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Roulette Parx online fun lol

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    When did this happen ? You don't know what I'm doing exactly, do you ?
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    In the beginning.

    I simulated betting on a chip on each number that showed, and added a chip each time it hit. I showed it over several horizons.
     
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    I see it all the time at the casino. So-n-so is doing quite well playing a "certain way". Then he strays off course, not betting in the SAME manner that got him to that point. Sure as all fuck, bye bye profits, bye bye BR...out the door broke. (rofl)

    Ken
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Did you account for "hot numbers going cold" and other cold numbers getting hot, etc - and see where the eventual downfall is and how to fix that ? I'll give you a hint - the progression can't be +1, +1, +1.
    If Bago said anything right, he's right about it being a strong progression, at least 1,2,4,8 and never 1,2,3,4. The wins (that are guaranteed to happen thanks to random) have to produce enough profit to offset the bets that have lost with lower amounts on them.
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    I'll give you a hint...In the real world of gaming, a progression can't turn a losing system into a winning one. In other words, it's irrelevant if you don't already have an edge.

    My point is that you're not playing a "random stream of numbers." You're playing a cartoon wheel.
     
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    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I completely agree.
    I have an edge.
     
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    You two are funny. Friends but kinda not friends......
    (I'm watching...Alien: Resurrection, in case anyone was wondering)

    Ken
     

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    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I like that guy, seriously I do. Not even a joke or anything - I'm being honest.
    I have a lot of respect for him and what he does, and he's good at it.
    I just think it's a shame that he's locked out any possible answer to beating the game that involves systems.
    I know for a fact that if we were in the same room chatting and I explained this, he would say "Shit, that makes compete sense" lol
     
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    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Only because you're playing on a cartoon wheel. ;)

    When your method was simulated on my live data, it still lost.
     
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    The thing is, (not be mad at me CJ) if you (we) are correct Turbo, then that means he is wrong and THAT is the sticking point. Has been for years. The *ONLY* way both of you are right, would have to be a coincidence, you guys betting on the same numbers. Can both be right? Thats the million dollar question, pardon the punn.

    Ken
     
  11. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I told the guy, we'd end up playing the same numbers for different reasons and both winning -
    but he's too stubborn to listen to me Ken. lol
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    Alright, 2 hours to go, I'm done for this week - stick a fork in it ! Gimme my first place trophy !
    [​IMG]
    exactly 24,005 spins where bets were placed. (not enough spins right ?)
     
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    "don't be mad". I wish we had more than 5 minutes to edit.

    BTW.....nice job Turbo!

    Ken
     
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    So tell me Turbo, which numbers would we both likely be on?

    8
    0
    4
    31
    28
    29
    5
    5
    37
    32
    26
    24
    35
    15
    37
    29
    12
    3
    11
    1
    0
    3
    26
    14
    36
    21
    18
    19
    33
    8
    16
    15
    20
    14
    18
    8
    13
    12
    30
    18
    14
    27
    20
    10
    35
    27
    7
    9
    8
    35
    26
    11
    24
    27
    18
    29
    29
    3
    22
    27
    31
    21
    30
    27
    13
    10
    24
    29
    14
    0
    26
    33
    37
    19
    3
    25
    13
    0
    16
    5
    3
    14
    25
    4
    8
    20
    37
    27
    22
    34
    0
    30
    3
    5
    35
    1
    10
    15
    26
    9
    3
    21
    1
    29
    23
    0
    23
    36
    30
    19
    3
    24
    12
    0
    25
    29
    35
    2
    36
    1
    17
    4
    34
    6
    17
    2
    15
    1
    6
    14
    37
    9
    25
    4
    9
    6
    5
    34
    7
    30
    4
    29
    21
    26
    0
    12
    15
    26
    9
    36
     
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    Yup – Bankroll ring-fenced. It was late. Didn't have time to continue. Just fancied a shot a third, so had a bit of fun with it that got out of hand. Lesson learned!
     
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  15. TurboGenius

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    If they are in order with the last number being the newest number spun ?
    I ended with +$2,075.00 using $25.00 units / or +83 units

    I had 6 wins on 3 / it showed 8 times, I won 6 of the 8 times.
    I had 2 wins on 14 / it showed 6 times, I won 2 of the 6 times.
    I had 1 win on 18 / it showed 4 times, I won 1 of the 4 times.
    I had 1 win on 29 / it showed 8 times, I won 1 of the 8 times. Shame. it's not perfect.
    I had 1 win on 5 / it showed 5 times, I won 1 of the 5 times.
    I had 1 win on 9 / it showed 5 times, I won 1 of the 5 times.
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    12 bets won with aggressive progression for +83 units over 145 spins.
    I averaged 2.72 numbers played per spin.
    I averaged 3.6 units bet per spin on the table.
    Here are the top numbers and the numbers I played and won on with a dot.
    I managed wins on 5 of the top 10 showing numbers, even though my wins
    were 12 wins out of a possible 36
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  16. TurboGenius

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    I would assume (if this were a list of bias wheel numbers) that "you" would be playing the majority of your chips on the wheel section numbers (12-35-3-26-0-32-15)
    You would have won 38 times with a +2.24 std deviation but I don't think this is a bias wheel (or as you say - not enough spins to know)
     
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    upload_2017-7-3_11-20-52.png Standard deviaton graph upload_2017-7-3_11-22-47.png
     
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    Not even close. The numbers that we would have been on would have been much different.

    In the short term world it's not possible for your system to distinguish between the random goats and the real biased numbers. The reason is that even biased numbers will fluctuate during short term periods.
     
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    I can and have simulated what you're doing countless times over the years. It works...until it doesn't. There's simply no comparing it to the real thing. If you'd like real proof, then I can handily post the simulations for it on this wheel.
     
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    So I play hot numbers (goats you say ?) over a short session of spins and then restart while you play long term hot numbers that are bias.
    Certainly I can record what numbers I won on (like above) and over many session (whatever you require before "you" start betting).... I can show you what the numbers are that I won the most on - they will be the hottest numbers (or close). Because I play a shorter session and don't need thousands of spins to prove anything before I begin - that doesn't make my way any worse. And in my records you'll see the numbers that you'll be playing because of the bias... I just played them because they were hot (possibly) during my shorter sessions all combined.
    But fair enough, it doesn't matter really - as long as we both win.
    It works until it doesn't ? When "doesn't" it work ? What needs to happen in order for me to fail ?
    I know the answer to that, that's how I claim that it can't lose. And so far I'd say it's going very well.

    edit - at least at Parx, I can't possibly lose now due to my unit size and bankroll amount. Even 100 terrible sessions back to back (have yet to have 1 - because it won't happen) and I'm still fine. The proof that you are right would be if my balance doesn't keep growing... I say it won't. Even if I quit now and walked away with this massive bankroll - I would have been a winner. I know it's a game - as long as you keep telling yourself that, there's no point in you trying to figure out what I'm doing and why it works.
     
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