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Roulette Ramblings of the Inept for the Misfits

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. daveylibra

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    Turbo, once again you have written an intriguing post. But I wonder, how can you have a better way of picking the sets than random.org when you are using random to win?
    Also, I note that another horse is one step away before you complete the win. Set 6, the number 31 comes up early leaving only number 9. Surely we then we need a unit on 9 also?
    Look forward to your reply if you have time to do so.
     
  2. Ka2

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    I dont expect turbo to show his way of play. But thats beside the point. He continually shows examples of phenomenoms (at least he thinks they are) that can be exploited or are peculiar.

    But none of them are any different than using random numbers/streams. I showed that via programming in excel.

    In none of the cases he responded. Now why is that you think...
     
  3. Ka2

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    Good one set 6 needed to be bet as well because it was 1 away...
     
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  4. Bombus

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    Oh, I don't know...maybe because you're an arsehole who's only posting to stir people up for your own entertainment?
     
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  5. Ka2

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    Hurts doesnt it.. finding out everything you select is the same as random...
     
  6. Bombus

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    You might find it less hurtful if you stretch it with a butt plug first.
     
  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It was not 1 away, #9 or #31 would have had to appear before play began, there are 2 numbers
    there that hadn't appeared. Please pay attention before you reply - so eager to prove something wrong and
    only making yourself look foolish.
    Set 9 was qualified - the "lead horse" and that's why it's being bet on (as explained).
    There's no need at that point to have any concern for Set 6, regardless of what happens in future spins.
    Once a number is being bet on - an entire new game begins with new sets of 7 numbers.
    You can qualify another horse now based on the new sets and whichever one is a step away from winning.
    As I said, I played between 1 and 4 numbers at a time and every single bet won at or sooner than expected according to the math.
    I'd suggest if you've tested it (improperly) and found it of no value - then there is nothing to add to the conversation. Perhaps you'll run a test and do it properly.
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm sure that most people will try various ways to make sets and will see which one works best.
    Length of sets of numbers and how they are chosen - the right combination will be obvious when found.
     
  9. Turkish

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    Hahah I wish it was obvious to me but unfortunately it isn’t! I do like the idea though

    It’s different from tracking for example numbers that have hit 5 times and are betting that it would be the first to come a 6th time. Because that number could instantly become cold. It has happened to me before. Other numbers caught up and I ended up having to bet 11 numbers all stuck on 5 hits!
     
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  10. Ka2

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    It was totally not clear that after the set with 1 step remaining was established. The others sets dont count anymore!

    For fun i'll adjust the test, but we all know what the results will be.
     
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  11. Benas

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    Not need to see the way, enough to understand math. This game is such, that if not know in concrete spin, which number have bigger chance to hit - winning is not possible
    Firstly in every spin are in average 14-15 positive numbers. If you know which are which - you have a chance to win, if not - no way...Even if you bet from them - still are no logic to bet 1 and not bet say 10 others. From here is very clear that you even not know which numbers are positive which no...
    All what you say is the same like to say that you better hit to aim from the gun, because you that do with covered eyes. Covered eyes did not give an advantage ...
     
  12. Naughty but nice

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    The lead horse appeared at spin 28, wins first spin. There are 2 more close, of which one now is the leader, win on #35
    Too early to say
     
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    72 spins! If we look at potential runners, 3 have not even had a run.
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    So the second race of the day, the lead horse won. Now we have horse number 2 not far behind

    Is it worth seeing if it will cross the line or would a runner behind start to enter the betting, using more of the bank roll.

    Got to like Turbo riddles
     
  14. TurboGenius

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    Oh no !
    I'll immediately return all money won from each casino.
    It's going to take a while to give it all back (and the proper amounts to the proper places)
    I had NO idea that winning was not possible - lucky for me though now I know this knowledge and won't
    spend any more time accidently winning every time I play.
    I'll put a apology along with each payment "Sorry, I didn't know math"
    I hope this makes it all better and I can start all over again losing the proper way - and preaching
    to others on forums about how you can't win at this game.

    lol.
    Not.
     

  15. Ka2

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    So test completed, waiting for first horse to become 9 then wait until it becomes 10 or stop when another horse beats it to 10. Those were rules right?

    1000 plays later (not spins)

    Hit rate on average 1:37

    here is a small example: In all honestly I did not cherry pick!

    19
    14 w
    16 w
    8 w
    8
    46
    3 w
    6 w
    17 w
    19 w
    20
    18 w
    5 w
    59
    29 w
    29 w
    40
    12 w
    35
    16 w
    28 w
    34
    14 w
    13
    4
    28
    7
    3 w
    23 w
    10
    16 w
    39
    3 w
    29
    9
    11 w
    14
    4 w
    17
    29
    1 w
    16 w
    59 w
    52
    34
    3 w
    27 w
    1 w
    27 w
    14
    20 w
    35 w
    25 w
    13 w
    17
    19
    40
    13 w
    8
    32
    11 w
    7
    27 w
    13
    41
    11
    15
    12
    1 w
    8 w
    38
    2 w
    9 w
    32
    23
    5 w
    29 w
    7 w
    18 w
    14
    9
    22
    18
    28 w
    7
    21
    54
    15
    14 w
    16 w
    21
    23
    9 w
    9 w
    59 w
    35
    10
    17
    21 w
    13
    13 w
    18
    39 w
    2 w
    23
    49 w
    84
    11 w
    16 w
    9
    19 w
    23
    37
    25 w
    20 w
    25 w
    14 w
    12 w
    7 w
    12
    11
    1 w
    37
    16
    22
    22
    14 w
    23
    31 w
    2 w
    5 w
    1 w
    17
    19
    2 w
    52 w
    4 w
    29 w
    13 w
    8 w
    14
    5 w
    22 w
    16 w
    8
    4
    12
    30 w
    12 w
    47
    9
    32 w

    152 PLAYS 81 WON 71 LOST

    Total Lost -2952 Total won 2916 Final score -36...

    NOW HOW HAS THIS CHANGED THE MATH?
     
  16. Smitridel

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    Ok like it wasnt enough Turbo's ways of playing (which involves some kind of figuring out since as he said is not random) how did both testers get their results?
    From which sets did you pick the numbers?
    And more specifically how did you guys create the sets? (Unique, Repeats?)

    Btw mr Turbo Im a fan.
    Not as much as your methods (since I've read all of them at past site and forums and havent figured out the holy grailish one) but your way of describing things always keeping something in a shroud of mystery.
    It fascinates as much as it frustrates me :D
     
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  17. Benas

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    What you write in forums is simply what you wrote. You can write that you are 3-meter hight, you can write that you can lift 300kg etc and etc/
    That is a forum and you use it for something.
    You post charts which are net reals and you think that you are smart. Maybe - yes, are peoples who want to believe, but that will pass. These peoples who believe you, have nothing from that believing !!!
    Peoples will not believe in your fairy teils forever, sooner or later will come moment when most of them will say - enough claims - show at least something real :)
     
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  18. Ka2

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    The WHOLE POINT of this thread is that in all the EXAMPLES turbo gave, he is talking that these EXAMPLES change the math of the game. I clearly show by programming it in excel that it is not different than CHOOSING RANDOM numbers.

    I picked the sets from random.org just as the example
     
  19. Jefra

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    Ka2;
    You cannot compare your tests with Turbo's ways of playing IF you have no idea how he plays.

    It looks to me that almost NOONE understand his ways (yes ways) because concept is same and variants can be different. For one guy I was sure that he comprehended it, but now looks that not.
     
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    @turbo

    In last your variant you played from 1 to 4 numbers, but what confused me was your point 3 in which you mentioned that you WON on all played numbers. This variant seem to me a bit dangerous, because what if one of played numbers would not come out for long period. Maybe this is not a case on real tables, but on electronic machines (or RNG) can happen that hot numbers can suddenly become very cold and in this case you would start to hunting "cold" number.
     

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