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Roulette [Part1]The Quest To Find The Holy Grail

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Keyser Soze, Dec 13, 2021.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    OK Spike, enough of your cynism .. I gave too much of a leeway & soft-gloves.

    Yes, that is graal. No stop-loss & win in spite of it. That's all in essence. What else does you mi d need to get hammered in to comprehend such a basic principle. Someone with a dick is a man.
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

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    So why don't you sit down for 3-10h, virtual play & whatnot, but you prefer to skim off a bit & run? 7=& when answering to me remove that cynism as an conditioned effect of communicating on the forum +10 yrs.
     
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  3. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but Lucky, it ain't 100% ROI -- because you're not accounting comprehensively .. for the time spent.
     
  4. SPIKE

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    The Holy Grail is being able to sit down at any roulette table and immediately play and win your session and walk away. I cannot do that nobody can do that. Nobody will ever do that.
     
  5. SPIKE

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    Because I have a goal, a reasonable goal. If I can make that goal in one bet why on Earth would I want to sit there for 3 to 10 hours. If you can do a project in 20 minutes why would you want to find a way to stretch it out to two hours. If my goal is $100 why would I want to make $10 bets until I get to $100. I'll just bet $100, win, and quit. Or keep betting till I make the $100.
     
  6. thereddiamanthe

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    To compress what you can do in a month into a few hours block ..

    I don't drink .. but when I did get drunk many winters ago .. I always preferred a bottle of whiskey of 5-10l of beer.
     
  7. thereddiamanthe

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    @lucky, then again .. if my virtual-betting or trigger-betting method would offer me a much better u/all spins Played or not ratio, I don't see why I would not use it in a first-place .. & if only possible, combine it into a continuous betting one.

    But, as of now, exploring your guidelines hasn't resulted not even in a +ev yet .. may an indication of +few base units on a 100 spins basis, yet, on my rs account. ..
     

  8. SPIKE

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    Yes because you do it to make money not to entertain yourself or to have fun. So you make a goal that is attainable and you get it done as quickly as possible. It's a job, you want to be as efficient as possible. Otherwise you're just a ploppy, recreational player.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    Yes, sit there and bet and bet and bet until you get ass blisters. You will be the casinos best friend, they will send a car for you and pick you up at your house. Lucky you
     
  10. thereddiamanthe

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    Eh .. if you knew what I know.
     
  11. Ordinary_people

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    Holy grail for me :

    More win session than lose session.

    The more you play, the more you win (like Luckyfella said)
     
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  12. SPIKE

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    I'd be screwed? No thanks.
     
  13. thereddiamanthe

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    OK .. you're screwed now ..
     
  14. SPIKE

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    Not hardly. In fact I'm the polar opposite of screwed, the casino is screwed when I play. If you have the edge over the casino you own them during your play. That's why they hate card counters so much. That's why in the old days when the mafia ran Las Vegas they would bust your fingers with a hammer to keep you from playing. Casinos still have that attitude but they can't use hammers anymore and believe me if they could they would. When you walk into their casino they believe every dollar that's in your pocket and in your bank account belongs to them. And you better not screw with that by having a better game than they do.

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  15. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Regarding Bac?

    Here you go kid.

    1. The side bet Lucky Nines on the live dealt game. The edge can be enormous. Dr. Elliot Jacobson did a fabulous job explaining this one.(Easy)
    2. Hole carding the shoe...(very tough).
    3. Sort edge play, again the edge can be large. (Requires good eyes, and meticulousness that most people lack. Tougher than number one, but much easier than number two.)
    4. Shuffle tracking and exploiting the nonrandom shuffle machines. I know there are people trying to do this. I've heard rumors here and there, but that's about it. According to some nerds, the shuffling has predictability. (Very very tough.)
     
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    Now, regarding the ECs in roulette.

    Back in 2007, there was a LV strip casino that replaced the red inserts on their roulette wheels, but for some stupid reason didn't replace all of the black inserts or all of the inserts on some wheels. This created a tremendous red bias on the older low profile Paulson roulette wheels that were in play. The reason for the bias is that the red inserts set deeper, and deadened the ball more because once the old ones were cut out, they did a poor job of gluing the new ones in place. The red pockets absorbed more energy from the bouncing ball, causing the red numbers to hit more than they should have. In hindsight, I've often wondered if someone created the situation on purpose.
     
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  17. thereddiamanthe

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    Except I wasn't talking about the casino.
     
  18. Rond1nell1

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    Have you ever heard of the Eudaemons group?

    If they did it in 1970, I believe that with today's technology someone has already created a similar device. What do you think?

    Here is the link to the article about the Eudaemons:

    http://rouletteplaces.com/eudaemons.htm
     
  19. judge

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    @SPIKE, you're spewing the same shit here as you do on the baccarat page and you say you don't play baccarat. You keep saying the same thing over and over on both pages. Why do you need so much attention? Either give it up or tell these folks how you do it.
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    I have never played it with any seriousness because it only has one stream of information and I have to wait too long in between bets. I've seen whole shoes where I only saw a couple of bets. I would love to play Baccarat but I need three streams of information to follow and they aren't there.
     
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