Roulette Random explained - somewhat

For those interested - there is a AP sub-forum in this very forum ! You can discuss AP
all day - make millions of posts and discuss why AP is the way to play.
https://www.gamblingforums.com/forums/advantage-play-roulette.39/

There hasn't been a single post there in well over A YEAR.
Why is that ? Why does the magical answer to winning against roulette have no activity whatsoever, yet my threads have thousands of views and comments ? Think on that one.
And you can't answer that it's "super secret" and you "can't post stuff like that in public" because that is EXACTLY what you are expecting ME to do. Let's not be hypocrites, we all know why the "anti-system" people follow threads about systems - it's not because "their way" works.

 

Im basing most of my current methods on what Turbo(and others) have been posting regards repeats. Ive won more than ive lost over the last year or so and this was not the case before that. Will this continue? i hope so. Has my roulette gambling improved because of this? Yes i think so! Does Turbos postings frustrate me sometimes? Yes but its made me work harder and improve my bets!
My latest is a two number bet that only uses part of the table and again its going great and before anyone says why am i constantly using new methods its because im always trying to improve them(or get them to the way i like/am comfortable playing) while also working on my main one(based on turbos graphs) which is still going great but yes i wont lie i do worry it may have the potential to lose big but so far has recovered!

 

Everything is a learning process - and there are so many tools a player can use to test their ideas if they don't want to risk actual $ in a casino. That makes it nice and safe.
When a bad event happens, you have to know why it happened - then you can see how to avoid that from happening again. It's all a learning process - and can cost nothing until a person is ready to take it to a casino and try.

 

So what? Does this change anything? Do the other non potential winning numbers get frustrated by your arbitrary selection and go away? Do the rest of the numbers say "hey we should wait and see which one of TG numbers will hit next"? Just because you decide to focus on certain numbers does not improve your odds in any way.
What if I'm only betting on number 17? Then the only potential winning number for me is that single number. What are my odds in this case? 1:1? Does this improve my odds in any way?

 

What would you recommend?

 

These 3 sentences sums it up for me.

Some people are focusing and emphasizing only to what they want to see, it's vanity attempting to convince them otherwise because they have already learned all they could and there's nothing more (according their perspective) to be learned.
The real lessons begin when schools end, it's called life.

''As long as I'm living I keep on learning'' Plato

 

For testing ? I always use RX - it's simple to learn and you can import real spins or rng. Something that works will work against either of them.

 

Actually, it does.
Because 37 or 38 different numbers won't appear in 37 or 38 spins.

If you can tell me that there are going to be repeats in a cycle of spins -
and then tell me (knowing that simple fact) that you have NO IDEA what numbers are potential winners - that it's only numbers that have shown once and not the numbers that have shown 0 times.... then I or no one else can possible help you to understand that.

 

Yes thats great thanks but any other recommendations always welcome especially in the improve method area

 

I can tell you there are going to be non repeats too. Hello!
Your repeats have a probability of appearing relative to their number. If you bet 5 repeats you have 5/37 probability, if you bet 10 you have 10/37, if you bet 3 then 3/37, there is no magic formula that can increase the probability of your bet selection. Sorry to talk with actual numbers and probabilities. Let's keep it vague - randomness, Plato and the Caribbean...

 

1 number has 24/37 for single 0 or 24/38 for 00 roulette probability to hit at least once.
Let's say I randomly pick the last number, as the total of uniques grows the possibility for repeats grows too.
Approximately on 26th spin there will be 19 uniques which means that this group, from this point on, will get more hits than the 18 non hit numbers.
That's why it makes sense to change my number if t hasn't hit yet and replace it with a number which has already 1 hit at that point (26th spin) up to and including the 37th or 38th spin.
If by the end of the cycle I've not won, I'd never chase the same number any further, but change to another, preferably the last spun with the same process as described above.

There are 2 progressions which can provide profit with the average expectation (65%) or below average expectation (50%) over the medium to long term.
You should expect 50% prediction accuracy or better in no less than 1369 (37*37) qualified bets!
So as long as you endure and keep going with the medium to long term profit perspective you'll always be on top by the end.

 

Turbo on one hand you act like a pariah and answer questions elaborately and on the other hand you don't want to answer the question that you know the answer to and will make your method not work.

There are people who will follow you and you can satisfy your ego and you can cry foul. It is best this thread is left alone. Cheers there.

 

Yes, Toofan - it's all about my ego - nothing else. lolol

 

If not why do you refuse to answer a simple question.

 

"A simple question typically has a simple answer - one that can be answered without having to ask it"

(c)2017 TurboGenius

 

You're welcome to believe that the criticism is an attempt to goad you into "spilling the beans". That's not my motivation. I can't speak for others though, perhaps they're hoping you will, but it's certainly not my expectation. You like the term "anti-system" it seems, but I'm not anti-system; systems are great fun to use, they just don't work in the long term. You also seem to think being "anti-system" stands in for some kind of argument as to why systems don't work, but it doesn't. There are very good logical reasons, which really just amount to common sense, why systems don't work, so it's not really a case of me or the other critics "not understanding" what you're talking about, as you keep insisting. You really don't have to be very bright to understand why they can't, if it's exlained clearly enough. And of course there's the hundreds of years of overwhelming empirical evidence that systems don't work.

The reason why the AP section is dead and the system section thriving is partly because yes, Advantage players don't want to give this kind of information away on public forums. The evidence is all around you in casinos: what attempts do they make to thwart or discourage system players? None. Some even helpfully provide lists of the hot and cold numbers to save us writing them down. Ain't that kind of them? and we all know how much casinos really want us to win, lol.

On the other hand, the casinos are engaged in a continuous cat and mouse game against those players who know how to get a REAL edge. Over the years they have made many changes to wheels and procedures, even changed the whole fundamental design, to counter the VB experts. The latest innovation is RRS. See here:

http://www.cammegh.com/product.php?product=mercury360rrs

Casinos are also investing in ever more sophisticated monitoring technology in order to keep ahead of the AP.

http://www.cammegh.com/product.php?product=pitboss&tabs=0-0-1-0-0

With all that, you might be tempted to dismiss AP as a thing of the past, but you would be wrong. Why on earth would anyone who works on methods to detect vulnerabilities want to share their findings on public forums?

System players, however, are looking for a quick fix. Not for the them the tedious scouting for wheels and the right conditions, the recording of data, and having to learn the higher level math needed to apply the techniques. Forget that! just give me nice progression and some pattern to follow! The only thing you have to sacrifice is your critical faculty, lol. The apparently "authoritative" system "experts" such as yourself will always be popular because they're offering a dream; what's not to like?

 

I couldn't agree with you more (I knew we could agree on something lol). Everything in place at the table that seems to be there to "aid" the player is nonsense and any system or method should avoid these because of the obvious reasons - these are here to make people who don't know any better lose even more money than they typically would.
Past spins are useless - hot/cold numbers from the past are useless, etc etc. They put those reader boards there to trick people, the same people who think they are there to help them win. It's a mess.
Present hot numbers and future ones are the only way to win - the session we are currently playing, nothing from the past matters at all. When more people understand this, more people can devise ways to win.

 

Good luck Turbogenius.

 

Thanks. I would never base my success on luck though, it doesn't exits. There are only winning ways and losing ways.
The house doesn't rely on luck to win over the masses of people that play, they rely on math and their "edge" due to mismatched payout vs odds of any bet winning. Turning that into my favor doesn't use luck either, just the same math.

 

God bless the RRS. It's the best thing since swiss cheese! I love that thing and for some good reasons!