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Roulette Parx online fun lol

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. Fossell

    Fossell Active Member

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    Would be great to see some others at Parx, for fun if nothing else, and practice.
    (please add me as you referral to, so I receive a signing up bonus though)


    ( not ;-) )
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    My method is not a system. It's an observation process for finding a functioning situational awareness. Now you could say the same thing about detecting the hottest number or numbers. But in that technique the player grinds away with the progression constantly adjusting for the hottest numbers. There is very little consideration for situational awareness of the effectiveness.

    Elegant patterns are so very rare. It could take months before a quality perfect patterns occurs. What's mostly interesting is how 99.9% of players ignore them out of their own inept pragmatism. Anyway, it's far more valuable to be seen as smart by following the crowd. Imagine being able to play at a casino for 20 spins in a row and knowing exactly what group of 12 numbers were to hit and exactly when. That person would be a fool of course. The special snowflake Roulette players can tell you how the world turns. Stick with them and be great in the safe zone.

    If I owned and operated Parx I would add special code like this to it as a server sided algorithm:

    Code:
    on cheatTheShill thisPoorSucker, thisListOfWinningNumbers
    global thisSpinNumber, thisListOfWinningNumbers, thisSpinValue, shillList
      if thisPoorSucker among the items of shillList then
        if mod 4 thisSpinNumber = 0 then
          put the number of items in thisListOfWinningNumbers into zingThis
          put random(zingThis) into cheatThisSpinNumber
          put item cheatThisSpinNumber into thisSpinValue
        end if
      end if
    end cheatTheShill
    
    -- this code would cheat for a win for the shill every 4th spin. It would do it in less
    than a ten thousandth of a second. That's just ten lines of code. Just imagine how
    clever the app could be with a thousand lines of code designed to manipulate the
    results. All these manipulations would happen in less and a 100th of a second.
    

    They also say that "there's a sucker born every minute." You must keep track of just who the sucker is. "If you don't know who the sucker is, then most likely you are the sucker." They say that too.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

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    There's no reason to. 95% of people or more are going to play until they lose and then purchase credits to continue playing. If they wanted someone to win, it wouldn't make sense without the "conspiracy theory" of picking one player to win - knowing they would talk about it - thinking others would sign up for free and play, and lose - and then those players would buy credits. This makes no sense.
    I've been doing great - building my bankroll and playing what works.
    They really have no reason to cheat since the supposed math and house edge is already in their favor.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    and then there is Celtic with the live wheel and dealer/video feed where I'm playing along with the paid players using my "play money" at the same wheel, at the same time.
    There's no way they could cheat that in order for "just me" to win. Since my wins are consistent at both and can be shown, it's more than enough proof that what works on RNG also works on a live wheel.
    We all know that 99% of players who lose think the game is rigged, the casino is cheating - there are 10 other excuses as well I am sure. It's just not the case.

    side note : from Celtic about an hour ago with the live wheel :
    13, 12, 12, 13, 12, 13, 13
    LOL. "Amazering".
    But people will say repeaters are nonsense. There has also been 24+ spins without
    a single repeat. But there always will be repeaters and you can always make a profit playing them, as I've said all along.
     
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  5. gizmotron

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    • You can't see the wisdom in keeping a shill list of perfect unaware stooges? As far as live feed wheels go. Are these real brick and mortar casinos where spins can be confirmed by real people at the casinos? I know that this is true in Britain and Germany. Just from a programmers stand point I can weave together video where I can pre-select the outcome. It could look like live video but it can still be manipulated to look real. There are 22 to 26 frames per second in a video stream. You can have a database for every seam point with regards to all the video that you see. The only way to validate spins is by having real people test for real results from time to time. The internet would catch all the cheating video feeds in this way and the casinos would get caught in their own schemes. But, just the same, video can be manipulated over the internet.
    • I'm guessing that your casino has been validated by real people at the casinos comparing real and internet feed results.
     
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    This one can be validated just by chatting with actual players at the table in the chat window.
    We would all have to see the same video stream in order to pull off a conspiracy theory like that.
    So..... if it was the case - the people betting real money would be the ones they would try to avoid
    paying on wins and have them lose. My play with "fun money" along side of them doesn't affect the
    casino at all - there would be no reason for them to use trickery against my plays.
    I know the first instinct is to think there's something at work - but in reality it's just that it's entirely
    possible that the "impossible" is now possible.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

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    No, Parx is a legit casino in PA - the website is for "play only" it is not a online casino - there are no deposits and withdraws, etc.... they have nothing to gain either way by letting someone win or tricking them into losing.
    I've mentioned this before.
    (Aside of course from your position that "I" was picked among all of the players there (thousands) to stay in the top 10 every week ((hard work I might add)) in order to mention it on a forum for people to play and lose and then buy credits when there is no cash payout to a winner.......) Let's stop the conspiracy when there isn't one and accept that there are ways to beat this game.
     

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    I went to the Celtic casino online. "Celtic with the live wheel and dealer/video feed" can be manipulated. Can you actually see players placing real bets on the layout? If you can't, then those players can be ghosts that are just algorithms. I just don't think that they would run a shill scam too though. You might have a progression that works. I don't know. It's hard to believe that a hottest number could be missed more than 100 spins in a row if you switch numbers along the way. I never tested my own made up hot number progression. Your claims suggest that I should. If it will work for one number it should work for three numbers as long as I have a switching method that works good.

    The only thing that would impress me is where you see other players placing live bets on the layout and where spins have been validated by comparison. This is both true in Britain and Germany live feeds.
     
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    Let's just say that you have it. What the heck are you doing here? Just how long do you think that the attention you are exposing yourself to will last for you as an opportunity? That's the ten ton elephant in the room.
     
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    Let's see. Real money casino, and paid shills to chat with you that can see your string of spins. I can see an opportunity for shills there. Still, you might actually have a winning method. Who Knows?

    Why are you not out making your millions as others have suggested that I should do? I've exposed my weaknesses and why I haven't made it yet. What's your issue? You've had this for at least 4 months now.
     
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  11. TurboGenius

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    I've been going once to twice per month and making enough.
    My goal isn't millions and I don't (and won't) draw any attention to myself.
    I make the amount that I want to make and leave. I pretend when I win that
    I'm shocked. I play their game against them and it works just fine.
    If I ever became undisciplined and went there planning to take a huge amount
    and then face the consequences of doing that... I would be more than angry with
    myself. Online it's fine - I'm expecting to get banned. If GN bans me when I start
    my real money play (which they certainly can according to their TOS) then so be it.
    I'll never be banned from a casino though. Milk forever and not cheeseburgers once.
     
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    1, 5, and 25 progression and enough winners outclass the looser sequences. It's probably possible. I don't see why you used so few steps. It's just that when you do win it's probably a huge recovery. Enough hot number wins must out pace the fewer losses. It's just a matter of assembling the stages. Those huge recoveries where you go ahead in your graphs show this much. Could it really be that simple? You don't try to grind a way with a slow recovery. You brute force attack the sequences. It's interesting. It's the only reason I've worked with others to consider it. But I think I will work on the concept of brute force recoveries that go far ahead at times. I will see. It would be far more fun to win with an almost mindless progression. By mindless I mean there is no evaluation of conditional awareness.
     
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    I think everyone has been told and preached to that progressions are bad for so long that
    many people who try to work out ways to win do their absolute best to avoid them - or at
    the very least keep them minimal. They no doubt think "Betting bigger means losing more faster
    and losing more faster is a bad thing". Makes sense, except when it doesn't....
    You could bet "1" for example and lose for a long time but 1 "5" bet recovers it all.
    You could lose "1" and "5" for a long time and "25" recovers it all with no problem.
    What people don't think about is that if you lose the 1, 5 and 25 - you should seriously
    re-think your bet selection method because it's NOT the progression that's killing the
    bankroll - it's how the numbers are being picked.
    People in emails have asked me how you play every repeater hoping for a 2 to become 3
    or a 3 to become 4, etc. I don't play every repeater.
    I posted this clearly in the charts that showed that out of the top 10 "hot numbers",
    I managed to play 1/2 of them. I didn't get the best "hot" number, I didn't get all 10 -
    hell I only got 1/2 of them - and guess what ? I only needed to play and win on 1 of them.
    With the math like that in your favor, there's no need to "fear" that aggressive progression.
    It's not "Oh no... I have to kick the bets up to cover my losses" it's "this next level is going
    to recover all of my losses and put me into profit as well".
    My bet selection isn't perfect, as I've said before. There's 37 numbers - I managed to play a few
    that were "hot" - anyone can do this... You don't need to be right every time, you don't need
    to be right 90% of the time. I am right about 50% of the time and will never lose.
    There's a good starting point. Aiming for perfection in a random game is a waste of time as
    too many people know already.
     
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    I keep repeating things - maybe that's a good thing, maybe not.

    You can't lose 1 single dollar or chip or unit (whatever you want to fill in the blank with) by
    NOT betting on a number that doesn't show up.

    You've just changed the math of the game. It's really that simple. How that works is what
    people need to figure out. But anyone who argues with me about that above comment doesn't
    know math - or the game - and maybe shouldn't play roulette at all.
    The casino loves everyone who plays the numbers that don't show up obviously. Don't be one of
    those people. That's exactly how to lose.
    Now - when you are playing the numbers that do end up showing up - you're going to win.
    How do you know the difference between what numbers are going to do what ? It's not magic,
    it's not mumbo jumbo, it's not false lies and claims of a madman lol.
     

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    That is where I was with my tests and discussions with others. But I do see the advantage of going only after three hottest numbers. You see 1/2 of the 8 to 12 available. I can create a smartest picking scenario where the app does a check of the most active guess among fewer than all the 2/3 candidates. Then apply that smaller group to the brute force concept. It's something to do.

    I hope you get what I see in this brute force concept. Anyone that knows the slow grind of gradual numerous steps in a progression can see the contrast between approaches.
     
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    Ken advised me that I should give up on teaching. You sound like you are trying to bring the inexperienced along with this revelation. It does not read like a hint. It reads like a cautionary form of basic foundation.

    I just wonder if Ken's advice also fits well with you too.
     
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    Kumbaya!! Made it to page 2. Don't think i'll have time to get ahead of the damn blackjackers.
     
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    2nd place.... 9 hours to go.....only 20k behind the leader !!!!
    Dammit I need a drink. Discipline says take 2nd and be content. lol.
     
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    Woh! You doubled up quick from a few hours ago?! Nice work. That last bit shouldn't be a problem.
     
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    There's still enough time for someone on the site to knock me down a peg. If not then I have first finally.
    Mentally exhausted. But hey, everyone wins. There's so many people at the top it's just a crowd of winners lol.
    Yeah.... as if....
    [​IMG]
     
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