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Roulette question on Labby!

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by asterix, Jul 18, 2022.

  1. asterix

    asterix New Member

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    Hi, First excuse my English, i use translator, to better write in English.

    Do any of you know the progression used by Norman Wells' group of 13 in 1965?

    In he's book, is only writing, each member have 90 Pound = 1280Frs. in 1965
    2600 Fr. was Max. Table limit.
    So i think, he's crew, have start with minimum 2Fr.
    So each member from he's 90£ should change it to 3/3 chips.
    For ~400 Frs. 2 Francs Chips
    400Francs 5Francs chips
    and the last third, with 10 Francs Chips.

    So to Full Day Game, full 13 members have won 800 000 Frs.
    Any member have won 49 000 Francs.
    But nothing was explain in book, about, the basic stake which was used, if he win Labby, Which have play it as basic, or if this was special, with more security!

    thanks!!
     
  2. asterix

    asterix New Member

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    Sorry, was Norman Leigh, not Norman Wells.
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Sir ,


    Good reporting .But all your monetary example should have been in line with the

    currency of the 21century $ EUro .


    Fair enough ?
     
  4. soxfan

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    The Norman Leigh and his squad used the reverse-labby, not the standard labby, hey hey!!!!
     
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  6. asterix

    asterix New Member

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    @ Nathan hello, and my answer = 800 000 Francs from year 1965 =
    1 121 119,02 Euros year 2022.


    So, all 13 group members, have start labby capital from 90£ or 250$ in 1965.
    So each crew member have the half value, to Bet or to Stake the maximum Stake Limit on table Nice.
    £90 = 250 $
    And maximum Bet or stake limit was £190 = 525$.

    But if 1965, the casino from Nice, have 2Francs or 1 Francs Table as minimum Bet????

    Here ontly, Norman leigh in his book, have say:
    So, here i think, the minimal value to Bet or Stakes should are 2Francs on table.

    And so i think about writing the Beting method, was in Value so here should start with:
    2
    4
    6

    Because, entire group, have change here in 3 values, 2-5-10 Francs.
    And to write
    1
    2
    3

    Here so, when it should Bet 5 Francs or 10 Francs, or a Mix of Chips, so the writing Go into incomprehensible or illegible or not unterstanding, by next played coup or "spin", the amount the player should Bet.

    But now, if the Group, have played the Reverse Labouchère, Fully in he's basic, or if the Progression was modified to have more security by he's Bet value?????


    Because, here you don't should Forgot, that in Zoppot the Great Series comming out in the history, and here to Bet on on opposite chance, So to Bet opposite 120 Serie Chance, here the player is go upper table max limit with he's Bet, if it play with a Martingale.
    So here all is ok, so chance series comming only out each 2.097.192 coups, and by 200-400 coups per day=each 10485 day, the serie can comming out.

    And here, nothing date is done. Today in Casino this use non-Bias Roulette, but in year 1900 and later, the casino don't have knowledge about Bias Wheel.
    So many Gambler have won, because the wheel was Biased, So today, If we would play old or wery Old system, from a player which have won many money.
    So the player should modify the basis of system, so to are able to play and win today.

    This is only my personal vision.
    And in Online Casino??? the Roulette are electronic, So the player today don't see any if Roulette are programing on Bias or without Bias.
    And today, with online roulette, don't forget, the program for roulette, use List, so after a amount of Series winning, can coming a list with fully lost. A the entire time, who this list don't are finish, so long time the player should on lost side.

    The changing of List, this player remark his when the Roulette program need time to select new List....
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thanks for the Euro conversion .


    ND
     

  8. asterix

    asterix New Member

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    Hi Median joe!
    You'r first link, in wikipedia source
    Here it don't make on side, The Casino Manager havec lost many money, and the same Casino manager, which have done lighten smile, by answer to Leigh, as he write in his book the Encounter:
    So this same Person, which have call Gendarmerie to arrest Leigh. And make Accusation as "Crook and Charlatan"!
    Is sure, Casino chef, and Casino Croupier, don't have knowledge about Reverse Labby, So on this time, so as Chef don't have doubt it was Crook, so French justice have Follow the vision of Casino Chef.

    I self as French, i can Say, ou'r justice is not Perfect! And in each other country the justice Law change.

    But Reverse Labby, is old, it whas invented by German Fritz
    Werntgen, with she "unlosable progression" Writing in the year 1928-1929.
    Because, Many writer we have publish story from Norman Leigh, have write, Norman, have read and test self progression, So i don't have doubt Leigh, should have read Unlosable progression writing by Fritz Wertgen, Because Werntgen was Died in year 1945, so from Master itself, it don't have Asking about he's Answer we it like receive.

    Labouchère progression, was played in the year 1900 by any English Men, But not Reverse, only the Basic.

    Read this on labby lost progression.
    So to all player we like use Labouchere original, to only win a small Gain.
    All Lost progression, to try to win again the lost Stake, all progression, you need a huge capital, to be sure to win only a small quantity of Gain.

    All Gain Progression, here the player need only a capital to can play full night or 200-400 coups, But here, the Money Capital, is Werry small, to Gain which you can win.
    Here don't forget principle of Amount of spin, and principle of 50/50% chances, so if it give a huge serie of lost, after bad weather, the sun comming Back. (French Proverb).
     
  9. asterix

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    So we're just going to Follow the Norman Leigh's book once!
    Aha, these is verry insteresant! Here Leigh explain his Gambling method, so on this year 1965, (here if the Roulette wheel was or not Biased????) But, So First, it explain From 3.Pm to 9.Pm it was first half group of 12 player which have play on all six Chance, so Red; Black; Pair; Impair; 1-18 and 19-36. The player have non favorable hand, So with Reverse Labouchère, it have -2 or -2 and +2 each spin to 6.Pm. So don't be able to win more.
    Second information, is as it explain: So here Leigh should have secure bit part of win, so as in 1928 German Werntgen with hes Unlosable progression.
    So as here:
    2-4-6-8-10, (so here we imagine it give a negative spin, so it lost once).
    2-4-6-8-10 -12-16-20-24-26-32-38-44-50-56-58-62-74-86-98....

    Because, if it don't secure, After one lose, it should restart from new 2 minimal Stake (she Gambler capital was only from 250$), so with too heigh Stake, the stake can reach over capital amount, but with secure part of wining, so divide the gain in multiple other, so after first lost, it are able to follow progression with next stake.
     
  10. asterix

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    So here now news:
    So is sure, with play on all 6 chances, so if zero coming out, it lost or half or the value.

    Here i try it with only one chance, but i self, i stake on Ecart Gambling, one time Go up, and if the Ecart ist too heavy or to Great, i play with opposite side. (But only to win 6 chips).
     
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  11. asterix

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    Ok here a view of my gambling!
    A-K = 11 virtual players, so each stake after another.
    So 10 Gamble, before "A" player coming back to stake second time.

    If "A" player have lost the first stake
    "A" will restart to stake with only 1 chips. Because 1 chips is minimal value by progression.
    See my test.
    Here on picture 2, you can see, fictif player "G" and "I" have reach his mission to win 6 chips.
    here so i would minimum, Win with another 4-7 virtual player, before i stop all, and say i have won.
     

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