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Roulette Parx online fun lol

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Yep. Typically everyone in the shot is in on it - some act better than others though.
    It bothers me that magic is only possible when people aren't educated - which is ok, it's
    entertainment.. but it still bothers me.
    I can understand with kids at a party where "magic" seems magical - but for adults
    who should be educated - magic is just a way to exploit what people don't know.
    I remember watching him take a dead fly from a window sill as he walked up with other
    people and brought it back to life and it flew off.
    People were actually proclaiming him as some kind of God or that he actually had the
    power to bring a living creature back to life - but it's only because they didn't know
    science or specifically "how" he did it, and to them that was enough proof.
    As it turns out, you can take a fly and put it in the freezer or fridge for a few minutes
    and it will appear all but dead - laying on it's back, legs up, surely dead.
    The assistant puts it on the sill before they walk up - who would notice this ?
    So he walks up and says the bullshit "Want to see magic ?" and carefully picks up
    the fly - the dead fly of course (lol) and cups it in his hand... blows warm breath on it,
    holds it gently and says whatever he needs to say.. and "poof"...it jumps up and in a
    second or two flies off.
    Sure, it's amazing to watch and it's all in the presentation - but it's nothing other than
    a staged trickery that exploits people's lack of knowledge.
    Then (and if) another magician explains how these things are done - they are the
    "bad guy". People tend to want to believe the lies and reject the truth and anyone
    who speaks it. That's just human nature - religion is exactly the same way.
    It preys on people to believe in something magical and holds out events that are
    magical - that surely only a "God" could do - and people dump their money into the
    baskets every week. It's a shame. Speak out against it and they'll run you out of town.

    Good watching - some of these are amazing, but all easily explained.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkozSCYe1posLlfjUhaJOkw
     
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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    And don't forget the "flip side" of this whole lesson.

    When someone does something legit and those too ignorant to explain it - can't....
    then it's "magic", "voodoo", "rigged", "fixed", "not realistic"....
    but they can't do it... they don't have to... they don't believe it's possible.
    They just call foul and explain it away with nonsense instead of gaining the knowledge
    on how to do it themselves. Strange how that works. David Blaine can raise a fly from the dead
    and bring it back to life. Jesus can cure diseases and raise from the dead Himself !! but
    Turbo can't possibly win 1/2 million in one week - it's ALL RIGGED ! Amen. Ignorance is bliss.
    (and doesn't pay very well)

    (intentional bragging about this weeks results on the site the thread is about)
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    Do it outside of free mode instead of on a site where even the slot players are winning millions and I'll be impressed. Lol!
     
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    and what would that prove and why does he need to impress you?
     
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  5. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I already am and have been.

    He wouldn't be impressed. He'll say "not enough spins".
    I wonder if he has kids sometimes.

    "Dad, I got a A+ in science !!!"
    ..
    ..
    "I'm not impressed, lots of kids got A's - if you want to impress me -
    graduate as summa cum laude !!"
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    Kid goes to it's room and cries lol
     
  6. Bago

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    Turbo, does your HolyGrail also work against horse racing? If yes, I let you play with my real money account !
    [​IMG]
     
  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, only if the horses run completely randomly, which they don't.. so no.
     
  8. Sharptracker

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    Well Turbo, it's funny because we could transpose all this to holy grail players... you don't believe David Blaine or any magicians to have supernatural skills but you're agree to say that you got particular system that beats Roulette even if it's impossible with a mechanic system.

    I can't imagine myself playing a system online for fun while i know it is a winning system till 500k and i guess nobody would.

    I wouldn't be that impressed, look at this crap system that have been played for real. In a bit more than one week it has won much more that all those Hg and hit&run players.

    Normally with a performant system it should be a formality to poke that historic... let's wait&see
     

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    There are flat races and jump races called "Handicap" which are in theory random because the best horse n°1 has to carry the most weight and n°18 the least quality horse with the lowest weight. That's why there is never a big favourite on those "lottery" races and all horses finish very close to the finish line.
     
  10. TurboGenius

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    So then the goal is basic equality among all of the competitors.
    In random there is rarely every equality. There is long term expected equality but with random
    that never happens (or it's very rare). That's why repeaters work - the list of numbers
    that appear never appear equally over a stretch of time.
    If the goal of the horse race is to make it fair and equal for all of the horses, then there's
    nothing random about that. There will still be a winner because of non-random factors though.
     
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    Yes it is the goal, and for me and my maths, it does not differ at all with a Roulette Spin (all 37 numbers has the same chance of hitting on an unbiased wheel).
     
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    It's apples and oranges. Magic is only illusion, making someone disappear doesn't mean that anyone disappeared.
    Cutting someone in half when clearly no one was cut in half is illusion. The viewer doesn't know how it's done (ignorance) ((not an insult)) but with education (knowledge is power) they can learn how it's done and do it themselves.
    What I'm doing is beating the math of the game with math, it's black and white and there's no trickery -
    anyone can do the exact same thing, however people haven't and it's been deemed "impossible".
    Not much is actually impossible though. I try to push people in the right directions to look and if they are
    interested and follow that path - then great. If they shake their heads and say it's impossible, then sadly
    for them it's always going to be impossible. There will never be enough spins played as proof because
    the answer will always be "not enough spins played yet". I could post the math - but why ?
    Look on a product label and many times you'll see non-specific ingredients - because the company doesn't
    want it's competition to replicate it's exact process and make it's own product worthless.
    In the same way, posting a step-by-step process for literally anyone to win would destroy any value
    it has. The game would either be changed (as it has been before) or just removed. What value
    is a "HG" to anyone when the game has been altered to defeat it.
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    but it does differ. In roulette we have a random outcome (aside from the dealer's participation and the mechanical wheel) but these don't seem to change the outcomes enough to make it "not random".
    Adding or removing weights from a horse to try to make them equal isn't equality, and surely not random in outcome.
    There are probably 100 different factors where one horse would still have a clear advantage over others racing.
    Mood, diet, energy level at the given moment, who knows....but they won't be equal. I see you're saying that they are expected to perform equally (like roulette) - but they can't unless they all have the exact same conditions and circumstances (like the numbers on the wheel).
     
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    On an RNG well made you are surely right, but on real wheels, I believe it is very hard to have all pockets having 1/37 odds to hit. You have laughed when I told you cleaning the wheel made me lose against a biased wheel, but imagine a wheel that is not cleaned evenly, there will be some pockets with more dust than others or some locations on the cone more waxed than others and it of course make the wheel not completely random because the ball jump will be affected by those physical "defects" and we are not talking about a real wheel that you may have played in your local casino that had biased numbers without you knowing it.
     
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    Turbo, I have an idea, instead of playing at Parx, you could play for real money online thanks to donators, I believe you will have a lot here and at other forums. Why not organizing a pot that would constitute the bankroll and you would redistribute a % according to the donation amount of each participant, you of course take your share.
    The goal would be :
    1) to prove that your HG can work against real casino conditions.
    2) Your aim to help others that can't figure out your HG.

    You could create a tipeee or patreon account to collect the money and start to play! What do you think about this?.
     
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    Well, I say online casino but you could play also in your local casino, as long as we receive our monthly dividend, we will believe you are winning, but I hope you won't use the Ponzi trick lol!.
     
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    Of course Turbo, i haven't said that you should put it in public... i meant once you know you got a winning system, it becomes totally irrational to play for fun till you get 500k.
     
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    No, it's fine. It's good for demonstration purposes so that people can see that things are possible.
    I'm also too competitive to have something sitting there where I'm not a top player lol.
    Of course it has to be fair and random and not a total waste of time (like Celtic where spins are "real time"
    and building up a substantial balance in "real time" is a waste instead of doing it for real)
     
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    So you are right all along. JP was too. So I like better chances than 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

    I came up with 3, 2, 3, that nets you 8 in just three steps. It's so much easier to get three wins in a row than 6. It plays well with swing trading techniques.
     
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    Gizmo ,


    The 3 - 2 - 3 a good choice too .


    ND
     

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