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Roulette R-Sim - Giz2 - Reading Randomness Validation

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 13, 2022.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well you are a blithering idiot that doesn't even know it and I know it. I don't see any point in conversing with you. I can't believe I have been. Anyone with any sense would tell you to go jump in a lake.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm not dedicated to any specific grouping. I just play. If it is easy then I keep at it until I reach my stop win goal. If it goes tough then I bear down and grind until I make my goal.
     
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    Good, leave me alone. You have nothing to offer anyway. Reply only to those who may listen to your nonsense. I don't, so why reply to me? Actually, I don't listen to anybody. I have to prove things for myself. People lie.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Don't feed the troll
     
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    Stop win? The last bet of a winning streak should be a loss. Then leave and dont look back.
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    ND, look at the title of this thread please.
     
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    I told Mister Millionaire Marty the troll to fuck off apparently he doesn't know what that means.
     
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  9. TurboGenius

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    Figured I would put in my 2 cents even though I'll get rocks thrown at me. (not my purpose)
    A few things...

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    This is impossible with chips at a casino. That doesn't mean it works or doesn't work. It's impossible to do.
    If there was some ability to predict outcomes, it would clearly be more specific than trying to cover 15 different numbers,
    16 numbers with corner bets. That's not an impressive prediction and should win on it's own 67ish percent of the time without the
    need for a prediction because you're covering 67.5 % of the possible numbers.
    If Reading Randomness works, then you are making predictions on what's going to win. That would mean winning at a better
    rate than what the odds say. So if you bet 3 numbers and win 1 in 10 for example consistently, or 1 number and win 1 in 25..
    Covering 67.5% of the table means on average you should win that often and that's what you're doing.

    The small numbers of spins per session is great ! But then that would mean easily knocking out more than 10 sessions
    over the past 5 days when they are only 14.5 spins on average.

    If you don't mind the criticism (and hopefully you don't) - the way you place your bets doesn't look like someone
    experienced with the game at all.
    the #1 and #2 individual bets is a $7 split bet, the 10,11,12 street is one bet of $10 on the street bet location,
    the #18,#21 bets can combine to a $7 split bet, there are more - betting the corner bets and then one of the numbers
    already covered is redundant and can be eliminated. Just my thoughts - this looks like a complicated layout that isn't
    if it was done right.

    You're average win is $61.2 which is fine but is nowhere near what's needed for the 1 session that doesn't win - when that
    happens. At only 145 total spins played, there's nothing here that is out of the ordinary.
    If you look at your data/charts from the games - there is nothing showing a bit of successful "prediction".
    The highs and lows and the amounts bet to achieve a minimal profit is fine, but will it last ?
    At a few spins a day no one will ever know. If you keep with your activity level and play 2 games per day of 14 spins avg -
    It will literally be years before you could hold up the results as anything of meaning. I'm sure you know this.

    I'm also troubled by what you said in your post.
    That's fine - but it also means a cover for when it loses. When the 11th or 12th or 20th session loses and your balance
    drops back to negative, you can easily say "I did it on purpose ! I showed too much already ! I showed you 10 winners in a
    row and you don't deserve to see more !" etc - you can see how absurd that sounds.
    I hope you understand that is clearly an explanation for a failure that deflects from the reality and saves face.

    Hopefully you keep going and it keeps rising. I started a prediction demo as well, perhaps we will work our way to the top.
    I'm betting 2 numbers at most *well, 3 numbers once* and sit at +12K flat bet with no resets. - A prediction should be
    a prediction and I achieve that. covering 3/4 the table with 25x your base unit in hopes of digging out of a hole is a tricky one to keep going.
     
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  10. David Gregory

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    My thinking exactly. I noticed the same thing you stated regarding his method play. But I dared not say anything because he would just come back to me and accuse me of being a kitchen table, Marti fool, or whatever. The one thing I noticed the most regarding both Giz and Spike, is when I ask them legitimate questions about something they said that I think is total nonsense, they never answer the questions, they just come back with hand waving, shuckin' and jiving, cussing at me and then accusing me of something. They mirror politicians to a T.
     
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    The amount bet vs the amount won is also always important and mostly overlooked.

    Your game #1 - total bet was $115.00 to win $65 and that's great !
    game #2 - total bet was $159.00 to win $57, still fine.
    game #3 - total bet was $780 to win $64 - problem here.
    game #4 - total bet was $95 to win $50 - fine.
    game #5 - total bet was $220 to win $50....
    game #6 - total bet was $577 to win $53....
    game #7 - total bet was $185 to win $55 - fine.
    game #8 - total bet was $101 to win $88 - fine.
    game #9 - total bet was $74 to win $70 - almost there.
    game #10 - total bet was $604 to win $60....

    Always remember (well, anyone reading) - you want the "win" amount higher than the total bet.
    Everyone looks at the balance +$100 and that's all they need to know, it's not about that at all.
    This is overlooked or just ignored when people work on systems or methods.

    In this case $2,910.00 was bet in total in order to win $612.00
    It's not terrible and it could be a lot worse but these values are important when it comes
    to understanding why some things work and some things don't.... or what's going to happen in the future games.
    If you can get the win amount above the amount bet - then clearly there's nothing wrong with the style of
    play or the bet selection and it means you have an advantage that even a maths expert can't argue with.
    In this case though - you are betting $5 to win $1

    Just some stats that maybe you don't want or care about but there ya go anyway
     
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  12. gizmotron

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    I guess you are not a real player then. I play at busy tables on purpose. That's two minutes between spins if not longer. And I have been making bets like that for more than 30 years. Gads. This sounds lame to me. But you only bet a few numbers at a time.
     
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    I can easily cover 26 numbers and did so in my double dozens days without any problems. I actually use my brain.
     
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    Wrong again buddy. 15 or 16 numbers is less than half. It also pays a little more than half. It's a weak EC bet.
     

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    Says you, PKB
     
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    You have no idea that I use insurance bets that pay back to even if my primary bet losses and the insurance bet wins. It's called "hedging your bets." Ever heard of it? It's as old a gambling itself.
     
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    Seen it yet? I play to win.
     
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    So now you are humping for the mathBoyz? Prediction is now officially your hang up too.
     
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    That is the only question you asked where you don't already know the answer. Have another drink.
     
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    You might want to stop calling yourself a genius. I did it 50 times in a row without a loss and then blew it up on the 51st session three different times. Do you suppose that 512 is a magic disaster number for me? I was making fun of people that don't thinks 50 in a row is showing anything. You are one of those people. Your playing skills are more suspect than how I tweak skeptics. Exactly 50 wins is a row and then a total blow up betting big during a losing streak. The funny part is nobody caught on.
     

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