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Discussion in 'Las Vegas Forum' started by RobSinger, May 27, 2022.

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  1. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    And I stand by that...there is no value in posting here. As usual, what you are insinuating is a lie. I told Rob that I would no longer engage with him, as long as he continued the homophobic and other personal attacks. And Rob responded by toning down that kind of rhetoric AND taking the opportunity, to state that the nasty persona he has portrayed isn't really him. That he is really a nice guy and has gay and black friends. I don't know that I believe Rob has gay and black friends or even that he is a nice guy. I don't know him to know that about him. I know the nasty hater Rob Singer that he now claims is not really him.

    But in the aftermath of that, Rob has toned down and I have enjoyed some discussion with Rob and others, like Mickey about the MIT team and movie "21".

    And I will tell you the same thing. I no longer am going to respond and interact with you just spewing hate and lies. And for what, because I am one of a number of people that doesn't believe your "story" and great adventure. If you want to start to act live a decent, civilized human being, I am happy to engage in respectful discussion, even if we disagree. If not, don't expect me to respond to your playground hate attacks and lies.

    Dude, yesterday, you announced at WoV that you were taking a side trip, a vacation from your Las Vegas trip or vacation. Weird as that is....whatever. And now less that 24 hours later supposedly on your vacation side trip from Vegas, here you are posting attacks of me. What kind of person does that? Stop being so obsessed and seriously, act like a normal person, or you will be talking to yourself, because I will not respond to you. Your choice.
     
  2. coach belly

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    A person who has their phone with them, and a few minutes to check a forum that they participate on.

    What's the big deal?

    Did he declare or commit to not participating any longer,
    and then immediately renege on that?...because that would be fucked up.
     
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  3. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Of course it is possible, coach belly. about half of my posts are on my phone (the auto correct is terrible), sometimes responding from a casino on my lunch break. That is not the issue. The issue is someone announces a vacation (from their vacation), and then continues their frequent positing...feud type posting from that "vacation". That seems weird to me. It shows an obsession.

    Not let me just say, I am taking the same position with you, CB. I am done with all this hate and lying. I see all this hate from social media which includes forums spilling over to real life, with shootings and attacks and all the hatred. I just don't want to be any part of that any more. If you or anyone else wants to engage in reasonable, respectful discussions (even if you disagree with me) I am game, but I just am not going engage with anyone, just attacking and lying.

    Now let's move on to football. Did anyone catch the end of Jacksonville/Baltimore game? They seemed to re-write the rules book with 14 seconds to play. The Jacksonville receiver caught a TD tapped one foot down in bounds, that foot then went up in the air and he re-tapped that same foot down and then his knee hit out of bounds before the second foot came down. Oddly to the surprise of myself, announcers and the on air officiating expert, it was ruled a TD. meaning tapping one foot twice counts as two feet. This is going to have to be addressed. If tapping one foot twice counts as 2 feet, I am surprised this hasn't come up before.
     
  4. coach belly

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    What should he be doing on his vacation, besides whatever he wants to do?

    Is it reasonable of you to expect that members not post while on vacation?

    Isn't it hateful to insult them for posting while on vacation?

    Are my questions disrespectful?
     
  5. KewlJ

    KewlJ Well-Known Member

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    Your questions are just more trolling. That is what you do on these forums. I can't stop you, but I will NOT participate any longer.
     
  6. coach belly

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    You always cry "trolling" when you are afraid to answer the questions.

    You criticized a forum member for posting on his vacation, as if you're not trolling.

    So don't participate.

    You don't have to announce it over and over again, like a boy who cries wolf.
     
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  7. MDawg

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    Along with mcap, ozzy, JBS, monet, punkcity, mission146, accountinquestion, blackhole, bosox, axelwolf, seedvalue, robsinger, unjon, caveman377, kaboom, coachbelly, mickeycrimm, dandruff, and everyone else,
    acescracked_12110 said it pretty well when he nailed down the UNKewl one with: Just a quick reminder that after all the blather, there's only ONE poster who takes himself so seriously that he felt the need to fake his own death on a gambling forum. Perfectly reasonable thing to do, of course, and he has a *perfectly reasonable* explanation for it, just as he has air-tight explanations for all the other bad behavior he's engaged in in these spaces over a VERY long period of time.

    In other words, of course he's going to come up with some "but...but" explanation for why his I won't do this or I won't do that ever again had qualifiers, but then...that's why he's the UNKewl one.

    Ozzy on the UNKewl one: He's very UNKOOL and will remain so, till the end of time. Nothing can ever make him cool whatsoever !

    Kaboom on how lost the UNKewl one is: The fact that you don't understand shows how ignorant and naive you are.
     
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  8. RobSinger

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    I don't like losing 3 games in one day, two in OT and the other by a hair.

    38-19-2.
     
  9. redietz

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    Basically the flip side of the 5-0 week, where three or four games came down to last second plays. That's why I hate having serious money on NFL games.

    Your record vis-a-vis Dan's reminds me of about 10 years ago when I went 66-34 ATS for the season in an online monitored competition that featured my actual plays. The prize was winner take all, and unfortunately a guy who played primarily Mountain West and Pac 12 college totals kicked my ass. He was unconscious. I won 17 ATS in a row and lost. LOL. Brutal.

    Dan had an 0-1 weekend in the NFL, which now puts some separation between the two of you.
     
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  10. KewlJ

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    Both Singer and Dan Druff will be down at or below 60% by the end of the season (6 more weeks). I suppose DD could avoid that fate if he only picks 1 game a week trying to stay near 67%, but that is more or less fudging the numbers. If he makes the normal number of picks, however it is that he decides his picks....60%.

    And that is not knocking either. 60% is damn good. I think every sports better, recreational on up would love to have a 60% year. It doesn't seem like that big a difference between 58-60% and 67%, but long term it is a very big deal. A player just can't maintain that over the year picking a reasonable amount of games. You saw the perfect example yesterday with Rob. Despite how incredibly well he has done, yesterday he went 0-3. That means he needs to win his last pick of the week, tonight, plus go 5-0 next week, just to get back to where he started the day yesterday. It just becomes harder and harder to maintain.

    It is sort of like a baseball player batting .400. Come May 1, a month into the season, there are usually several players at or near .400. but nobody has maintained that for a whole year in over 80 years (the modern game). This is really the small/large sample size that we often talk about in gambling. So many "systems" and things work for a short period (small sample size), but over a larger sample size, that "magic" disappears, and the math takes over. ALL this stuff is math. EVERYTHING is math.
     
  11. redietz

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    Yes, 60% is damn good.

    I actually praise Dan for not sticking to some set number of plays and for utilizing money lines and totals. Sticking to a set number of plays each week is artificial. It would be like sitting down at a blackjack table with a script that says you have to make x number of bets each time. From a serious gambling standpoint, it's not useful. From a contest standpoint, it's okay, as contests aren't pure gambling.

    That's why I have stated over and over that nobody has done what Rob was claiming to have done (two years of 68% NFL ATS making five plays a week). Public NFL contests often have that five-games-a-week fixture. Nobody has ever done what Rob claimed to have done.

    I have seen the multi-year records for hundreds of sports services in my life, and nobody topped 65% NFL for two years running with any decent number of plays (100 or more).

    Rob and Dan are having great seasons. As I said last week, however, 12 weeks isn't really close to 18. There is a long, long way to go. I got off to a 17-2-1 ATS start the year I was on TV in the Buffalo Satellite Handicap. I finished 45-35, which was damn good. It just didn't feel like it was damn good after that start.

    I wanted to add -- I think kewlJ had a pretty good analogy there. Winning 68% NFL ATS for one year, which I subjectively estimated as being about 3000-1 against, is in the ballpark of batting .400 for a baseball season.
     
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  12. redietz

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    The Colts were an embarrassment. A guy who never coached NFL before blew the two minute drill at the end. You have to take a timeout when Ryan runs for 15 yards to set up the third and one. You must take a timeout there. That was horrendous.
     
  13. KewlJ

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    He was saving those timeout until next week, when he will start the game with 5 timeouts. :rolleyes:

    Hiring Jeff Saturday, a former player with no coaching experience is the least of their problems. Matt Ryan, a guy from the Philly suburbs, had a good and long career for a guy I always thought was very average. But like a lot of guys, he stayed 2 years too long. That doesn't mean 2 years past his prime, that means two years past the time of even being a back up in this league.

    But before I criticize the many players that do stay too long, I guess I should really be lucky enough to be in that position with someone throwing several million dollars at me to play one more year (too long). I probably would stay too. But MattyIce is really embarrassing himself and frankly, I am concerned he is going to get seriously hurt.
     
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  14. redietz

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    Ryan looked old, but a big chunk of that was his receivers got no separation at all. Everything was rolled to double Pittman, and nobody else was able to separate except the bigger of the tight ends.

    Yeah, not taking a timeout there would have gotten you fired as a high school coach where I grew up. By the way, have you ever heard of Berwick, PA? USA Today had them as the best high school team in the country a couple of times in the 80's. They were a few miles down the road.

    Man, you cannot butcher a two minute drill like that. There is no excuse.
     

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    Only slightly related, there is another aspect of the two minute drill that is mismanaged by nearly every coach at both professional and college levels, despite that announcers sometime reference it.

    That would be when a team trails by 9, 10, 11 points with 2 minutes or less remaining and has the ball. In almost every instance the team goes for the touchdown first, often using almost all the remaining time to do so. At that point a touchdown, onsides kick and field goal is needed, but it doesn't have to be in that order. I would get to about the 30 yard line as quickly as possible and kick a field goal, leaving as much time as possible after on onsides kick (if it were to be successful).

    That way if the onsides kick was successful you would have a minute and a half to get a touchdown. You could run legitimate plays, even in the middle of the field (and spike the ball).
     
  17. RobSinger

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    After a dismal 1-4 week I'm going to honor Alan by, at 38-20-2 I'm calling it quits, and cashing out with about a $1780 profit @ 65.5%.

    It wasn't my poor showing this week that's made me lose interest. I'm a fan, and a fan of Tom Brady and the Bucs. What's happening to that star-studded team is a shameful tragedy, and it's a solid testament to where Affirmative Action hiring policies will get you. Bowles is one stupid fu*k, and Leftwich is just as pathetic.

    Brady's thrown over 440 passes with just 2 int's. And idiot Bowles is claiming he didn't call timeouts at the end of the 4th qtr. because he was afraid Brady might throw an interception!? That's the picture of a big fat black liar right there. He wasn't even man enuf to admit his multitude of errors. Not calling a time out before the Cleveland TD so Brady would have a little over a minute for a final FG drive? The same guy who brought his team 60 yards for a winning TD in 30 seconds with no timeouts against the Rams the game before? And what kind of weak-ass coach doesn't let Brady go for a 4th and 2 at the Brown's 37....yes, the same QB who's made a Legend of himself for his clutch plays for 23 years?

    This game ended my interest in the NFL, unless the Bucs make the playoffs OR the ownership fires the most incompetent, lying SOB coach to come down the affirmative action pike in history. Jets fans are laughing their asses off today, knowing first hand what a POS loser Bowles is and has always been. And now he's a LIAR to boot!

    On another note, I came to LV yesterday to meet some friends who are in town from Iowa for the NFR. Not my thing, but I did take them to dinner at Don Vito's inside South Point last night. That place, although ownership has changed, is just as good as it's always been. Tonight Cindy and I are headed over to Barry's at Circa for dinner, and tomorrow we unfortunately have to attend the downtown hoedown? with our "guests", and then dinner at Oscar's at the Plaza. A great way to forget about a football league that's going in the wrong, woke direction.
     
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  18. MrV

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    Gosh, the success of the scrambling black QB's must really chill your racist heart.

    Sorry Rob, but white pocket passers like Brady are yesterday's news.

    But you can console yourself with the dearth of black centers and kickers.
     
  19. redietz

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    I thought the 4th-and-2 was the key call. I didn't understand it. If he doesn't make it, you can still win the game.

    I can see hanging it up where you stand. You did a good job. You can always say you went 38-20 in 2022 ATS in the NFL.

    Not quite as good as my two best NFL years, but pretty snappy.

    You can follow me in the "Obscure NFL Contest" thread. I have to come to terms with the fact that it is unlikely that I win any of these contests. My goal will be to maintain where I am, which is also unlikely but at least in the realm of possibility.

    My friends and partners returned from LV two weeks ago, with a stay at the Golden Nugget for a full week. Four of the 10 wound up with Covid, so be warned. In general, by the way, Circa has the best futures in LV.
     
  20. RobSinger

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    And no doubt you've been believing that nonsense for years. BTW, WHO were the QB's on the last two Super Bowl-winning teams? I forget....were they scrambling black QB's?? Their success rate is mind-boggling :)

    Silly woke ideology never wins.
     

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