Roulette Outside the BOX

For all those testing Frodo's system (or variations of it) you should ask yourself - is the bet selection better than picking numbers randomly? If picking numbers randomly doesn't give you an edge (it doesn't) and the bet selection is no better than random, then IT won't give you an edge either.

I've written a little program (attached) which picks numbers based on the unhit numbers in the last cycle (or however many spins you specify up to 4 cycles). When an unhit number hits, the betting starts on that number and fresh numbers (from those previously unhit) are added as you get more spins. You can choose to play for a number of spins between 1 cycle and 3 (37 - 111 spins). You can also specify a maximum number of numbers to bet on. In parallel with these bets, numbers are chosen randomly and the results for this "system" are shown alongside the main system, so the only difference between the 2 systems is that in one the numbers are chosen according to the preferred bet selection and in the other the numbers (the same number of numbers) are picked randomly by the computer. Here's a short video showing the program in operation :



key to columns :

1. roulette numbers
2. how many numbers bet
3. Loss or Win
4. Current bank for main bet selection
5. numbers added. Also "NH" stands for "New High" balance
6. Current bank for random bet selection.
7. Loss or win for random bet selection.

After running the program, a file "data.csv" is saved in the folder. It contains the final bank and number of wins for both bet selections for each session. Results are added to the file when you run the program again. You can open this file in a spreadsheet and compare results.

There is no progression used - flat bets only. This doesn't matter because the point is to compare the "Ace" bet selection with picking numbers randomly. Does the favoured bet selection do better than random bets? You decide.

 

The misfits are on every forum and read every post.
It's only for one reason - when anything of value is posted, they can use it.
(while pretending it's all nonsense and posting memes).
It's just another aspect of forum poster - there are those who work hard and contribute,
and those who read silently. Then there are the misfits, who pretend to bash everything
while they are actually paying close attention. They want to win just like everyone else.
Sadly their only contribution to that goal is being annoying. It's sad that they need the
hard work and ideas of others in order to win - while pretending it's nonsense just in case
something doesn't work out (then they can claim to have been right all along).

 

Not sure if I'm a "misfit" in your eyes, but I've also worked hard to create a program so that others don't have to work so hard to test the system manually. I've contributed something of value, but you ignored it because you think I'm only here to criticize and ridicule.

Notice that I didn't say "it won't work"; I said test for yourself and come to your own conclusions. And if anyone wants a variation of the system coded, just let me know.

Experiment with different "waiting times"; if Frodo is right and numbers catch up then waiting for the unhit #s after 2 or 3 cycles should result in more wins (than just waiting 1 cycle) when the numbers eventually hit. Do you get better results if the number of number is capped at say, 4 or 5? You can easily test these theories with the software.

 

Good job Jérôme, continue to slap the mentally disabled forumtards, you have a lot of patience and dedication, hats off for that. Maybe the hits you inflict them will turn on the tiny light that went off when they were born!.

 

@Jerome,

Very nice little diddy there. Thank you. One question: Is it programmed to recognize the most recent unhit after the number specified have been identified. For example: let's say you're playing for 3 unhits and those 3 come up and are being played, then another of the unhits shows, does the application change to the most recent 3 unhits or does it just remain on the first 3 unhits that came up?

Many thanks.

 

Jerome, nice programming!
How do I get to the program, and run more trials? I keep seeing a re-run of the same numbers.

 

Turbo,

Your contribution is an infection of ignorance. It's no contribution at all. Now we have gullible people believing that they have the holy Grail going out and risking real money on your cult nonsense.

 

Exactly, the 10$ of Elvis didn't last long, hopefully another dumb didn't risk more than this.

 

Wally, if you choose to restrict the max numbers bet to a fairly small number (say 4 or 5) then when more numbers hit beyond what you've specified the earlier numbers continue to be played, but I can add an option to switch to the most recent if you think it's worth doing that. So at the moment if you restrict the max numbers bet to 4 and a 5th number hits (which is on the unhit list), this 5th number will be ignored. I could make it so that the 1st number in the list is removed in which case numbers 2,3,4,5 (in order of appearance) would be played.

@ davey,

I attached the program (repeaters.zip) to my post (#81), I think you're just talking about the video which is just a small demo it in action.

 

Hi Jerome,

Thanks for your contribution to the thread. Your effort is appreciated and please do note that it is not in vain. I will take a look and give it a test run in the future.
I would add a variation to it as follows:

LOOP:

STEP 1:
Cycle 1: (37 spins European Roulette ) No bet. Add to the pool of numbers to bet the zero hit
Cycle 2: spins 37-78: bet on the Numbers that hit from to the pool of selected numbers ONLY After they hit
Keep the "awaken" numbers on (newly 1 hits) , until the end on the cycle. If those numbers hit more than 1 time, we will be in profit. If not, go to step 2
STEP 2:
SPIN 78 : If we are at new High, Go to step 1 (retrack last 37 spins).
If a new High has not been reached, REMOVE ALL Bets. The pool will be refreshed with all zero hits and also the 1 hits from cycle 2 that did not make profit.

CyCLE 3: spins 78-111 once a zero hit hits first time, BET on in until end of cycle. Once a k hit(from last cycle 2, where k>=1) hits, BET on it until spin 111.
Keep the "awaken" number on (newly k hits) , until the end on the cycle. If those numbers hit more than 1 time, we will be in profit. If not, go to step 2

continue same algorithm until spin 185.
End of LOOP.

Flat bet


Regards

 

One last time, what are your contributions to the thread exactly?Dr Sir and Bago, ask yourself Who benefits from his type of disrespectful, rude, "know it all" attitude ?
If you do want to vent, you are free to add your own thread and leave all your frustrations there.

I ask you once again to come ON TOPIC and to stop this nonsense. Act like adults.

 

Thanks Jerome. Silly me!
I'm kind of a neutral in this debate, but I do like to play around with Basic programs to test ideas out. Guess it beats risking real £££s...

 

I have cornered Turbo who presented his ultimate proof he had the winning system with the pretend game Roulette Simulator. He cried and put me in ignore list that's quite an achievement and you fools really thought he had a special system lol. It is exactly because we are adults that we are telling you brainless kids that Santa Claus/HolyGrail system do not exist. You are of no use with your silly systems that do nothing more than losing money in a real Casino. Therefore, stop posting bullshit then we won't assault you and please refrain from crying you are worse than a little girl who got her candy stolen.

 

OFF TOPIC
Again, what does any of this have to do with this discussion?
Why do you feel the need to trash this thread with OFF topic clutter?
We are discussing an approach to look at this random game from a different angle.
You are more than welcome to add to the discussion with ARGUMENTS.
Be polite and respectful to all of the participants in the conversation. It`s a sign of maturity.

Can we at least refrain from insulting the other members of this forum?

 

The naive, the gullible, system junkies, and the poor and desperate like you benefit the most from my words of wisdom! Posting factual information that refutes fallacies, superstitions, and gypsy scams is the most valuable contribution that can be made on any gambling forum. Such golden contributions prevent forumtards from losing there asses in the real word when someone like Turbo comes around with his "Hey diddle diddle" nonsense.

 

Frodo,





By the way, YOU'RE WELCOME!

 

This thread shall also whither on the vine just like all the other duds which have surfaced from time to time .

ND

 

Because you don’t post anything anyone can use, other than go out and find bias in a wheel or learn VB, the most benefit you can provide are not words of wisdom, it’s your 2019 schedule so the rest of us can join you and piggy back your bets so we all prosper. If you really want to help, post the schedule...

BTW, I’m all for finding a bias, but continually bringing it up and offering nothing else is counterproductive to the forum. Goes back to the old adage, if you got nothing good to say ... don’t say anything at all.

 

Thanks Jerome, I’d have interest in that option. Appreciate your willingness to help.

 

What if we look at how many numbers that hit twice (F2) within the previous cycle of 37 spins, were to hit again in the current cycle?
Wait until they appear before wagering on any of these F2 numbers.

p.s. great program Jerome, thanks for sharing