Roulette Outside the BOX

So true, but at the end of the day it remains random vs random what we are playing.
Thnx for the compliment but i'm no where near turbo's level of the game. He never loses a session, i'm still trying to find out what the best way to approach all of this is.
Personaly, i would stop and reset when first profit is made, but then again, you may miss out of the big hits along the way. And stop when as soon as a new high is reached isn't also alway a guarantee to win the game, like i mentioned before, where a session never went into profit at all for more then 600+ spins.

 

If I were gifted in progressions as you are Eddy, that's where I would focus. I haven't even looked at modifying the 1-2-4-8-16 version, I just changed the 6 to 8 at the start to keep it doubling and that was it. Rarely I'll do the other version you mentioned if I feel the odds are favorable to continue, ala 1-2-4-8-16-8, but that's the limit to what I've experimented with.

The natural thing I thought of after it began winning so often was increasing it, going to 1-3-9-27-81 or whatever, but it seems to add too much pressure to the 5th and 6th hits on individual numbers, it introduced big UPs and big DOWNs, enough so that you'd have to multiply your max draw down quit/reset stoploss point to an extreme level to handle anything other than the 1-2-4-8-16 version.

Try experimenting with it a bit, I bet you'll come up with something unique.

Turbo's 'never lose a session' comes from knowing to a much more detailed degree the circumstances of where the repeats/unhits are in a session and what the wheel is giving him at that moment.

For me the basic indicators of if I'm ahead or behind while doing the Brute Force method are so obvious that I can't miss them, anyone could pick them up just from the experience of playing it repeatedly. But Turbo can see where he's at in an individual cycle, per number, and recognize more variables related to how he's playing his particular methods. It's a gift for sure.

 

Like turbo mentioned before, playing towards something that always happens. adjust progression when data becomes more and more clearer along the way as more spins go by is the key to victory.

 

As always, i will do my very best.

 

We need to remember that we are using a progression not to overcome our losses, but to make more profit sooner!

 

To me, Turbo's most effective illustrations of how to attack repeats revolve around his Time Machine and Horse Race analogies. You can easily see how his overall philosophy plays into this particular version we're experimenting with via chasing repeats from unhits from the first cycle showing up, and being on them as they continue to hit.

But Turbo is Turbo, his mind for the game is so trained to see different circumstances happening as they occur and react to them. Even if let's say he gave me his bet selection for his most popular method, it doesn't mean I'm going to be able to exploit it.

Tiger Woods can PM me exactly how he hits a power fade with his driver with complete details about how he opens his grip up a bit and bends his right knee a few degrees more than usual, but that doesn't mean I can take those instructions then replicate his play...

 

would you mind sharing your spins, i have been testing a modified version of your post on here using 1 2 4 6 8 progression after i lost to this set of live spins, but with the modification i made i was able to beat that session as well, thanks

 

185 spins from lightning roulette test
1 2 4 6 8 progression

 

can you pprovide this spin set also and the 30 sets of spins you said you use always use to test? it was in an earlier post, i would like to test on the same sets, thanks

 

Eddy, a veces, las cosas son más fáciles de lo que parecen y seguimos intentando hacerlo más difícil.
Tanto para las repeticiones como para las no salidas, debes mantener todos los números del ciclo de 37.
Haga la progresión de la manera correcta, como se mencionó Turbo, cuanto más agresivo mejor, pero no es necesario usar 4 pasos, con solo dos también es posible.

 

Oh my yes, Turbo has written some deep stuff like, "Anyone starting at any point would win using something that doesn't lose."

And, "For a number to hit twice it first has to hit once."

 

Sergio, any suggestions wich progression to use?
You talked about a two step progression is enough as long as it is agressive enough.
And you also pointed out that we should keep all unhits on the table, once they show or from the beginning? gow would you play this?
Again, any help would be appreciated.
thnx
Eddy

 

Mako, I don't like these kinds of analogies, because we're not talking about a skill here in the way that golf is (or even VB). And it actually contradicts what Turbo himself has clearly implied - that he uses an algorithm which is purely mechanical in the sense that a computer could do it (it doesn't depend on the "human" element, and no practice is necessary, in the way that you have to practice to get good at playing golf).

 

To be on the same page, as i stated on the beginning of the thread, i am not saying this is the Holy Grail.

Do not spend your hard earned money in a land casino on any method that has not been properly tested. Gamble responsible, as an adult.

Test it, break it, dismantle it, hell, make it fail. If during your tests you meet a strong negative variance. Step back. Look at it. Try to see where you might improve your bet.

Observations are at the base of physics. All laws are made through repeated observations.
What happens with certainty?
What is true?
If it CAN happen, it WILL happen.

Why do those "sleepers" hit with such a good frequency? Over and over again. Why do they return IN time to their EV?

We cannot control the future, but can we get the prediction as accurate as we can, observing patterns, distributions of groups of numbers?
Reduce the variance to that blue horizontal line we saw in Jerome's last tests.

It is not a flat world as some of the AP players see it
You will never see 37 hits in 37 spins in your life. Sure it can happen in trillions of permutations. But so what? By then you should be on plus or dead for 100 years.

On topic now,
In every 37 spins cycle we face the same bloody 12-12-13. On average. 13 sleepers. 12 repeaters. The sleepers of the previous cycle should be included in the next cycle. The problem is that we end up with the a large selection of numbers. Maybe we should include the numbers only on the lowest hit dozen. The "dirty"dozen.

To be continued.

 

The same ratio happens with streets. You could always adjust method to streets, limiting your overall exposure and then create a progression based on cycles rather than a straightforward positive or negative progression, similar to what Eddy proposed. I have had a lot of success using Marty progression based on spin cycles of 12-24-36-48-60.

 

What if we track until we have 1 street unhit.
When it does wake up, we bet on that street and on the inside number in that same street.
We continue this adding of the all the 5 other numbers in that street once they show.

math should be the same!
we reducing alot on numbers out with this.
any thoughts?

 

All you're doing is reducing the numbers of bets that you will be placing. Whether or not a street has hit or not is irrelevant.

 

Unfortunately EV is not nearly good enough! After 10k spins, expectation is to be LOSING 526 units for a single number bet, and LOSING 2,630 units for five numbers bet with one unit on each number.



EV is not good enough. It means you're still losing.

 

Frodo, I think you are hinting at the Raindrops idea that Turbogenius had on his website

Nimo, I was thinking the same thing, betting streets instead of straight up. Please explain in more detail if you wish.