends.

Flip = the bird the politician once in office shows you for believing pre election promises

flip flop = etc etc etc etc.

This is just skippy speak here we just say one or two words and we can relate a paragraph with out actually saying or writing it , saves time.
Cheers = thanks, have fun, your welcome, nice of you , I agree, I respectfully disagree, salute when drinking, when being sarcastic, impolite acknowledged understanding when dealing with a moron , in your dreams bone head , yeah right , have a good day, your wife looks hot, thanks for marrying your partner you got the train wreck to yourself, etc etc etc.

Oh cheers to you.

 

If I read Jae reply correctly in the OG ,but ,,,,,maybe I don’t understand as craps suggests, It seems to me that he finishes up at +20,21 units and adjust the last bet of the series to capture that value give or take a few dollars, do I need to dig that paragraph up for you ? I know you are often confused and wandering but really by now one would think you could at least try to follow. Cheers.
I don’t see anywhere that Jae says I’m going to try and capture the 5% totals that have been deducted but because he talks units as I talk units and I understand why he talks unit because it’s simple to type units as a example-200/37units rather than typing all the time -$200000/$3700 . Can you imagine if he forgets a zero how much you ( generic you ) would hound him for wrong / misleading disclosure. No simple-/+200units is UNDERSTOOD

The balance of the term he uses to say return +20 units profits one has also needs to understand. As I could be wrong but when the grind is coming to a conclusion we have been through the drawdown say -157 units and we are at +14 units I’m sure that the +14 unit is AFTER recoup of the 5% commish along the way. It’s not a +14 unit without the recouping because then it would be referred to as say +9 units. The stadium screen uses $ value in the balance of money you have access to for your next bet.
For example if my base unit is $10 , my start bankroll was $2000 the amount I DEPOSIT in the machine I would remember don’t you think? So if I had been to -157units at that point my screen balance would be $$430 now we have ground our way back to $2140 ( +14 units) that’s already taking the commish into account. The screen say $2140 , there is no asterisk saying oh by the way your balance isn’t really $2140 it’s less because you been paying 5% on every bet you have won.
I don’t see what I don’t understand.
Say my final bet is in the OG sequence a 17 unit bet , I have +14 units ($2140) as I UNDERSTAND Jae posts he will now adjust that final bet down AND I ASSUME he’s taking into account the 5% because he wants to finish the grind, capture the target profit +20 units ($200) so he may make a 7 or 8 unit hopefully final bet to end the series and be + or - a few dollars example 7 units @$10 =$70 -5%. = $66:50+$140(+14units) =$2196:50 cents . Dam close to +20 units

Yes you could be right I DONT understand .
Here’s an extra big cheers to you craps , love your work. You certainly know your stuff. Cheers

 

don't think he does buddy. he plays to the original og. dont think he adds the vig to his or og count. just treats it as costs, rather than the need to play an extra hand to make it back

just that he makes much more in the short sessions and this covers up the loss from vig in the sessions from hell

 

Didn’t say he added the vig, read the post , the total on the screen said $2140 (=+14unit) how many hands it took to get to $2140 was not contemplated , the figures are simply example purposes to say the sum total is trapped irrespective of the configuration to get there, it is a sum total. It’s for the people that are hung up on the vig that’s paid along the way to this point total of $2140 . The point is the vig has been paid and now he’s +14 units. The example said his next bet was going to be a 17 unit bet in the OG. Jae said he would drop the bet to bring it closer to the target requirements. The reason I assume is to hit the target quickly at this opportunity, but if he lost , his grind continue at 8 units not 17 units. It buys him breathing room. Read the appropriate post.
So if he has +14 units he needs only 8 unit bet to get the target of 20 units. The case of 8 units automatically puts him over 20 units allowing for vig. But the example I used was a bet of 7 units putting him just under 20 unit profit to show the vig and the absurdity of you people fixation.

I didn’t say in that post he’s allowing all bets to factor in the vig, duh read the post.
Yes he just plays the appropriate bet at the stage of the OG. He grinds for whatever time it takes, note “ WHTEVER TIME IT TAKES” to get to that profit of 20 units. That is understood from his original posts and was NOT needed to be requoted by me. The last bet of his series is the bet I posted here as per his information he posted.
Cheers
Love your work craps

 

for those that cannot read, forgot, don’t understand or are just plain lazy. I’m hoping you all have a few wits about you so I don’t have to go into the quote and section off the relevant parts. I giving you all the the benefit of the doubt
Cheers

 

Once more in black and white, you will have to scroll down to just beyond half way of quote. Honestly are you all that brain fogged ?
Practice some comprehension skills. Unbelievable how some of you are even able to use your phone. Lol.
Cheers in all the nasty meanings of the word.
Here’s another cheers but in the nice sense of the word for you all that have more than half a brain.

 

And this of course. Just to help the dazed and confused in case you forgot it already.

CHEERS

 

Second and third paragraph, incidentally hamsup sotong this is the next page or so from your question to Jae , just to refresh you. Cheers

 

Get the point? Stop reading only your own posts it will help to comprehend what the theme of a particular thread is. Lol.
Cheers, that’s a happy cheers.

 

geez bro.. that got your knickers in a twist didn't it whahahah

all good

 

No just flogging the dead horse for the confused and was not directed to just you cuzzy bro. But if you feel it was only directed at you then I would say how’s your undies bro ?
Your a skippy so you will understand this when I say cheers bro.

 

Jae is not there to win just one time 21 units. When his total $$$ shows a surplus and need more action to get to 21 units, that means he HAD squandered all his previous 21 units win away on commission. Unless there is no big drawdowns, otherwise he could have won 100 units but left with 20 units overall because of the commish. I believed he does not withdraw his money in the machine after completing EVERY 20 unit win.

 

No betting progression will over come the house edge, and in the end you will eventually lose all your money no matter what you do.
So why play? Because it's fun of course. Don't play with money you can't afford to lose. Don't think your going to get rich, and enjoy the game.

That said, I use all sorts of progression systems both positive and negative. They all have their good and bad points.
coincidently, my next YouTube video will be on Oscar's grind and how I'm using it with Baccarat. This is the 1st time I've ever used it with Baccarat. It has been working very well, but like all systems, given enough time it will fail.

 

You are completely right and the reason we dwell on Jae's OG is because he did it with a gigantic bankroll of 2000 units and this left us all wondering whether it can be the difference maker.
Unlike Martingale where the bets gets high very quickly, OG is a gentle grind. For someone to lose 2000 units would required EXTENSIVE bad shoe after bad shoe. Furthermore he handicapped his approach with -20 unit before starting with real$$ from there.
Although I know about the pitfalls of progressions but I am not ready to brush off this particular one. You can say bad things about a short Martingale but if you can double up to 15 steps, and at the same time be selective of the entry point, it is really very very hard to lose. Perhaps once in 2-3 years. The question is if that fateful day comes, what will the bottom line be?
Imagine someone breaking up his 15 Marty into 3 x 5 Marty and bet sparingly. Busting 5 Marty back to back to back? Very unlikely. Have anyone tried it? Maybe an out of the ordinary big bankroll long progression is the Holy Grail. Just wondering.

 

It is inevitable that at some point in the future you will lose your bankroll. But that point may be so far advanced the risk of ruin could be very low, very low. The reason is unlimited bankroll and table limits.

The deeper into a progressions we go will require a greater imbalance to our side to overcome the commission.

With OG it may only require three wins in a row at first but as we go along and don't resolve it will require f
5 or maybe 10 wins out of 13 to resolve. Something like that. As long as we have the money and as long as we don't hit the table limit we are very likely with OG to resolve at some point. The risk of ruin is calculable.

His % risk of ruin becomes greater as his base unit becomes larger and larger as it is a function of table limits.