1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

Roulette R-Sim - Giz2 - Reading Randomness Validation

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 13, 2022.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    I hope you have unlimited popcorn because showing results where you bet $5 to win every $1 has already proven itself to have no edge whatsoever.
    In the time it took to post all those replies, 10 more rounds could been played.
    Best to stay away from the edge of the cliff and scream I guess. Enjoy the show, I already know the ending.
     
  2. topdog

    topdog Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2021
    Likes:
    24
    Occupation:
    Baron
    Location:
    Nordic Country Boy
    Math is a good tool but doesn't prove always and everything if there is a missing or spooky variable in the mix.
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    This is not just going to be fun. It's going to be a massacre.
     
    Nathan Detroit likes this.
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    Nope, you don't. Your own words are all I need to hang you on them. So what the heck, I think I will.
     
    Nathan Detroit likes this.
  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    To accommodate TurboG here for this next demonstration let's look deeper into Turbo's First Law of Balgonie. In his own words too.

    Yep, there I go. Now here you go.

    Hedging your bets: " to do things that will prevent great loss or failure if future events do not happen as one plans or hopes. They decided to hedge their bets by putting half their money in stocks and the other half in bonds."

    Now for a simple understanding of basic third grade arithmetic.

    Say it is possible to recognize a sleeping dozen or a swarm of singles in the dozens? You see patterns where the sleeping dozen or column keeps dominating all day long. In other words there aren't a lot of smaller sequences or a lot of monster sized sequences of sleeping dozens. This happens, easily identifiable by anyone first looking for a characteristic of randomness. Let's stipulate that it is your only Reading Randomness skill.

    Now if you were to use "hedging your bets" methodology, an old as the hills technique I might add, then you will see what I say next tends to render Turbo's First Law of Balgonie a prime example of his ability to impress some people.

    So if you have a sleeping dozen then you can bet say 100 units on one of the active dozens and hedge that bet with 50 units on the other active dozen. Now not to offend anyone with at least a third grade education level in Arithmetic I will concede that the two active dozens, while the third dozen sleeps, has an equal chance of hitting either one. Now if the bet with 50 units hits ( wins ) then nothing happens. It's a fifty fifty chance for that. You gain or lose nothing. That's true as long as you can target the dozen trending not to hit that is. But if the bet of 12 numbers that had 100 units on it hits then you get paid 2 to 1 and not 1 to 1. That's an EC bet that pays 2 to 1. Now assuming that you have a sleeping dozen that lasts for about ten spins in a row. You win half of them on the big bet and half of them on the lower hedged bet. The lower bets equate to nothing happening. The total bet risked was 150 units. If the bigger bet wins then you gain 150 units. So nothing happens or you get an EC valued take.

    So I forget about the nothing happening and Turbo's First Law of Balgonie. I'm just interested in the fact that I risk 150 units to gain 150 units. So maybe half the times while the third dozen sleeps I get 150 units on each spin that wins and the hedge bet covers the other bet that does not hit. But if the third dozen wakes up and I lose both bets then I lose 150 units. So it all comes down to win or lose 150 units. That's the equivalence of an EC bet. Knowing that streaks of sleeping dozens happen all the time I like to take advantage of this even though I will probably only win half the bets while it is working. So this simple math refutes Turbo's First Law of Balgonie. Here is the best part. The first time this bet loses is an indicator that the sleeping dozen has woken up. So that trick is done if you are smart and intend to use it.

    So we go to look at some of my bets at R-Sim. I use the same third grade Arithmetic to hedge my bets there. It's not as simple to see as a sleeping dozen bet but for some strange reason it too refutes Turbo's First Law of Balgonie.

    For you guys so impressed with Turbo, you might want to ask yourself why. His third grade Arithmetic is suspicious. So is "Genius" in his trade name.

    BTW, anyone ever seen a Roulette player buy in with 10 stacks of $1 chips, that's 200 chips, and get them all down on the felt before "No more bets" is announced. You see it on busy weekends at most B & M casinos once in a while. They bet bigger on some locations and lower on others without any difficulty getting them all down in time. I'm not saying this is a good idea. I'm just pointing out how knowledgeable Turbo is when it comes to what is possible and what not is possible.

    Thank you Turbo for going on the record. It was stimulating.
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2022
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    Still at 10 games. Why not do a few more ?

    Also "hedging" relates to stocks, It has nothing to do with "random". The market isn't random.

    It's like talking to a child with you sometimes.

    You claim ability and then have to cover 3/4 of the table to struggle out of a drawdown with $100+ on spins, chips all over the table. This demonstrates no ability whatsoever.

    "No more bets"

    "But I still have 70 chips to put down !!"

    Is this "clown school" or do you really believe that you have something.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    Yep, hit the nerve. Bullseye. ad hominem
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    That's just your over exaggerated image of yourself. You can't listen. So you live in a self made bubble. You see things that are clearly explained to you and you can't deal with it. I know you crave attention. But this is like embarrassing, know what I mean, (click bait) ?
     
  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    What I read from that post : "your", "yourself", "You", "you", "You", "you", "you"

    Dude ! two lines of nothing but "you".

    How about "you" go play a few rounds at RS ?
    Place 5 times the amount "your" going to win on the table and then pretend you know how to win.

    All this nonsense and scared to play rounds and show it.
    I think it's time for the angry reset - we aren't worthy of your ability to win using insane betting amounts
    on 3/4 of the table.
    lol - never mind, off to enjoy the day. I played my rounds. I can't wait for you to catch up, could be years.

    index.png
     
  10. topdog

    topdog Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2021
    Likes:
    24
    Occupation:
    Baron
    Location:
    Nordic Country Boy
    popcorn.png
     
    gizmotron likes this.
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    Malignant Narcissist, control freak, can't handle disagreement. That adds up, perhaps.

    Thanks for that. It's TurboG's Second Law of Baloney.

    TurboGenius = clickbait... Boolean Operator -- True
     
  12. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    No commandments here please. This is not your command post. What are we on these days. You have provided more than 500 systems and all you ever got was attention and people ticked off at you for never validating even one of them. And now you are doing this again. clickbait
     
  13. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    Ego tripping, highly important person, best looking self image since an LSD dream.


    man are you hooked...
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2022
  14. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    Yeah. Sort of like the time I was nice and showed you this demo -
    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/user/14c4f36143b4b09cbc320d7c95a50ee7

    untitled.png

    almost 700 spins and 3x bankroll made using simple, easy bets.

    But that's just me thinking about my important self lol.

    How is that everything you post can be debunked immediately ? It's almost as if you're in a fantasy world or something.
    Is reality too complex ?

    Or this one ?
    untitled2.png

    So there's the 3 that you say you tanked "on purpose" and 14 other failed attempts and this one was doing ok
    but like usual - can't push it too far. 10-12 games is safe I guess. When it fails you can reset again and say
    you did it on purpose, like the other 17 times you failed and reset... but those were on purpose too.

    What a clown. But hey, do what works for you. The inexperienced people who haven't been in a casino and only
    read your claims of being able to read random will still be impressed I assume.

    Like being at a "crowded" table sitting probably around the 2nd dozen spot with people on each side of you.....
    The last spin is paid out and people start to put chips down.
    Sure, if you've never been in a casino your story is believable.
    But no. To everyone else - we know all those people are reaching all over the table placing bets..
    You're supposedly reaching as well, putting all those 70 chips down - reaching over people's arms, putting chips on
    theirs and keeping track - sure it's easy LOL. Plenty of time to put down that big pile of chips all over the table in your
    specific locations. You hear "no more bets" and you still have plenty of time I'm sure..... lol

    Whatever fantasy world that is, enjoy it. Maybe come back when you've actually been in a casino at a "crowded table"
    and explain how you had no problem doing that.

    People aren't stupid Gizmotron - sure the people who don't know any better will believe you, they'll learn on their
    own I suppose. To assume the rest of us are that ignorant to how things work is insulting. But hey, it's what you do best.
     

  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    I'm not even going to read your post. I failed some 14 times in a row like a complete imbecile just so that you would use it on me. Now I didn't expect it to be you, but anyone. Sucker. You are harpooned. You don't get anything. I have been baiting failure for more than 16 years because I knew that people I dislike immensely would bite on it. You are the prize winner. Your opinion is impeached. Try to get over yourself unless you have another law of baloney to share. Crash test dummy. That is your clear claim to fame.
     
  16. mansi19896

    mansi19896 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2018
    Likes:
    49
    Location:
    kalimba
    made your life complicated with yesterdays session. After 14 there was exactly that pattern you like to use and have been mentioned even in here, but did not take these 2 active dozens. could have ride nice 4 winning streak, why chose other wise and evantually still taking third dozen instead of most active
     
  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    Not sure why anything. I made a choice, lived with it and won my session.
     
  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    Lost on purpose

    Lol. You're too much.
    Waiting for you to lose on purpose with this one too.

    "I meant to do that" lol. Clown
     
    TwoUp likes this.
  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    index.png

    lol, cracking myself up.
     
    TwoUp and David Gregory like this.
  20. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2015
    Likes:
    3,040
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    The West Coast of USA, RV'ing
    OK. You are on the record with all your integrity.

    You don't know that a lot of people can get 200 chips down, all over the layout, in time. I know they can and I can.

    You don't know that anyone can hedge their bets in Roulette as well as a few other bets. Try horse racing for instant. I hedge bets buying trifectas. Know what I mean?

    You have no idea what my bets represent. But that does not stop you from assuming what I'm doing.

    Your ego is harpooned and you are jealous of this. I stayed with one concept from the beginning. You jump to a new system like a slut when the fleet is in.

    I'm not concerned what it would take to make you happy.

    You are nothing but clickbait and have never proven otherwise.

    Is that enough "you's?"
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2022

Share This Page